Computer Science Canada Optimus Keyboard |
Author: | md [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:35 pm ] |
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Previously mentioned I'm sure, but here it is again: The Optimus Keyboard To be released febuary ![]() |
Author: | cool dude [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:51 pm ] |
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that looks pretty nice. it even has a firefox button on it! ![]() |
Author: | chrispminis [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:53 pm ] |
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Nice... looks cool, i saw another cool keyboard thats projected with a little lamp thing and you type on the projected keyboard ![]() |
Author: | Mazer [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:53 am ] |
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chrispminis wrote: Only problem with this optimus is that the wasd keys aren't very good arrow keys any more, seems that okl; would be the better combo. Not a very big thing, just a lil annoyance perhaps for all you wasd gamers lol.
What the hell are you talking about? Aside from the fact that 'wasd' is a very popular configuration, the whole idea of this keyboard is that it is configurable. |
Author: | chrispminis [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:07 am ] |
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I mean that, if you look at the Quake set up, they decided to use the wasd placement of arrows. Its a very familiar spot for my hands but on the new keyboard they aren't very good arrows (I think you can only change button values not the button layout?). So I would probably end up using a different combination namely "okl;" which seems to make better arrows, but since thats a different spot for my hand it might be a bit awkward, plus with different placements for buttons near me, most of them now being to the left of my hand. Like I said its a small problem, a peeve at worse. Just criticizing anything cool anyone release is all lol. |
Author: | md [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:03 am ] |
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Sorry to disapoint, but WASD on the optimus is exactly the same as on my keyboard. Either way it's entirely changable so you could put it wherever you wanted. According to some things I've read elsewhere expect the price to be between $200 and $300 US. |
Author: | cool dude [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:43 am ] |
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thats really expensive for a keyboard in my opinion. it is cool, but i don't think i would spend so much money on a keyboard. if it was $100 U.S. i would prolly buy it because it looks awsome, but $200 or $300 US is too expensive. wats the max u would pay for a keyboard? |
Author: | md [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:44 am ] |
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I'd pay $150 for a keyboard normally, but I might consider shelling out more for this. 'Course I don't have the money anyways... but it's always nice to have a wish list ![]() |
Author: | bugzpodder [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:41 am ] |
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how about a better keyboard layout dvorak: http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/layout.html a typical user can type 120-150wpm with this setting compared to average of 60-80wpm on a qwerty keyboard. fastest times on a dvorak keyboard is 220wpm |
Author: | brenn [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:19 pm ] |
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I use Dvorak. And no, I'm not any faster with it than with QWERTY yet... But I've been only using the former for less than a month. |
Author: | axej [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:14 pm ] |
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i find qwerty better, but its probably cause im used to qwerty. about the kewyboard, it looks nice but those saitek eclipse keyboards have caught my eye and they look a whole lot better IMO |
Author: | 1of42 [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:21 pm ] |
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Of course Dvorak is faster - qwerty was originally designed to purposefully slow down typing - it was designed for mechanical typewriters which would lock up if people typed on them too fast. This is why common letters are all over the keyboard, making more movement necessary, and thus slowing down typing. On the other hand, it's the standard now, so it probably won't change - I know personally wouldn't switch, because I don't think that typing that fast would be useful, and it definitely isn't worth the hassle of having to reconfigure all the programs that assume qwerty settings. |
Author: | rizzix [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:48 pm ] |
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Ooh a mac keyboard.. or.. ehm.. well it has the Command (four leaf clover) sign and the Option sign.. but do the signs change when i connect it to a PC? Like would I get a windows sign and the "Alt" sign. |
Author: | md [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:50 pm ] |
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The bebate between querty and dorvak is pointless, studies have show both to be equally fast in most cases. Also would people please check their facts before saying things. Querty was designed to keep the type writer from jamming, while still allowing you to type fast. |
Author: | rizzix [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:53 pm ] |
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Yea and i'd like to mention that some "programing languages" were designed with the qwerty keyboard in mind, thus making the whole process of writing code a lot easier for qwerty programmers. Also, most chat acronyms are pretty hard to write on a dvorak keyboard. |
Author: | Naveg [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:45 pm ] |
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rizzix wrote: Ooh a mac keyboard.. or.. ehm.. well it has the Command (four leaf clover) sign and the Option sign.. but do the signs change when i connect it to a PC?
Like would I get a windows sign and the "Alt" sign. Yes. And it automatically detects the active program as well. Take a look at the photoshop picture, the letters are replaces with the hotkey tools. |
Author: | Mazer [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:42 pm ] |
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rizzix wrote: Also, most chat acronyms are pretty hard to write on a dvorak keyboard.
omfg dvorak ftw lol. Really, I consider that a good thing. |
Author: | bugzpodder [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:22 pm ] |
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Cornflake wrote: The bebate between querty and dorvak is pointless, studies have show both to be equally fast in most cases. Also would people please check their facts before saying things. Querty was designed to keep the type writer from jamming, while still allowing you to type fast.
actually both of the things you've mentioned are entirely new to me. I suspect that you are the one who should check your facts. I've always heard (from websites) that dvorak is MUCH FASTER (to type ENGLISH SENTENCES), and the qwerty is exactly like 1of42 said, designed to SLOW DOWN typing (of english sentences). |
Author: | md [ Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:35 am ] |
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bugzpodder wrote: Cornflake wrote: The bebate between querty and dorvak is pointless, studies have show both to be equally fast in most cases. Also would people please check their facts before saying things. Querty was designed to keep the type writer from jamming, while still allowing you to type fast.
actually both of the things you've mentioned are entirely new to me. I suspect that you are the one who should check your facts. I've always heard (from websites) that dvorak is MUCH FASTER (to type ENGLISH SENTENCES), and the qwerty is exactly like 1of42 said, designed to SLOW DOWN typing (of english sentences). I'm sick of arguing things on compsci; between the "discussion" on ID and religion (no one's gonna change their mind at this point, even though some people have no idea what they are talking about), and the recent rise of annoying noobs (died down now though... thankfully...). However I stick by my facts. Querty is designed to alow you to type quickly without jamming the keys on a type writer. Dorvak is make so that the most common letters are easiest to get to. while dorvak may be theoretically faster, there is more to typing then just pressing keys. In practice both are about the same as far as speed goes. |
Author: | rizzix [ Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:40 am ] |
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Well Cornflake you could always post a link to the results of those "studies" you know. Then no one can argue.. ![]() |
Author: | timmytheturtle [ Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:01 am ] |
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Cornflake wrote: I'm sick of arguing things on compsci;
That's why I don't particate in discussions But as for dvorak vs qwerty. why does it matter which can type faster?, cause it doesn't to me. I use qwerty cause that what I learn to type on and I don't want to waste my time, or have a need to learn to type on a new style of keyboard. |
Author: | Mazer [ Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:47 am ] |
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If I recall correctly, another reason for Dvorak is that there's less reaching for more common keys and is therefore easier on your hands/wrists. Many people seem to like the idea of avoiding carpal tunnel syndrome. |
Author: | [Gandalf] [ Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:08 pm ] |
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Wouldn't it be difficult for someone to learn to use a DVORAK keyboard well, and then go somewhere and have to use a qwerty keyboard? It's hard to go against convention. Or would you just get used to it somehow? I can't imagine. |
Author: | MyPistolsIn3D [ Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:18 pm ] |
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I am going to buy one of those keyboards. Who cares about teh price? Thats the sickest keyboard ever. |
Author: | Mazer [ Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:09 pm ] |
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[Gandalf] wrote: Wouldn't it be difficult for someone to learn to use a DVORAK keyboard well, and then go somewhere and have to use a qwerty keyboard? It's hard to go against convention. Or would you just get used to it somehow? I can't imagine.
I imagine learning Dvorak should be about as difficult as learning Qwerty. Let's not kid ourselves, we all sucked ass when we first started typing. As for switching back and forth, many people claim to have no troubles. But don't take their word for it... read it! I mean--try it! |