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Vista, XP, or Other?

Author:  Carey [ Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:49 pm ]
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Which Window OS do you like the most hate the least?

Author:  Nick [ Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:58 pm ]
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I'd make a hate the most topic but the only entry would be ME

Author:  michaelp [ Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:00 pm ]
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XP. Never tried Vista, but it sounds pretty bad. And I tried Linux, and I don't really like it.

Author:  Nick [ Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:01 pm ]
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only Windows is in question

Author:  lordroba [ Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:26 pm ]
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personally, i like vista more than xp. My laptop has 2GB of ram, so I have no issues with it...

Author:  apomb [ Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:40 pm ]
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I dont understand the purpose of these threads... it never produces any insightful results, people rarely have anything intelligent to contribute let alone get anything from them.

Author:  stde [ Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:11 pm ]
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I love them all! haha

Author:  ericfourfour [ Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:22 pm ]
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I prefer Windows XP because it's the only one I use on a regular basis.

I've tried Vista a few times. My Mom's computer uses it. Some things were switched around, like add/remove programs. Nothing a google search couldn't solve. I use it only to print stuff every once in a while. The only problem I have with it is it can't boot with my jump drive plugged in, but that probably has more to do with the bios.

Author:  agnivohneb [ Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:15 pm ]
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Those vista Issues are a Lie. I only had one problem with my computer since I got my computer and it's not even OS related. bad update for wireless DLink driver.

Author:  Mackie [ Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:18 pm ]
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So, because you didn't experience them they can't be true.

Author:  andrew. [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:07 am ]
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My favourite is Linux, then XP, the Vista.

Author:  DaveAngus [ Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:13 pm ]
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Macs are the way to go. so no XP or Vista!
haha

Author:  Mackie [ Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:18 pm ]
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Mac's are bulky hard to use, locked down, awkward, inflexible, bad UI, I could go on. It's a horrible operating system, they should stick to hardware and go with Linux or something better then the garbage they shovel out.

Author:  DaveAngus [ Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:23 pm ]
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Ok if there so garb....then why is it that your PC can get full of viruses in about 10 seconds and theres not one known virus for the mac...
And macs are flexible just not user friendly. You have to know it inside and out (which is a downside). Also, Im into audio production. Anything in the audio/graphics field work real well with macs.
If your into programming or just everyday surfing, PC's work better.
Theres ups and downs to both.
You just have to know how to work your system.
Right now I use a mac at my school (actually 4 macs to be honnest) and I use them for Protools (industry standard for recording). The digi002 board and any recording hardware works so much better on mac.
So its totally preference.
Arguing about whats better is pointless.
Its preference and whatever your field of choice is.
-Dave

Author:  Dan [ Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:09 pm ]
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Windows 3.1 all the way, it uses less ram and cpu then vista and xp combined and the graphics card requrments are way lower!

Also the inverterface is admazing with all thos lovely windows that are just so easy to move around and mupliate. And who can't love thos retro icon sets and the qbasics monkeys and nibbels games?

The impovements are just so great over windows 3, who could not love 3.1? This hole real OS thing is just so overated in xp and vista! Who needs a real OS when you can just have a desktop evniorment over DOS?

Author:  [Gandalf] [ Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:21 pm ]
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Dan @ 2008-04-09, 7:09 pm wrote:
monkeys

It was Gorillas! Great game, too. Smile

Author:  btiffin [ Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:33 pm ]
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Haven't read the whole thread, so excuse me if this is redundant.

I used to be an MS fanboy. Lined up to get DOS 5. It was the day I first heard the expression "Herd of Nerds". The Big White Boxes (VB 1, VC 1) were awesome. 40 pounds of slick and cool.

Then, while Win 3.1 was the current thing, OS/2 was being released. MS did an "ad" campaign. Wait for Chicago...Wait for Chicago. So no developers or hardware manufacturers produced drivers for OS/2. Well, we waited 4 (FOUR!) years before Windows/95 came out. OS/2 was, by then, gutted. OS/2 Warp was a wicked operating system. Had it blossomed, I'm of the opinion that we would already have "natural interface" and would be talking to our computers instead of getting Carpal Tunnel from mouse usage. So from that day forward I haven't spent a nickel on MS, other than what comes bundled with second hand machines (some "non-genuine", but I'm not going to rat out refurbished hardware stores and those copies are easy enough to GRUB over) and a recent deal for two duo-core HP boxes. I already had Coherent back then, so the move to Linux was easy. It sucked for hardware support, until recently, but it did everything a developer would ever want to do and then some. I was a Slacky for a while, but I've been a Debian for a lot of years now. 7, I think. And by the way. Debian 4, ROCKS. But back to MS and what I see as "suffer no other software to live" mentality. I don't like it.

So, the HP machines came with Vista. I got them home, turned off shadowing, repartioned and installed Etch. I gave Vista 20 gigs of the big fat drive, the rest was for me. Anyway, an early alpha of REBOL 3 came out and it needed Vista testing. Rasafrassa, I boot the machine (with the GRUB) into Vista. Eh, Areo's not bad ... pretty. It's not Beryl or MacOS, but it's pretty. Worthy of some play.

I setup a user account leaving UAC intact. Start to get busy. 3am, I had turned to work on another node and I see a "Vista will shutdown for updates in ... I had 12 seconds left when I noticed. Vista in user mode, greys out the "Postpone" button so I was stuck, I didn't have time to invoke an admin login, the machine rebooted to install updates. Vista ... 6 thousand million dollars of development and it didn't even bother to check that my MBR is set to boot Etch. Clowns. And I know MS hires people that have this stuff down cold. It goes back to my reasoning with the death of OS/2. Some business practices of MS rub me the wrong way.

But ... Windows (all versions - Vista will catch up quickly) have many 100s of millions of person hours worth of software, tweaks, knowledge base ... so for most people it makes a "better" OS. As a nerd I prefer GNU/Linux, but is has what?, person hours counted in millions. Fractional percentage points of hours. Amongst those billions of Windows hours are crackers. So yeah, there are a boatload more viruses, malware and other nasties. For every (say a 1000 to 1) thousand Windows cracks, there is potential for a few OS/X, and (probably more by ratio) GNU/Linux, UNIX, AS/400, Big Iron, cracks. Is not really that GNU/Linux or FreeBSD (OS/X) can't be cracked, it is just the odds of someone cracking and any particular individual being effected is orders of magnitude less than a Windows user. Install a Debian system, turn on sshd, unfirewall port 22, host a web server and wait. If you have not made mods to /etc/ssh/sshd_config, well, someone will brute force hack your root password and well, your pwned.

And all this to get to ...

I voted XP as it has 5 years times billions of person hours behind it, pretty usable. Dislike less. Smile

Sooner, rather than later, Vista will be in the same position. And Open Source will either flourish along current trend lines or a lawyer will put paid to the whole deal and make it distasteful enough that we turn back to commercial and proprietary. Either way, we will still have good coders, a colourful vibrant web experience and "fun" using the computer. I hope it stays free.

Please excuse the ramble post on a vote page. If you have to setup your grandma with a machine, you can't really go wrong with Windows XP or Vista or 98 for that matter. And during the odd visit, be a good grandson and do a ClamWin pass for her. If you have to setup a machine to use for CompSci at university, well ... Go Windows and be able to play games and learn apps, or go GNU/Linux and learn computing... in my humble opinion. Or best, dual-boot GRUB with Vista (you usually have to pay for it anyway) and a Distro. Games AND Education, sweet.

again, sorry for the ramble. everything not in bold can be ignored.
Cheers

Author:  A.J [ Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:37 pm ]
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XP ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!

Author:  haskell [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:42 am ]
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The Cathderal and the Bazaar is a good read about why Microsoft can be beaten by a bunch of random people.

Anyways, Windows95 would be the best Windows. Why? Because iit had so much potential... But of course, they screwed it up and made 98, 2000, and ME. XP was okay, and now Vista is just... Hack it, or it's crap.

Author:  Eikre [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:43 am ]
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I personally still use XP. It plays my games, and it doesn't crash half the time, with or without me modding it...

...unless I'm trying to play english versions of asian games, but that's beside the point.

Author:  btiffin [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:22 am ]
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haskell @ Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:42 am wrote:
The Cathderal and the Bazaar is a good read about why Microsoft can be beaten by a bunch of random people.


Eric Raymond is a definite must read for Open Source fans. The whole Halloween Document leak is worth knowing about. Smile

I'm not worried about developers wanting to produce and share good code; I worry about some lawyer figuring out some sneaky way of scaring people away with FUD. The whole SCO tactic is still being pursued, now with "we won't sue you agreements" being signed by some of the smaller distros.

I was almost a fan of NT (it involved Dave Cutler from DEC - OpenVMS is a rock solid OS) but it all comes back to OS/2. NT was supposed to be OS/2 3.0 but the choking had already started by then so instead of leaps and bounds better, it was "just another Windows".

Here I go, clogging up the Vote page again
Cheers

Author:  gitoxa [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:31 pm ]
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Dan wrote:
Windows 3.1 all the way, it uses less ram and cpu then vista and xp combined


Why did I laugh...
*sigh*

Author:  Nyrd [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:39 pm ]
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[quote="[Gandalf] @ Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:21 pm"]
Dan @ 2008-04-09, 7:09 pm wrote:
monkeys

It was Gorillas! Great game, too. Smile[/quote]

I loved the way that you could break holes through the entire building and not have it fall. Very Happy
That made my 5 year old life worth living Very Happy

Author:  r691175002 [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:46 pm ]
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I currently use XP. I used to double boot Ubuntu on my old computer, however linux fails to detect any of my monitors/video cards and I can't get it working (And oh, I have tried), so that cuts off that option. From what I have seen of vista, it isn't nearly as bad as some people like to claim (However that is never surprising) and I won't hesitate to upgrade if I ever feel like reformatting in the summer.

Author:  Carey [ Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:31 pm ]
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Hmmmmmm....me being stupid and having no foresight forgot to put macs on there. or linux for that matter


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