MysticVegeta wrote:
I was surprised when I saw that.
MysticVegeta wrote:
to tell the truth I wasnt that surprised when I saw that,
Dumb?
I usually just choose to ignore IE when possible, it saves a lot of hating.
Computer Science Canada Dumb IE |
| Author: | MysticVegeta [ Tue May 23, 2006 6:17 pm ] |
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wow look at the shaded area in the image, I was surprised when I saw that. Its taken on my comp btw. http://www.geocities.com/ohsoinsane/dumb_ie.jpg |
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| Author: | rizzix [ Tue May 23, 2006 6:54 pm ] |
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either that or somone has hacked the site. |
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| Author: | rdrake [ Tue May 23, 2006 7:28 pm ] |
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Dumb IE doesn't render perfectly valid HTML and CSS. Why am I using tables? IE doesn't render anything else properly. It's nice to get the hate for IE out of your system. |
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| Author: | Amailer [ Tue May 23, 2006 8:11 pm ] |
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You are talking about the 'unverified publisher' right? (You added that big patch in the middle yourself right....?) If so, umm I had that happne to me once on microsoft.com o.O I believe it was when I was installing some activeX for the windows update |
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| Author: | Tony [ Tue May 23, 2006 10:06 pm ] |
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is this with IE7 Beta? I think I see something that resembles tabs in there. |
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| Author: | Mazer [ Wed May 24, 2006 9:10 am ] |
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Is the Yahoo! bar built into the browser? Can it be removed? |
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| Author: | Andy [ Wed May 24, 2006 9:30 am ] |
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i doubt it's built in.. MS was planning to buy yahoo a bit back, but i the deal didnt go through |
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| Author: | Amailer [ Wed May 24, 2006 5:31 pm ] |
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That is IE 7, I'm trying it out too- and no the Yahoo! toolbar isn't built in, but I don't suggest you download it either XD IE7 at the moment is a bit buggy... for example, if you open up two tabs and close the second one- the whole browser closes o.O (Most of the time) |
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| Author: | MysticVegeta [ Thu May 25, 2006 12:18 am ] |
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There are a lot of problems that we still dont know that go on with ie each day lol... to tell the truth I wasnt that surprised when I saw that, |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Thu May 25, 2006 9:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dumb IE |
MysticVegeta wrote: I was surprised when I saw that.
MysticVegeta wrote: to tell the truth I wasnt that surprised when I saw that,
Dumb?
I usually just choose to ignore IE when possible, it saves a lot of hating. |
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| Author: | Amailer [ Thu May 25, 2006 9:22 pm ] |
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Maybe he was lying in his first post since in the second post he said "to tell (you) the truth" Either way, I wish IE improved its bookmarking XD |
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| Author: | codemage [ Fri May 26, 2006 7:49 am ] |
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I could care less what IE does, since the interface is way behind its competition. Why would I use a product that's 3 years behind the competition in features, security, and extendability? |
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| Author: | Anonymous [ Sat May 27, 2006 7:00 pm ] |
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Amailer wrote: That is IE 7, I'm trying it out too- and no the Yahoo! toolbar isn't built in, but I don't suggest you download it either XD IE7 at the moment is a bit buggy... for example, if you open up two tabs and close the second one- the whole browser closes o.O (Most of the time)
It doesn't do that with my IE7 beta... Anywho, it works perfect for me, and no bugs. I went to Hotmail, it's fine... Firefox is still better than IE or IE7 Beta, because it's much faster. |
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| Author: | MysticVegeta [ Sat May 27, 2006 7:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dumb IE |
[Gandalf] wrote: MysticVegeta wrote: I was surprised when I saw that.
MysticVegeta wrote: to tell the truth I wasnt that surprised when I saw that,
Dumb?
I usually just choose to ignore IE when possible, it saves a lot of hating. yeah thats why I added "To tell you the truth.." in the beginning lol. yeah I agree, firefox is still faster than ie7 beta... and the 7 has SO MANY unnesscary things... they just cant put primary objectives of a browser before its add ons priority... one of the reasons I have started hating microsoft... |
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| Author: | beforelast [ Sun May 28, 2006 12:34 am ] |
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[Gandalf] wrote: MysticVegeta wrote: I was surprised when I saw that.
MysticVegeta wrote: to tell the truth I wasnt that surprised when I saw that,
Dumb?
I usually just choose to ignore IE when possible, it saves a lot of hating. i agree, but because it comes preinstalled with windows. 99% of people have and use it. its inevidable. |
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| Author: | Mazer [ Sun May 28, 2006 8:46 am ] |
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That's not true at all! First, it's avoidable just by picking a different browser. These days, you've got lots of options even if you (or the people who just go with what they've got and never give a second glance) don't realise it. Firefox, Opera, Konqueror (for *nix), Safari (for Macs), and more. I'm sure Firefox at least has a much greater market share than the remaining 1% you've allowed, especially here. Hacker_Dan, do you think we could see the browser statistics for browsers visiting CompSci.ca? |
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| Author: | beforelast [ Sun May 28, 2006 10:44 am ] |
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i run a server to. 38% of trraffic is FF. But in general i find people use IE. I myself use FF. its just impossible not to have to use. when at friends and stuff. and 99% was an exaggeration to get my poin accross. |
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| Author: | MysticVegeta [ Sun May 28, 2006 1:06 pm ] |
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Well I have to say, still lots of people use IE because they dont know others exists! They are too lazy to change browsers or maybe they just dont do enough work on the interenet for them to change browsers... Also, IE is classic being the first browser and all and being popular among people, ex: school boards use IE (most of them) If there is ever a show of computer on television, they use IE mostly too and there is no way to remove it from windows platform, so some naive people who dont know the risks of IE use it because they see no other option.... |
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| Author: | Andy [ Sun May 28, 2006 3:16 pm ] |
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MysticVegeta wrote: Well I have to say, still lots of people use IE because they dont know others exists! They are too lazy to change browsers or maybe they just dont do enough work on the interenet for them to change browsers... Also, IE is classic being the first browser and all and being popular among people, ex: school boards use IE (most of them) If there is ever a show of computer on television, they use IE mostly too and there is no way to remove it from windows platform, so some naive people who dont know the risks of IE use it because they see no other option....
ie is not the first browser, MS designed IE to put netscape out of business. I'm pretty sure most people heard of netscape Ever seen IE crash on tv? yeah, that's right. if you dont know the risk of IE, why would you look for another option? |
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| Author: | md [ Sun May 28, 2006 6:27 pm ] |
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Netscape wasn't even first, there had been many web browsers before it came along (and many are still around). In Canada aproximately 20% of browser trafic is from firefox, and only %70 is from IE. That's still a lot of trafic comming from IE, but depending on your target audience there are definitely times when <50% of trafic comes from IE. In any case you should design your website to use standards; if everyone gave up on the bullghestapo needed to get pages to render properly in IE then Microsoft would fix the rendering bugs quite quickly. |
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| Author: | rdrake [ Sun May 28, 2006 7:36 pm ] |
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Andy wrote: MysticVegeta wrote: Well I have to say, still lots of people use IE because they dont know others exists! They are too lazy to change browsers or maybe they just dont do enough work on the interenet for them to change browsers... Also, IE is classic being the first browser and all and being popular among people, ex: school boards use IE (most of them) If there is ever a show of computer on television, they use IE mostly too and there is no way to remove it from windows platform, so some naive people who dont know the risks of IE use it because they see no other option....
ie is not the first browser, MS designed IE to put netscape out of business. ... if you dont know the risk of IE, why would you look for another option? |
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| Author: | md [ Sun May 28, 2006 7:48 pm ] |
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cartoon_shark wrote: Andy wrote: MysticVegeta wrote: Well I have to say, still lots of people use IE because they dont know others exists! They are too lazy to change browsers or maybe they just dont do enough work on the interenet for them to change browsers... Also, IE is classic being the first browser and all and being popular among people, ex: school boards use IE (most of them) If there is ever a show of computer on television, they use IE mostly too and there is no way to remove it from windows platform, so some naive people who dont know the risks of IE use it because they see no other option....
ie is not the first browser, MS designed IE to put netscape out of business. ... if you dont know the risk of IE, why would you look for another option? Not entirely true; it was originally based on Spyglass Mosaic, not NCSA Mosaic; two completely independent applications. It was improved significantly by the time version 3.0 came around; which is also the version when it started getting used. |
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| Author: | rdrake [ Sun May 28, 2006 8:20 pm ] |
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Cornflake wrote: Not entirely true; it was originally based on Spyglass Mosaic, not NCSA Mosaic; two completely independent applications. It was improved significantly by the time version 3.0 came around; which is also the version when it started getting used. You and your perfectionism  . Regardless, it seems like no matter what one does as a web designer, there's always a browser out there to screw up the perfect design. Just gotta get the best of both functionality, appearance, and browser compatibility. |
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| Author: | MysticVegeta [ Sun May 28, 2006 9:21 pm ] |
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woah, I didnt know IE wasnt first! As for functionality, appearance, and browser compatibility, I used to think netscape was good but then 7.2 came out -_- and there are SO MANY USELESS THINGS inside it and they tried to make it look more cooler and better but I think it just sucks, so firefox is go-go for me  |
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| Author: | codemage [ Mon May 29, 2006 8:04 am ] |
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Yeah, Netscape v7 pretty much forced me to switch to IE. I coundn't stand the instability. IE is hugely popular because many businesses and educational institutions (like my own) FORCE their members to use it. I use portable FF on a USB stick, and Opera (the fastest browser) at home. Everyone has the right to use IE. You're just not allowed to complain about it when there are better, free options out there. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Mon May 29, 2006 7:50 pm ] |
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Mazer wrote: Hacker_Dan, do you think we could see the browser statistics for browsers visiting CompSci.ca?
For the curent month of may: |
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| Author: | beforelast [ Mon May 29, 2006 9:32 pm ] |
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http://www.atomicindustries.net/stats.JPG |
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| Author: | Dan [ Wed May 31, 2006 5:40 pm ] |
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beforelast wrote: http://www.atomicindustries.net/stats.JPG
Did i miss somthing i thought they asked from CompSci.ca's logs.... Any how i whould think the nature of this site whould effect the browser percetnages from that of a noraml site. Tho sadly IE is still in the top but i bet if i had a log compreing most active users or users with most posts to there browser we whould see somthing intresting, where FF and other non M$ ones whould be in the top. Either way FF is alot higher then 1%..... |
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