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Do you, uh, rofl?

Author:  Mazer [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:44 am ]
Post subject:  Do you, uh, rofl?

Hey, kids, stop killing the internet. I can understand people having their own slang, inside jokes, jargon, and whatever else, but this is getting ridiculous.

j/k = just kidding (I'm not even going to get into how stupid this one is)
lol = laughing out loud
rofl = rolling on the floor laughing
roflmao = rolling on the floor laughing my ass off
[etc]

Now, let's work our way up from the bottom. "roflmao"? How exactly does one laugh ones ass off? Is it painful? Is it permanent? Oh, sure, it's a figure of speech. You can argue that the events coinciding with your "roflmao" are so intensely funny that you are unable to do anything but laugh. I find that difficult to believe.

"rofl"? This kind of goes with the other one, but it's obvious anyways that you aren't rolling on the floor laughing unless you have a wireless (and small) keyboard and you're incredibly good at typing or you've got some sort of ['r', 'o', 'f', 'l'] macro built in. No, I know what you meant. You meant to convey the fact that you just read or thought something especially funny. Or did you? Do you ever read something, and then try to guage how funny it is before remarking on it or do you just pull something randomly from a pile of acronyms?

"lol". Don't get me wrong, I use this one sometimes. There are times that I'll read something (yes, even on this message board) that will in fact make me laugh out loud. But reading some posts it seems like with the frequency of your "lol"s everyone around you must think your insane. Either that or you're just insincere.

Personally, I don't think "lol" gets anything across now. I rarely use it. It's like some kind of space crystal that's been used so much that all power has been drained from it. If somebody sends me a message with something funny I have to respond with "LOL!" to truly make it clear that they are, in fact, entertaining me.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is, I can't help but wonder, do you really mean it?

To a lesser extent, the same can be said for emoticons. Using a few can easily get a message across, but for the love of all that is English: don't use them as punctuation.

Also, "j/k" doesn't really fit in for this, but the way I see it: if you are kidding, people should be able to get it or you need to work on your communication. And just in case the problem is on your end, I'm not kidding about this. I really want to know what's going on.

Author:  Mazer [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:48 am ]
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And don't get me wrong, I'm not some dark empty emotionless shell of a person anymore (I used to be when I was younger, it was friggin' great). I'll smile when I'm happy, I'll laugh when it's funny. Hey, I've actually got a sense of humour. Because, apparently, people think I'm funny.

But there's a line. I won't laugh at anything, because in my opinion not everything is funny. And you?

Author:  NikG [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:11 am ]
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i use lol often i guess. occasionally i use j/k too. The others have never really made sense to me (just as Mazer said... how DO you laugh your ass off, especially while rolling on the floor?)

I disagree about "j/k" though Mazer. I think it's normal and perfectly fine. You're sayin people need to work on their communication if they have to use j/k, but the fact of the matter is that online communication is NOT real communication. More often than not, you will not get that true feel of how the other person is communicating (as you would when talking face-to-face). Because of this, the fact that you're "just kidding" might not get across easily, thus warranting the "j/k"

Author:  Mazer [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:21 am ]
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You know what? I think you're right. I was pushing it with the "j/k" comments, and as I said it wasn't really related. I guess my reasoning is that when I see "j/k" it's often in a post littered with "lol"s "rofl"s and otherwise nothing that can be understood or worth reading.

Author:  NikG [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:27 am ]
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Haha, well that's true, and I agree, it IS turning out to be a serious literacy/laziness/general stupidness problem.

Edit: I wonder if I just added to the problem there with my "Haha." I may have found Mazer's post above amusing, but I can't honestly say that I really did laugh... maybe a small smirk...
I guess I also use those things without thinking about it too much, though obviously not to the same level as most people out there.

Author:  codemage [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:36 am ]
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I'd wager that LMAO is a bastardization of "laughing so hard that my ass falls of my chair." After all, it's hard for your ass to come off while you're sitting on it. Having only done this a few times in my many years, I'd agree that its use is likely quite exaggerated. The time sequence shift makes it a bit easier than stating LSHTIFOOMCBIBATKN. (Laughed so hard that I fell out of my chair, but I'm back at the keyboard now.)

Which reminds me of the ever-present FPS acronym, AFK. If you're away at the keyboard, then who just typed that? Creepy. Clearly, there *is* someone at the keyboard, and it's ok if I shoot you.

Last year I had a few (3 or 4) 1st year college essays that contained "LOL". I actually thought to warn the students not to use internet acronyms beforehand - so needless to say, they failed.

Emoticons are great if it's hard to express a particular sentiment with just writing. Sometimes sarcasm is difficult to convey without a lot of context. Emoticons help out greatly in those contexts, you frickin bunch of morons. Wink

Author:  Andy [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:06 pm ]
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i think AFK is pretty legit in the sense that most people use it as "oh sorry, I was AFK". but yeah acronyms do kinda suck.. i try to not use them as much as I used to

Author:  Amailer [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:56 pm ]
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I think, I'm not sure- I think I only use LOL, AFK and BRB

Author:  rizzix [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:11 pm ]
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Mazer wrote:
I won't laugh at anything, because in my opinion not everything is funny.
You suck! j/k j/k j/k.. rofl.. lmao..

Anyway.. i've used "lol" a lot.. and umm it's like this for me: It is something that is sort of funny but not really worth the effort of laughing out all that much in reality... But just to show my appreciation for the effort put in making the humorous comment I'll throw in an "lol".

But, if I do find something really funny you'll see it in all caps, like "LOL" followed by "that's funny" or "funny stuff" or.. "ROFL!" followed by "I can't stop laughing".. or "LOL" followed by "Not" which implies "just shut up and cry, I'm not in the mood of laughing"

Author:  md [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:51 pm ]
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I use lol, and brb. Most other acronyms I don't use very often at all.

I might use lol more then most... but then I am also a most jovial person... and more then a little crazy Very Happy

Author:  MysticVegeta [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:32 pm ]
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I use lol, rofl, jk, and thats prettty much it, cause words are harder to follow otherwise

Author:  Cervantes [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:33 pm ]
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Only use 'lol' in IM (and of course, 'IM' is a different kind of acronym) conversations, and rarely there. I'd prefer to try to spell out my laughter; that's a lot more reflective of the truth of the exact way I'm laughing ('heh', 'haha', or 'MWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA' etc.).

Acronymns in forums (or the wiki; people throwing 'lol' into a wiki post that is supposed to be serious... Ugh.) is a no. Except here. But this doesn't count.

Author:  [Gandalf] [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:45 pm ]
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Sigh... Wait... Did I just sigh? Guess not.

Personally, I almost never use acronyms like those you referred to on forums and things like that (wiki, etc). Really, only on IRC. These things aren't meant to annoy (usually), they just add another method of expressing yourself using text. If I say "lol" am I actually laughing out loud? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. But you still know I found your post/message amusing. They fit more into an IRC channel where there is mass kicking going on than a good forum. Either way, nowadays I do what Minsc described more often than lolz0rz.

And yes, I admit that I do probably overuse smilies on IRC. Smile
Please forgive any incoherent sentences above, it happens.

Author:  Cervantes [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:13 pm ]
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[Gandalf] wrote:
Either way, nowadays I do what Minsc described more often than lolz0rz.

Who's Minsc? Wink

Author:  rizzix [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:15 pm ]
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hey Minsc!

Author:  Mazer [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:18 pm ]
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NO, NO. It's:
Quote:
HI MINSC
:)

Author:  [Gandalf] [ Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:05 pm ]
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code:
%%% "Post Fixer" %%%
var omgtext : string
process make1337text
    var COOLARRAY : array 1 .. * of string := init ("lolz", "lmao", "ROFL!", "jk", "lol", "omg", "rofl", "roflmao")
    var fixedstr : string := ""
    var numberz0rs : int
    for i : 1 .. length (omgtext)
        numberz0rs := Rand.Int (1, 100)
        if numberz0rs > 70 then
             fixedstr += Str.Upper (omgtext (i))
        elsif omgtext (i) = " " then
            if numberz0rs < 20 then
                fixedstr += " :D "
            elsif numberz0rs > 50 then
                fixedstr += " " + COOLARRAY (Rand.Int (1, upper (COOLARRAY))) + " "
            elsif numberz0rs > 30 then
                fixedstr += " "
            end if
        else
            if omgtext(i) = "o" or omgtext(i) = "O" then
                fixedstr += "0"
            else
                fixedstr += omgtext (i)
            end if
        end if
    end for
    omgtext := fixedstr
end make1337text
setscreen ("text:max;max")
put "Enter the faulty sentence: "
get omgtext : *
put "The improved sentence is: "
fork make1337text
delay(200)
put omgtext

Authentic output, eh? If I enter this into the FP competition for this year, think I'll win? Actually, I think it may be the greatest thing since Evasive Maneuvers.

*edit* Err... admittedly, I'm not feeling my best right now... Maybe after a few hours of sleep... Your forgiveness, please. Smile

Author:  MysticVegeta [ Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:15 pm ]
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Processes? Eh

Author:  Mazer [ Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:58 pm ]
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No, no, he's right. Though I don't appreciate having my threads hijacked with blasphemy.

Author:  Dan [ Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:03 pm ]
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This realy is not a good use of threades. There is no way to know if it has or will fished the excution of make1337text in 200 millionseonds. Any number of things could happen depending the computer it is ran on from doing nothing to the input text to, working, or just crashing badly.

It all deppends on what thread has what prioity, how long thos intrcustions will take to work on a givnen cpu and the type of cpu. If the computer runing this hass 2 cpus or is hypertheared the threads will _maybe_ run at the excat same time tho maybe not depedning on what other process the system is runing. If it is a noraml cpu the process will interchage cpu time and it will have a random outcome.

Sine the time to complet make1337text is totaly based on the size of the inputed string and the speed of the cpu i do not see how one could know that it whould for shure be done in 200 millionseonds even tho this is likey on newer computers or that turing is not runing in very lower prioity with a tone of other high proity process that will delay the runing on the process.

Author:  Mazer [ Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:15 pm ]
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Okay, I seriously thought it was an EM joke...

Author:  [Gandalf] [ Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:38 pm ]
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Uhm... Yeah, sorry about that. But yes, I was only joking. I tried to make it obvious with the colourful* variable naming and the fine* use of processes. How things get misinterpreted...

*read: "horrible" and "extremely bad" for those who don't catch the sarcasm ;)

Author:  Dan [ Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:39 pm ]
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LOL, sorry about that. I am in exams week and have not sleepted in some time so sarcasm let alone reading is hard.

Author:  Mazer [ Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:59 pm ]
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And ANOTHER thing. When I learned to read, all those 18.5 years ago ( Wink ), I was taught to sound the words out. Maybe that's just gotten stuck in my head, but when I'm reading a post, I'm hearing the words in my head (it makes more sense if I'm reading a post by someone I know in real life and can assign a voice to). So what happens when I come across the world "rofl" used in a "sentence"? I hear rofl. And it makes you sound like an idiot!

Disclaimer: this does not necessarily mean you are an idiot in real life. But hey, this sure explains why I'm so upset about the whole thing.

See also: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/6409

Author:  Amailer [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:55 am ]
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Odd, I do the same thing- but when I see the word "rofl" i hear "roof" what the ..... Shocked

Author:  md [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:59 am ]
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rofl, v. raw-full. A term for laughter which is so hard it causes you to fall off your chair and roll arround on the floor. Usually occurs when the laughee is already in a state of lol and is told something even more funny.

Author:  TokenHerbz [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:15 pm ]
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i see "RAWR" lots when one dies in a game.
i use "brb"... because be right back is so long
i use "haha" mostly, instead of "lol" though somtimes i use "lolz" cause its sexier..

i HATE playing games an seeing "asl" or "a/s/l" ..
i HATE bf / gf / or stupid other terms like "teh" (for the)
i say "noob" and "ownd" once in a while, when ones pissing me off, i spam it hard to them, and start cuzzing Smile...

iv'e seen other exotic terms which i dont know what they mean, one such as "cba"...

i can handle cheap typing, like "u" for you, or "4" for four, but dumb terms get annying..


AND I LOVE TO PUT "..."'s, watch my typing and ill do it a bit to much, though no one notices, i just realized this reading over what i typed abouve!

Author:  md [ Mon May 01, 2006 1:34 am ]
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For me most of these acronyms are just that; acronyms. My mind automagically transforms them into what they are short for. "brb" becomes "be right back", without my even thinking about it. "lol" and "rofl" and "lmao" all just mean laughing to me. Sure it's annoying when someone uses lol in every sentence; but if something really is funny how else are you to express it in text?

asl is stupid not because it's abrevetated but because of the questions it's asking.

On the other hand bf/gf are perfectly valid abreviations for boyfriend and girlfriend respectively. When comunicating in a test only enviroment like irc where saying what you want quickly is usually good abreviating 9 and 10 character words is understandable. The same with the being types as "teh". When it's done simply because yout typing quickly I can inderstand it completely.

People who type "teh" on purpose however... or "u" or "4" just piss me off. "You" is not an incredibly hard word to type. I mean really... typing "you" takes me just as much time as typing "u", because "u" is not an abreviation. It requires me to think about it, where as you just follows naturally.

Author:  Tony [ Mon May 01, 2006 2:06 am ]
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heh, so I was playing StarCraft the other week and in the course of in-game chat some idiot ended up saying something alone the lines of "u need to learn to spell", only somehow it was not as long.

just.. wow

I ofcourse proceeded to completely destroy his noob base Twisted Evil

Author:  codemage [ Mon May 01, 2006 8:53 am ]
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The least annoying game phrases and acronyms are those that actually make a sentence write AND read faster without losing any comprehension.

The best acros are those that someone who hasn't seen them before can figure out on their own (because of readability and proper context) w/o having to look them up.

Author:  Mazer [ Mon May 01, 2006 9:10 am ]
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Tony wrote:
saying something alone the lines of "u need to learn to spell"

I do believe you've mispelled "along", Tony. Wink

Author:  Tony [ Mon May 01, 2006 10:51 am ]
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ok, that was a typo. There's no way one can miss "you" for a "u". That's like having 2/3 of the word disappear Laughing

Author:  s3arkay [ Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:05 pm ]
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If i use it I usually pull off a laugh

Author:  lilmizeminem [ Fri May 18, 2007 11:21 am ]
Post subject:  RE:Do you, uh, rofl?

yea i use them all the time aha! <--- see.

Author:  Tallguy [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:33 am ]
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i use them from time to time, it expresss wat u can't write


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