Comments on: My job is more addictive than Facebook http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/ Programming, Education, Computer Science Wed, 30 Sep 2020 08:31:44 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mike Minutillo http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-17082 Mike Minutillo Tue, 01 May 2007 04:35:51 +0000 http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/#comment-17082 It also tends to pay less but you need to decide what it is that you actually want. It also tends to pay less but you need to decide what it is that you actually want.

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By: Tony http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-17076 Tony Tue, 01 May 2007 03:32:11 +0000 http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/#comment-17076 Mike M. has posted an excellent response, I don't have much more to add to that. Just confirming (from experience) that smaller, self-contained, teams have much better communication and offer politics-free work environment that facilitate both productivity and enjoyment. Mike M. has posted an excellent response, I don’t have much more to add to that. Just confirming (from experience) that smaller, self-contained, teams have much better communication and offer politics-free work environment that facilitate both productivity and enjoyment.

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By: Mike Minutillo http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-16950 Mike Minutillo Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:51:18 +0000 http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/#comment-16950 @Mike - I don't find that at all. I work with Corporate Communications Consultants, done Sales and also a little Management. The real trick is to find something you like doing and then find some sucker who wants to pay you to do it. If you find that you have Sales or Management people with different agendas wearing you down, find a different team, or better yet a much MUCH smaller one. If you find yourself working in a team of five people total, you should have a very different experience. If you can't find a team like this, start one. I'm sure you have smart friends with grand ideas. Right now we live in a world absolutely filled with potential for young talented groups of people. Super-saturated in fact. The trick isn't to have the best idea, or even to be the first to market. The trick is to be the first to hit the front page of digg. We work in one of the only environments where the entire industry is literally at our fingertips. If these tips don't do it for you, try Sales or Management. Seriously! Or try customer training. Or UI design. Or anything else. Get outside your comfort zone. If you can't get the coding zen you wish to reach at work, don't try. Do something else and then create a great Open Source project when you get home. @Mike – I don’t find that at all. I work with Corporate Communications Consultants, done Sales and also a little Management. The real trick is to find something you like doing and then find some sucker who wants to pay you to do it.

If you find that you have Sales or Management people with different agendas wearing you down, find a different team, or better yet a much MUCH smaller one. If you find yourself working in a team of five people total, you should have a very different experience.

If you can’t find a team like this, start one. I’m sure you have smart friends with grand ideas. Right now we live in a world absolutely filled with potential for young talented groups of people. Super-saturated in fact. The trick isn’t to have the best idea, or even to be the first to market. The trick is to be the first to hit the front page of digg.

We work in one of the only environments where the entire industry is literally at our fingertips.

If these tips don’t do it for you, try Sales or Management. Seriously! Or try customer training. Or UI design. Or anything else. Get outside your comfort zone.

If you can’t get the coding zen you wish to reach at work, don’t try. Do something else and then create a great Open Source project when you get home.

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By: Mike http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-16718 Mike Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:46:21 +0000 http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/#comment-16718 It's not the work necessarily, its the overhead. Management or Sales people will eventually wear you down. They have a whole separate agenda that doesn't involve a zen state of programming. It’s not the work necessarily, its the overhead. Management or Sales people will eventually wear you down. They have a whole separate agenda that doesn’t involve a zen state of programming.

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By: Tony http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-16714 Tony Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:30:35 +0000 http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/#comment-16714 @Mike - I'll keep this for reference, though it seems that your point is way off. If your "youth" is defined as getting away with the bare minimum required - well I've said this already, you're in the wrong field of work. If I wasn't working, I'd be doing the same thing anyways. I suppose the trick is being good enough at what you do, to get paid. One could also win a lottery. @Mike – I’ll keep this for reference, though it seems that your point is way off. If your “youth” is defined as getting away with the bare minimum required – well I’ve said this already, you’re in the wrong field of work. If I wasn’t working, I’d be doing the same thing anyways. I suppose the trick is being good enough at what you do, to get paid. One could also win a lottery.

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By: Mike http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-16701 Mike Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:53:21 +0000 http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/#comment-16701 You sound like a real douche bag. I think it may be just because you haven't had enuf live experience....one day you will see the truth, work is a scam, everyone is trying to rob you of your youth. I hope you remember this post, when you realize that. You sound like a real douche bag. I think it may be just because you haven’t had enuf live experience….one day you will see the truth, work is a scam, everyone is trying to rob you of your youth. I hope you remember this post, when you realize that.

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By: Tony http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-16621 Tony Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:39:00 +0000 http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/#comment-16621 @Andrew - breaks are certainly important, but having "new message" flash in the background will encourage those "breaks" to be every 30 seconds. Personally, I get some <a href="http://compsci.ca/blog/death-by-coffee-whats-your-programming-drink/" title="Death by Coffee - what’s your Programming Drink?" rel="nofollow">coffee</a> or just walk outside for a bit - get fresh air and reset for the next task. @Mike - That's quite a good advice from your dad. It's pretty bad to get stuck in a job one doesn't enjoy, but it takes action to truly realize that fact and take steps to change the situation. I'm glad that you're heading in the right direction, and things seem to be working out for you and your family :) @Bashar - you're right, the economic differences in the world might not allow the same idealistic opportunity to all. At the same time, the internet blurs out a lot of the borders, allowing for online freelance work from virtually anywhere in the world. Good luck with reaching your objective :) @Andrew – breaks are certainly important, but having “new message” flash in the background will encourage those “breaks” to be every 30 seconds. Personally, I get some coffee or just walk outside for a bit – get fresh air and reset for the next task.

@Mike – That’s quite a good advice from your dad. It’s pretty bad to get stuck in a job one doesn’t enjoy, but it takes action to truly realize that fact and take steps to change the situation. I’m glad that you’re heading in the right direction, and things seem to be working out for you and your family :)

@Bashar – you’re right, the economic differences in the world might not allow the same idealistic opportunity to all. At the same time, the internet blurs out a lot of the borders, allowing for online freelance work from virtually anywhere in the world. Good luck with reaching your objective :)

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By: Bashar http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-16467 Bashar Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:28:30 +0000 http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/#comment-16467 I used to be a complete Amateur at the time I graduated, that is to the extreme X-axis. However, unfortunately with work environment, and life responsibility when you have a family, it's currently only the y-axis, which is really sad. What I figured out is, at least here in Kuwait and most Arab countries, if you really want to do the correct thing, work hard and do your best, you will be swimming against the current. My objective now is to find a job with short working hours, no on call or late nights of work, the focus on my free time to learn, work, enjoy and do freelance online business. My last 1 month leave I started enjoying working again, I was working on my own. so by doing this, hopefully, i will get the dot in the middle of the two axis. I used to be a complete Amateur at the time I graduated, that is to the extreme X-axis. However, unfortunately with work environment, and life responsibility when you have a family, it’s currently only the y-axis, which is really sad.

What I figured out is, at least here in Kuwait and most Arab countries, if you really want to do the correct thing, work hard and do your best, you will be swimming against the current. My objective now is to find a job with short working hours, no on call or late nights of work, the focus on my free time to learn, work, enjoy and do freelance online business. My last 1 month leave I started enjoying working again, I was working on my own. so by doing this, hopefully, i will get the dot in the middle of the two axis.

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By: Mike Minutillo http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-16454 Mike Minutillo Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:21:11 +0000 http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/#comment-16454 It's scary to read stuff like this and then really, <i>really</i> think about it. Why? Because I think I'm just left of smack dab in the middle of that graph and I'm prety sure I was slipping to the left as well. I am aiming to get back to the light side though as I've been looking for another job. I fell into the trap of doing a demanding job, which got repetitive. I didn't enjoy it anymore and I'm not getting paid enough for it. It doesn't leave me with enough hours in the day to get into the fun stuff which I like to do. My dad said to me once, "don't work for money son, that's the fools way. Do what you love and you'll always get what you need." Since making the choice to leave my current job it's been as if a huge weight has been lifted from my shoulders (cliched I know) and now it is so much easier to deal with. I hadn't realized how soul-crushingly depressed I was until I made that choice either. The signs were all there. I'd would have MSN up when I was at work, and Outlook, and RSS Bandit. I would sit sometimes and stare at the clock in the system tray just waiting for some application to "toast" and provide me with a welcome distraction from dealing with my job tasks. If it didn't happen quickly enough I'd just go WILFing through google. That's not fair on me or the clients I worked with. And it certainly isn't fair for my employer. Now that I've made the choice, I'm more productive at work, I'm participating in some online communities (like this one), my blog is active again, and I'm researching technologies and techniques which interest me. I'm even thinkin about writing an article or two. Perhaps even more important, my family has me back again. I'm slowly becoming the fun-loving guy I was when I first got married and had kids. I haven't been him for nearly a year. Nice to know he wasn't dead. It’s scary to read stuff like this and then really, really think about it. Why? Because I think I’m just left of smack dab in the middle of that graph and I’m prety sure I was slipping to the left as well.

I am aiming to get back to the light side though as I’ve been looking for another job. I fell into the trap of doing a demanding job, which got repetitive. I didn’t enjoy it anymore and I’m not getting paid enough for it. It doesn’t leave me with enough hours in the day to get into the fun stuff which I like to do. My dad said to me once, “don’t work for money son, that’s the fools way. Do what you love and you’ll always get what you need.”

Since making the choice to leave my current job it’s been as if a huge weight has been lifted from my shoulders (cliched I know) and now it is so much easier to deal with. I hadn’t realized how soul-crushingly depressed I was until I made that choice either.

The signs were all there. I’d would have MSN up when I was at work, and Outlook, and RSS Bandit. I would sit sometimes and stare at the clock in the system tray just waiting for some application to “toast” and provide me with a welcome distraction from dealing with my job tasks. If it didn’t happen quickly enough I’d just go WILFing through google.

That’s not fair on me or the clients I worked with. And it certainly isn’t fair for my employer. Now that I’ve made the choice, I’m more productive at work, I’m participating in some online communities (like this one), my blog is active again, and I’m researching technologies and techniques which interest me. I’m even thinkin about writing an article or two.

Perhaps even more important, my family has me back again. I’m slowly becoming the fun-loving guy I was when I first got married and had kids. I haven’t been him for nearly a year. Nice to know he wasn’t dead.

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By: Andrew http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-16432 Andrew Sun, 29 Apr 2007 04:49:44 +0000 http://compsci.ca/blog/my-job-is-more-addictive-than-facebook/#comment-16432 I totally agree. It's hilarious that people ask why you don't use MSN or facebook AT WORK!! With programming, you definitely have to get "in the zone" and not be interrupted, although, sometimes it helps me to take a break, read digg a bit, and then restart fresh. People underestimate how important it is to enjoy what you do at work, I think. In my opinion, people will always do the best at what they really like the most. I totally agree. It’s hilarious that people ask why you don’t use MSN or facebook AT WORK!! With programming, you definitely have to get “in the zone” and not be interrupted, although, sometimes it helps me to take a break, read digg a bit, and then restart fresh. People underestimate how important it is to enjoy what you do at work, I think. In my opinion, people will always do the best at what they really like the most.

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