Oops, I just made a double post
ah well, I guess it helps gandalf's cause.
Computer Science Canada Allowing Editing of Posts in Help Forums |
| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Allowing Editing of Posts in Help Forums |
It should be allowed since it causes lots of double posts, and other inconveniences. I've seen a lot of people complaining... Till a better solution is found this restriction just causes more problems than it solves. Maybe just allow editing till someone posts after? |
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| Author: | Tony [ Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Allowing Editing of Posts in Help Forums |
[Gandalf] wrote: Maybe just allow editing till someone posts after?
I like this idea, though Dan would be the one implementing the solution, so it would ultimatly be his call on how possible that is. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:37 pm ] |
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It used to be this way but users masivey aboused it. Affter they got help they whould edit there posts so no one could see what the origal content was. This kind of defates the purposes of saving all the help topics so users could referce them when they have simalr problems. |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:52 pm ] |
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So allowing posts to be edited only if nobody has answered solves that, since they can't edit once they have already gotten help... The way it currently is just causes problems to the average user, which affects a much larger range of people than those who abuse it. |
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| Author: | Martin [ Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:04 pm ] |
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Can you set it so that users can edit their posts in help for up to five minutes after they've been made? I think this would solve the issue. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:35 pm ] |
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Martin wrote: Can you set it so that users can edit their posts in help for up to five minutes after they've been made? I think this would solve the issue.
I can not set it to do ether that or gandalf's sugestion, tho i psoably could mod it to do so. I will try to look in to it during the updates next week. I do not see how not being able to edit should case problems for double posting, but rath whould only cause problems due to delete setings. |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:50 pm ] |
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Hacker Dan wrote: I do not see how not being able to edit should case problems for double posting, but rath whould only cause problems due to delete setings.
Well... Yes, and nobody wants to do that. It's much easier to just edit than copy your post, then have to rewrite any bbcode, etc. |
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| Author: | Paul [ Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:05 pm ] |
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Oops, I just made a double post
ah well, I guess it helps gandalf's cause. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:11 pm ] |
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[Gandalf] wrote: Hacker Dan wrote: I do not see how not being able to edit should case problems for double posting, but rath whould only cause problems due to delete setings.
Well... Yes, and nobody wants to do that. It's much easier to just edit than copy your post, then have to rewrite any bbcode, etc. Eh? Why whould you have to repost if you double posted? You whould just have to delete one of them........... |
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| Author: | Martin [ Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:41 pm ] |
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Come to think of it, if people do a double post they can just say "Sorry, double post." and a moderator can delete it for them. Our system is fine. Anyone has a problem, PM me or Dan or Tony or one of the 400 other mods on the site. |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:04 pm ] |
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Argh! I pressed "submit" and compsci breaks 
You misunderstand me. I'm not talking about posting the same thing twice by mistake. I am talking about seeing somethng wrong with you post, so you can either ignore it if it's minor or make a consecutive post saying where you made a misake. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:08 pm ] |
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[Gandalf] wrote: Argh! I pressed "submit" and compsci breaks
You misunderstand me. I'm not talking about posting the same thing twice by mistake. I am talking about seeing somethng wrong with you post, so you can either ignore it if it's minor or make a consecutive post saying where you made a misake. Ah i hit the big red buttion that says "do not press", luck i just instaed one that is green and says "press to save from pressing red buttion" so we are all good. About editing, i realy do not know. I whont users to be able to edit there posts but at the same time i do not whont to see posts start disapering. |
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| Author: | Martin [ Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:29 am ] |
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Maybe we could force the user to click preview before they post in the help forum (like on slashdot). |
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| Author: | Amailer [ Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:06 am ] |
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Timed edit is the best, programmingtalk.com has that I believe its 15 minutes, good enough time to look over your post and check of any changes needed to be made/added. For some odd reason, I can't find a mod already built to do this for phpBB 
[EDIT: hehe] Nevermind, found something I think, not sure 
[EDIT:2] Or you know, you could always save the origional, and add it to the edited message with php if is a totally new post Like how i'm doing right here.
[EDIT:3] Could get a bit annoying though... [EDIT:4] Yeah... |
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| Author: | djlenny_3000 [ Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:44 pm ] |
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Personally id didnt really mind back when i always needed help O boy did i need help but if people start complaining then do it also make it so that a double post dosnt get you bits, ie. i post now and for 4 hours i cant post again or its worth nothing or if i post right after myself i lose bits for both posts its an idea  |
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| Author: | timmytheturtle [ Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:49 pm ] |
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djlenny_3000 make your avatar smaller. theres alot of black space on the sides that can be cut off |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 7:26 pm ] |
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Yeargh! Something must be done, personally I find it most annoying. 11-4 are some convincing results. A forced preview would only lead to people ignoring it, and even if they double checked their posts sometimes there are things you add/change that you wouldn't notice. Dare I say the lack of response is because mods can edit either way  . |
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| Author: | Dan [ Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:43 pm ] |
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Editing will be allowed in v3, v3 will be up in the new year.........hopfully.... |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:52 pm ] |
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Alright, can't wait. 
Will bits be deleted or converted to the new system? Have to spend them quick if they will disappear lol. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:53 pm ] |
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[Gandalf] wrote: Alright, can't wait.
Will bits be deleted or converted to the new system? Have to spend them quick if they will disappear lol. Converted or left alone........not 100% shure about how the encomeny will chage. Right now i am busy fighting off the google bots from DoSing the site. |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:04 pm ] |
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Can't you disallow googlebot from accessing the site in a robots.txt file? Or if you just want to limit it, certain parts of the site to limit the traffic caused? Only problem is, google ratings will probably go down then.
Or is that not what you are talking about? |
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| Author: | Dan [ Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:05 am ] |
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[Gandalf] wrote: Can't you disallow googlebot from accessing the site in a robots.txt file? Or if you just want to limit it, certain parts of the site to limit the traffic caused? Only problem is, google ratings will probably go down then.
Or is that not what you are talking about? It kind of is, the google bot is not obaying the robots stuff and maybe due to a phpbb worm trying to hack us. Also i whont to do it with out effecting the rank of the site on google. Unforntly this may not be easy to do..... |
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| Author: | Amailer [ Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:04 pm ] |
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But you have to make sure you don't block the listing of compsci on google while your at it, I believe that was one of compscis biggest referral points for users, plus its search is better than phpbbs  (I use it sometimes) |
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| Author: | Dan [ Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:23 pm ] |
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Indeed, but having google index serveral 10000 posts and 1000 topics is not going to be good for any one. I think i have it underctonral now with some cerative coding in php, htaccess, robots.txt and the meta tags. I will see what i can do it make it better tho..... |
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| Author: | Amailer [ Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:45 pm ] |
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Hmm, well I did a search using google and... all the results come up as simple links only, no titles; how come? (can it be made to display the page title, google doesn't seem to be reading all the sites right; it read all the mx pages and they are all broken :S thats if you remove the /v2/ from the search) |
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