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Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
Author:  rdrake [ Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:23 am ]
Post subject:  Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
As I'm sure many of you know, Feisty Fawn was released today. You can download the images from a mirror here. Alternatively I'll provide steps below for upgrading. Apparently this release shows improved support for wireless and is even easier to use than previous versions.

From the Ubuntu site:

  1. Go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources. If you have a previous version of Ubuntu installed, you should upgrade to each newest version in turn, following the upgrade notes for each newer version.
  2. Click "Check"
  3. Click "Install Updates"
  4. Wait for the process to complete
  5. Click"Close"
  6. Start Update Manager again to begin the upgrade to 7.04


Real men do it this way:

  1. $ sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
  2. Replace all occurences of "edgy" with "feisty".
  3. Save the file.
  4. $ sudo apt-get update
  5. $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
  6. Reboot.

Of course some of the steps above can be done with your editor of choice or even a simple command, but still.

Ship-It CDs are also available to those with crappy connections, though you can expect about a 10 week wait for them to arrive.

Anybody with Feisty running have any comments? Aside from Clayton who seems to have messed up his laptop of course.
Author:  Mazer [ Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:28 am ]
Post subject:  RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
I'm not a big fan of the dist-upgrade approach. I've heard of people getting screwed over by it before, and I like clean (mostly clean, I keep most of my settings) installs anyways. Not to mention I've been getting weak ass download speeds from the repositories lately.

I'll probably go ahead and try Gentoo again on my laptop once I'm done with finals.
Author:  rdrake [ Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
Mazer @ Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:28 am wrote:
I'm not a big fan of the dist-upgrade approach. I've heard of people getting screwed over by it before, and I like clean (mostly clean, I keep most of my settings) installs anyways. Not to mention I've been getting weak ass download speeds from the repositories lately.
Only reason they get screwed is because they don't change all occurances like instructed. Hell, I've done a dist-upgrade from Debian 3.1 to Ubuntu 6.10... albeit it did not go so smoothly Razz. Since it was just released, I'm sure many of the mirrors are overloaded.

Mazer @ Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:28 am wrote:
I'll probably go ahead and try Gentoo again on my laptop once I'm done with finals.
I'll help you with that... just make sure I'm around when you begin the install.
Author:  Mazer [ Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:21 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
If you want to SSH in and do the whole install yourself I'd be totally cool with that.
Author:  Clayton [ Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
rdrake wrote:

Anybody with Feisty running have any comments? Aside from Clayton who seems to have messed up his laptop of course.


It was not me! Honest! Other than the issues we talked about though, I haven't really had any problems at all with Feisty. It works wonders with my wireless card, which I've had problems with all other releases. And it just seems a little bit easier to use than previous releases of Ubuntu.

rdrake wrote:
Ship-It CDs are also available to those with crappy connections, though you can expect about a 10 week wait for them to arrive.


Already ordered 15 for the CS club here (albeit it's very small). Smile

EDIT: If you want, you could SSH into my machine too and install Gentoo for me Razz It didn't go so well last night Wink
Author:  Null [ Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:22 am ]
Post subject:  RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
I'm a big fan of Arch Linux lately, but it's not for everyone. Ubuntu is a fantastic mainstream Linux. Smile
Author:  neufelni [ Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
I installed Feisty yesterday and I'm impressed with it. Until now I was stuck using Windows because I couldn't get my wireless network running on any distro of Linux. But with Feisty, it was detected instantly on first startup without me having to do anything. Very Happy one problem I found with it though is that the desktop effects don't work. When I turn them on my entire screen just goes white, a problem that many other people are having.
Author:  Clayton [ Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:37 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
Yes, wireless worked seamlessly for me too under Feisty. The Desktop Effects weren't working for you you say? Funny, seeing as they worked fine for me. What are your system specs?
Author:  neufelni [ Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:40 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
My specs should be plenty good enough. 1GB Ram, Pentium 4 2.4 GHz processor. Judging by this I'd say the problem is my ATI graphics card.
Author:  ericfourfour [ Sun May 06, 2007 12:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
I just installed this OS a few days ago. I also installed Windows a few months ago.. The only thing easier about the Windows install, was setting up my sound card.

With Windows, I had to go on my computer manufacturers website and find my computer to get specific drivers for my video card and keyboard. To install my sound card and usb wireless adaptor, I had to install the drivers from the cd.

With Ubuntu, the video card, keyboard, and wireless adaptor were working to their full potential immediately. The sound card was and still is a pain the ass (sound comes out, just not through all channels).

I'm going to say, installing Ubuntu was definitely easier than Windows. The Ubuntu install process was visual and interactive, and it set up my hardware and peripherals automatically.

If I were to bash Ubuntu, I would say... hmm... oh! Why can't the synaptic installer thing download the NetBeans file for me. It gives me instructions on how to do it (exact links and everything), but why can't it just do it. The instructions are right there!!! Mad

Desktop effects doesn't work for me either. It is just a blank white screen. I also have and ATI card, but it is a built-in piece of crap.
Author:  rdrake [ Sun May 06, 2007 12:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
ericfourfour @ Sun May 06, 2007 12:23 am wrote:
If I were to bash Ubuntu, I would say... hmm... oh! Why can't the synaptic installer thing download the NetBeans file for me. It gives me instructions on how to do it (exact links and everything), but why can't it just do it. The instructions are right there!!! Mad
Sometimes companies don't let their packages be installed automatically. In the case of Gentoo, some ebuilds require you to copy over the package sources into a certain directory before it will install it.

ericfourfour @ Sun May 06, 2007 12:23 am wrote:
Desktop effects doesn't work for me either. It is just a blank white screen. I also have and ATI card, but it is a built-in piece of crap.
There's your problem. ATI has horrible drivers for everything, especially Linux.
Author:  Andy [ Sun May 06, 2007 9:34 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
right.. thats why they're about 30% more stable than NVIDIA ones.
Author:  Mazer [ Sun May 06, 2007 10:37 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
I think the name of the game here is Linux support.
Author:  Andy [ Sun May 06, 2007 10:41 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
no, the "especially linux" part was for linux, the "ATI has horrible drivers for everything" was pretty generic to me.
Author:  rdrake [ Sun May 06, 2007 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
Andy @ Sun May 06, 2007 10:41 pm wrote:
no, the "especially linux" part was for linux, the "ATI has horrible drivers for everything" was pretty generic to me.
Qualitative observation on my part. The Linux support is a huge problem, though.
Author:  Andy [ Sun May 06, 2007 10:51 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
agreed. nvidia did however had a huge headstart on theirs.
Author:  Mazer [ Sun May 06, 2007 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
Before I go and forget, has anyone received Feisty CDs yet? Probably a long shot, but I"m curious.
Author:  Clayton [ Mon May 07, 2007 1:20 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
I have a feeling I'll be getting mine very soon. I ordered mine very soon after they came out, with a special order that was processed and sent the next day.

ShipIt Order wrote:

- 17 CDs requested on 2007-04-13. 17 CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company on 2007-04-14. Please note requests usually take from 4 to 6 weeks to deliver, depending on the country of shipping.
Very Happy
Author:  ericfourfour [ Mon May 07, 2007 2:17 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
What's the difference between the shipped CD's and the downloaded CD images?
Author:  rdrake [ Mon May 07, 2007 3:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
ericfourfour @ Mon May 07, 2007 2:17 pm wrote:
What's the difference between the shipped CD's and the downloaded CD images?
Nothing, except the shipped CDs take a while to get and have a pretty case and are stamped.

The following is how the Dapper CDs looked. They're great if you want to give them away, plus you get stickers Smile.
Author:  Clayton [ Tue May 08, 2007 4:04 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
Bonus! I just got my 17 Feisty CDs today! Very Happy For anyone wondering, they look just like the Dapper CDs, just replace all instances of 6.04 with 7.04 Wink
Author:  Mazer [ Tue May 08, 2007 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
Clayton @ Tue May 08, 2007 4:04 pm wrote:
Bonus! I just got my 17 Feisty CDs today! Very Happy For anyone wondering, they look just like the Dapper CDs, just replace all instances of 6.04 with 7.04 Wink

So you're saying that they didn't go with my idea of a half-naked chick flying on a dragon?
Author:  Clayton [ Tue May 08, 2007 5:26 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) Released
Nah, I think they disposed of that idea for obvious reasons. However, you could always create your own labels and put them on some self-burnt CDs.

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