G4TechTV ... would be even more my favourite if it were strictly G4, not this overlay of canadian programming for Bell Expressview crap. That and Discovery (Channels 515 and 520 respectively)

Does bittorrent count as a channel?

I don't have cable or a satelite so I don't watch a TV, I don't even know if the tv in my room works.

How do you think the people of thousands of years ago got along? Alot of people today say that youth arent getting enough excercise and are spending a way too much time in front of a television or other electronic gadget. I have to say that I tend to agree with them. It's rather scary to see almost all of my classmates overweight to the degree that they are. This is a problem in today's society and it needs to be dealt with. A good start would be to make gym mandatory for a longer amount of time, especially through high school.

im talking about grossly overweight, the kids that obviously care nothing about trying to stay fit and enjoy an active lifestyle

as for the gym thing, if someone is really that embarassed, they will do their best to improve, and show up the "jocks".

Also, I'm not saying we shouldnt be happy with who we are, but we should however, try and keep our bodies in good condition, whether you are genetically a pear, or a pumpkin, does not matter. Staying fit will allow you to enjoy life more fully and ultimately bring your self-confidence through the roof.

ok, i dont think you understand what im trying to say here, im not saying you have to weight that "ideal weight" or look a certain way, all i was trying to say in that little blurb was that, chances are, if you try and stay fit, or event just try to be fit, your probably going to have a lot of fun doing it, and it will probably lift your spirits.

sure you might feel like s**t because of the way society looks at you, but if you can go out there, and try and get in shape, just try, you will most likely feel much, much better about themselves.

Now for those of you wondering, I do know what I'm talking about, there was a person in my family struggling down this path. I'm not going to go any further than that, but thats FYI.

1. Obesity is an illness. Both physical and mental. Just the same as anerexia. The human body has developed over millenia with specific range of motion, strength, speed, etc. It was designed for specific tasks just as every other animal on the planet. There are many different body types, and obesity due to malnutrition, lack of exercise and general lazyness is bad for all of them.

2. There is a difference between genetic obesity and self-enduced obesity. If you are already born heavy with overweight parents, your risk for heart problems, circulatory problems, respiratory problems (the list goes on) are already increased before you even have a chance to do anything about it. However a genetically large individual has a better chance of retaining a healthy lifestyle and remaining healthy, than someone who becomes obese due to lazyness. Their bodies are already genetically altered to deal with excess fats and large body mass and though it may be hard (sometimes impossible) for them to lose weight, they can remain healthier than those who binge and don't care.

3. Being overweight is nothing to be ashamed of...but being that lazy person who never wants to do anything except sit around and eat cheetos wasting their existence in front of a television set because they everything else takes too much effort...there's where the problem lies. You say that the only thing that counts is being happy with yourself...but can you honestly tell me that you could look in the mirror and love yourself, while knowing that you are slowly shortening your lifespan due to gluttony?

Loving yourself and who you are, no matter what the situation is a major step towards enlightenment...however you will never truly love yourself without first knowing yourself (mind and body) and living up to your intended potential.

Staying healthy is a chore. It does not come easy -- in this day-and-age nothing does. But pretending to be happy about yourself is not an equal trade-off to doing the proper work involved. You're only fooling yourself and masking your true feelings...and you only live for yourself.

4. Shouldn't admins know better than to lead a thread waaaaaay off topic?

I wouldn't necessarily count supermodels in "healthty" category either.

I wouldn't necessarily count supermodels in the "healthy" category either.

Being overweight has less to do with looks and how one feels about oneself, and more to do with health. I wouldn't necessarily count supermodels in "healthty" category either. How much is it worth for someone to be able to look in the mirror and tell himself that it's acceptable if his arteries are clogged or he has difficulty breathing? I guess what counts really is on the inside.

It seems that you base all your arguments off of Buddhist philosophy but fail to realise the views of those who believe otherwise.

Society does have an obligation to impose rules and regulations to improve the quality of life. That encompasses healthy living. For example, the government is obligated to ban all foods that contain trans-fats.

When I said the thing about what matters is inside, I meant it literally. As for gym in school, I don't see how it hurts anyone. I hated gym: I was the nerd with his shirt tucked into his pants, couldn't throw worth crap, came in last for every race, struck out every time I was at bat, and last pick every time (and I'll be honest, high school wasn't a huge improvement either). Ego aside, gym did a world of good for me.

If you were marked based on physical ability someone needs to talk with your teacher. Some people are good at sports, other people sucked. Marks were supposed to be based on participation, but I guess that can vary based on whether the teacher is a jerk.

When I said the thing about what matters is inside, I meant it literally. As for gym in school, I don't see how it hurts anyone. I hated gym: I was the nerd with his shirt tucked into his pants, couldn't throw worth crap, came in last for every race, struck out every time I was at bat, and last pick every time (and I'll be honest, high school wasn't a huge improvement either). Ego aside, gym did a world of good for me.