Time Travel

[Dauntless]

Here's an interesting (i think so ) point.

When you go to sleep, you lose sense of time, so in your frame of reference, you travelled forward in time without spending any time to do so.

You could say that if someone watched you sleep, they would prove that you did not actually travel forward in time, that you were in front of them all the time that you claimed you were traveling in time. Like Asok/Martin said (hehehe, Dan) to travel to the future or past, you need to travel through the points of time (e.g. (0,0) to (1,0)), this is essentially mental time travel right? You just hafta figure out how to go backwards, or travel so that your body does not age as you travel.

Also, could it be that since birth humans have only learned to sleep time forwards? More simply, they have only learned to sleep to advance time mentally? Perhaps somewhere, there are people who sleep to advance time backwards, so in their frame of reference it would be going forwards.

What if every person exists in a reality of their own creation? A personal Matrix, you might say. I, Dauntless, have fabricated every single event and person in the world; the people I have never seen, I can't really prove that they're there. Maybe when I sleep, there really is nothing around me, and that I am actually travelling through time. Maybe my mind is not powerful enough to change my reality for the better, and that my Matrix tells me that this is real.

Finally, we can't talk about time travel intelligently, because it's all theoretical. When we make a positive statement, we are basing it on the speculation of others. When you cite an equation, you are basing it on the reality of the world around us as it is. We have time paradoxes because we don't yet have the terms to describe events and situations. How can we describe time when all our lives we have not been conditioned to be able to control time? Think of it like this; if you were an omniscient being, able to see everything at the same time, it would be impossible to say with irrefutable evidence that their perspective would be any one way. Humans don't have the vocabulary; our eyes are in the front of our heads, and so the way our eyes are pointed is forward, we invented left and right, up and down. We can't use directions to say what the omniscient being sees; he/she/it sees everything. The closest we can approximate is that he/she/it sees 360 degrees in the vertical and horizontal planes, and can see everything at any distance, from its front, back, left, inside, outside, etc.; we can't describe seeing everything at every distance, because we have never thought of things that way, and our minds are not evolved to.

So is time travel possible? My lengthy post has all led up to this. My opinion is that it is, just not in the way you think it is. That statement applies to any way you can think of it . Like in the book Timeline by Crichton, maybe its not a matter of traveling in time, but a matter of traveling to a different possibility. Maybe every single possible event in our time is happening right now, and we need only to find a means to travel to one of these frames.

If you can piece together all the points I was trying to pack together, I think you can get some kind of picture. Some kind of deep picture. .

- Dauntless the Deep

P.S. I've gotta get some kinda award for such a long (not to mention deep) non-spam post....Add me into the award's ceremony, baby/Hacker Dan!

[Tony]

that about inatomate objects traveling though time as well? If you let a block of wood just lie there, it will age too (carbon decay). So I dont think our mind has much to do with it

[Dauntless]

Essentially though, to a limited extent, sleeping is time travel right? Or at least you could saaaay that it is...

P.S. That's all you have to say about the pageful of insight i have?

[Dan]

To Tony: oh but it has everything to do with your mind. We only expercen reality thougth our mind so at some subcontiones level you could covince your self that the wood did travel fowered in time then in at least your realtiy it has.

[Tony]

speaking of realities... matrix IS possible... maybe not multiplayer though

all you really got to do is stimulate nerves when they're needed to be. There was this one blind guy who got implanted with a small vid cam in his eye and he was able to see... not clearly, but like not total darkness ether.

What if you were a part of same crazy matrix research experiment? Like an actual matrix, but you're the only one there who doesnt know it is so. Kind of like "the trueman's show". All the other people you come across are ether suffisticated AIs or scientists logged in though virtual suits or what not.

Point is - to the person that will be THE reality, and you can mess up with environments code to make it do all the crazy stuff.

I donno... doesn't really have much of a point, or whatever... makes a good story idea... PATTENT PENDING - DONT TOUCH 8)

[shorthair]

JUST WATCH TH SIMPSONS EPP WHERE OMER GOES BACK IN TIME ,,......IT SOLVES ALLL PROBLEMS

[Rudiger]

ok there are two ways that you can travel through time

1- you buy alot of durgs and i mean alot of it. i say you buy about 100 punds of weed or alot of acid. you take the drugs and you site back a relax. You may die, but it well be a happy death.

2-heres my other idea.
things you need
-2 by 4 ora heavy peaice of metal of wood.
-rope or a freind
direaction
you take you 2by4 and your freaind and tell him to smack you in the face. once he hits you. you be out cooled and you can travel through time. sooo...

so you can try it, but not alot of people listen to me.

[roer]

If as humans we do reach a point where we can manipulate time I doubt that it would screw us over...I believe in fate thats why So, if someone travels back in time and screws everything up they were meant to do that so history would not recourse...however travelling in the future is physically impossible. We'd have to hop dimeonsions in order to go to the future...something that will not be happening anytime soon...unless *thinks of Half-Life*

[Tony]

heh... reminds me of the movie Timeline, where that artheologist (ehh... old stuff digging guy) discoveres his own tomb because later on he goes into past and dies

So umm... thats where that paradox kicks in, that's suppost to make all things messy if one was to "change" the course of action that directly prevents that person from commuting such act in first place - such as killing your parents before your birth. Go figure.

[Rudiger]

ok if we go back in time you know how much power you are need. you have to get that engine of homeworld what is like 1000000000000000000000000000000 tons so you cant do it . so you need a good power supply to do it so. but if the machine gets bigger your going to need moe power so its like a one way trip.

will you can travel thorgh time thou only to the future. you need to be in a coma (gut it of 28 days later )or you get frozn like that dude in star wars ( i hate star wars ). so you can only go to the future but not to the past.
and if you did somehting like the simpsons. with homer and the time machine (all laughts)

[Tony]

whats that comment about spending 28 days in coma? The dude from the movie "28 days later" was in a comma for that long, but I though it was just some random number they made up

[rizzix]

tony wrote:

speaking of realities... matrix IS possible... maybe not multiplayer though

hehe is that a joke? actually it's not possible. no matter what mode u wanna play in.

u can't be born in a virtual universe .. if u think about it.. u'll see why the matrix is not possible.

i can understand u r born then eventually enter a virtual universe.. (speaking of which, u must be a verry depressed person)

[Thuged_Out_G]

Rudiger wrote:

ok there are two ways that you can travel through time

1- you buy alot of durgs and i mean alot of it. i say you buy about 100 punds of weed or alot of acid. you take the drugs and you site back a relax. You may die, but it well be a happy death.

how the hell does 100 pounds of weed allow you to travel through time?

you would puke and fall asleep before even smoking one pound(constant...no breaks)...a pound is 16 ounces....there is 28 grams to an once...thats 448 grams of weed per pound...you can get min 3 joints per gram, thats 1344 joints per pound...ill guess, and say it would take you 3(approx) mins to smoke one joint. thats 4032 mins(67.2 hrs) per pound...and 403200 mins(670.20 hrs) to smoke 100 pounds of weed....you couldnt smoke 100 pounds if you wanted to....acid on the other hand, that would be a little easier lol

[Rudiger]

yeah thanx for the lesson thug out g (what ever that means)....
ok im just saying about the coma thing that you dont remeber nothing when your in a coma your blacked out and time just goes by wiht you not knowing about it. i just referanceing somehting form a moive what i seen like 4 times and in my head all the itme

[Rudiger]

wait wait i dont get one thing rozer said i qoute from roeer "unless *thinks of Half-Life* " it does that mean. an dyou better not say hl is a bad game if you are saying that i have to hurt you.
plase explan to me...