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Sniper4Life




PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:24 pm   Post subject: Custom PC Creation

Well I haven't logged into CompSci for months now, and I've decided to finally come back to the community, and I'm going to start by creating this topic. OK I'm going to be creating my own custom PC during my summer vacation, and my dad has agreed to buy me all of the parts I'll be needing. I've found some excellent guides, and I found a site called tigerdirect.ca so I'm going to by my parts from the closest Tiger Direct store. I chose all of my parts, and I just need a little bit of help.
First of all, you should know that I know how to take apart and re-assemble a whole PC, and I know all of the steps to create a custom PC.

Steps
-Choose PC parts.
-Buy PC parts.
-Assemble parts inside of case.
-Install OS.
-Install drivers.
-Mainly done Very Happy

I selected all of my parts already and I need some help to check if they are all compatible.

Motherboard and Procesor
Gigabyte EP43-UD3L Motherboard CPU Bundle - Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.80GHz Retail Processor
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4517167&sku=B69-2078

Case
Apevia X-Jupiter Jr.G Type ATX Mid-Tower Case
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3424761&sku=A107-1096

Power Supply
iStarUSA TC-350PD1 350-Watt ATX Switching Power Supply
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3655216&sku=I202-1116

Graphics Card
Galaxy GeForce 8400 GS Video Card
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4353968&sku=G458-8406

Hard Drive
Hitachi 7K1000.B Deskstar Hard Drive
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4632151&sku=TSD-320H3

CD/DVD Drive
LG GH22NS40R DVD Burner
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4502154&sku=L49-1020

RAM
Corsair Dominator Dual Channel 4096MB PC8500 DDR2 1066MHz Memory
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3986479&sku=C13-8060

OK I know that most of the parts are compatible...but what about the power supply? 350 watts seems like a low amount for me. I found the exact same power supply except in 500 watts. So should I go for the 500?
So for everything who's looking at this can you please check if all of these parts are compatible?
And for everyone that helps thank you so much.
I'm going to go buy the parts of Saturday Very Happy
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Sniper4Life




PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:31 pm   Post subject: RE:Custom PC Creation

Also...if you think there is anything I should know about the assembling of the computer, please do write about it.
And if there is something important I didn't mention, please do mention it Very Happy
DemonWasp




PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:02 am   Post subject: RE:Custom PC Creation

Your power supply seems to be on the low end. Keep in mind that you want to run at a maximum of around 85% of your PSU's rated supply. Your processor is rated at (this is from memory) around 130W, and your GFX card is getting close too. Figure 20W for each HDD or optical drive, plus any USB devices, and you could be running dry. Additionally, you need to check that the +12V rail has sufficient current for your graphics card - the g80 and g94 cores were really bad about eating a lot of +12V. Compare the two carefully. You'll probably end up wanting the 500W supply.

The only other trick is that you want to make sure of the following when assembling:

1. Keep yourself grounded! Touch the case frequently.
2. Have compressed air and a selection of screwdrivers handy.
3. Take a deep breath. The computer will get together, you don't have to freak out about it. Take your time and do it right - doing it wrong will create much worse problems down the road.

Edit: Where's your screen?
andrew.




PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:10 am   Post subject: RE:Custom PC Creation

1. A 500W power supply should be the minimum. I always buy a bigger power supply because the last thing you want is for your computer to run lower on power.
2. The video card is decent, but there are a lot of better ones for a good price. This would be a better one IMO if you are willing to spend $6 extra.
Sniper4Life




PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:34 pm   Post subject: RE:Custom PC Creation

OK well I'm planning on upgrading my ram, my hard drive, and my graphics card. I'm just buy a bit lower priced things for now. I might also get a Quad Core later on. Very Happy
Luckily for me the PC is easily upgradable.

OK first of all DemonWasp what is the compressed air for?
I know you ground yourself so you don't shock the pieces but what is compressed air for?
OK for the screen I'm going to be using my Apple Monitor.
OK I don't understand like ANYTHING with the power supplies so could you guys help me with it?
Like explain it a bit for me?

Could i just buy a 700 watt?
Would that fix my problems?
Also if you could...DemonWasp could you look through the Tiger Direct power supplies and like...recommend one for me?
Sniper4Life




PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:38 pm   Post subject: RE:Custom PC Creation

Also...Andrew...like for 8 dollars more I can add fans to my memory.

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3757080&CatId=2261

see ^^
lol but w/e Razz
this is my first custom PC so i DONT wanna screw up
and adding fans to RAM is something im new to...so w/e...
and the ram i have is already good Very Happy
DemonWasp




PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:38 pm   Post subject: RE:Custom PC Creation

The compressed air is for whatever dust you may have in the area. Generally more useful the *second* time you open the case, but it can't hurt to have it around the first time. Plus, I posted that at 3am local time, so that may have factored in.

There's only a few things you have to understand about power supplies to get a good one:

1. Check the rated power of your CPU and GPU (these will be measured in Watts, W). Add these together and then add 100W for good measure. Buy the next step up from whatever you arrive at or higher. You will almost certainly want 500W. There is no limit to how big of a PSU you can buy, but they get expensive so don't go for too much headspace. If you think you're going to upgrade, either budget for a PSU upgrade, or buy a larger one off the start.

2. You need to check the available amperage on the +12V rail and compare it to what is required by your GPU. The GPU you have listed is so weak, however, that you should be fine with any 500W PSU. If you were going for a beefier card (8800, 9800, 2xx GTX series...) then you'd need to pay close attention.

3. If you can, get a high-efficiency one: less heat, less power consumed, less noise.
Sniper4Life




PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:28 pm   Post subject: RE:Custom PC Creation

OK...well I think I might just go along with a 700 watt.

Also...I was looking at this one other hard drive.
I don't know whether I should stick with my current hard drive, or choose this other one.

Current
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4632151&sku=TSD-320H3

New
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2928334&CatId=2458

250 gigs is definitely enough for me, especially since I plan on upgrading. So speed is definitely more important for me. So should I get the new one?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:53 pm   Post subject: RE:Custom PC Creation

How much does that PC come up to if you don't mind me asking. The one in your first post.
Sniper4Life




PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:08 pm   Post subject: RE:Custom PC Creation

$1000 Sad
i also need to buy windows xp and other software...so itll go up to like 1300 Sad

more....Sad
and im gonna upgrade it later on Very Happy
get an expensive video card...add more ram...
and ya Very Happy
syntax_error




PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:19 pm   Post subject: RE:Custom PC Creation

instead of xp, if your really BUYING an OS buy windows 7 for $45 at Costco. A) its cheap B) its a 64 bit OS, you are getting 4GB of ram you kinda need a 64 bit OS for that.

Better yet, save all money on software of any kind, go open open sourced with everything; then if you really want to pay for your software update later, but for the moment get a better PC, imho.
Sniper4Life




PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:33 pm   Post subject: RE:Custom PC Creation

the PC im currently getting is fine O.O
to me it seems pretty danm good
very easily upgradable... Very Happy

also
with 32 bit you CAN get 4 gigs of ram
and there isnt enough support for 64 bits
barely any software runs on it so ima stick with 32 bit....

im gonna have my friend help me with the power supply part...cus im not sure what power supply to get...Sad

btw....look at my above post...
should i get the new drive or the old one?
Insectoid




PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:43 pm   Post subject: RE:Custom PC Creation

Building a computer isn't nearly as hard as it's made out to be. I'm going to assume you've taken just about every piece out of a computer, so you know where it all goes.

To get great start-up times, I would get a small (40-80g) SSD for the Windows install and games, as the SSD will load these faster. For data, pictures & movies I'd use a 250-500g hard drive, because these take a lot more space. This is nit-picky though and mostly because it's cool.
Sniper4Life




PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:47 pm   Post subject: RE:Custom PC Creation

insectoid ya Very Happy
ive taken apart and reassembled a whole computer
was easy
sept for the frikin case ><
i took apart most of the case...and it was like a dinosaur computer...so it was HARD to reassemble the case...Sad

btw....i found a new power supply
i think its compatible O.O
but w/e
it took me FOREVER to find a power supply that would work for me

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276567&Sku=ULT-LSP750

edit:
can you tell me if it IS compatible?
and if its right for me?

second edit:

i also found this one...
and it seems pretty danm good as well Very Happy

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4435075&CatId=2533
andrew.




PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:05 pm   Post subject: Re: RE:Custom PC Creation

syntax_error @ Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:19 pm wrote:
buy windows 7 for $45 at Costco.
Or you could just sign up for the release candidate from MS for free.
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