----------------------------------- Martin Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:23 pm The Economics of Open Source ----------------------------------- http://www.adage.com/news.cms?newsId=46329 Login with advertiser9:bummer Thanks to bugmenot. ----------------------------------- lyam_kaskade Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:09 pm ----------------------------------- Interesting read, except that it was littered with what appear to be Microsoft "smart quotes" (A bit ironic). Relates to what I've been thinking for awhile now, that the Open Source model could be applied to other industries. Music, for example. On a similar topic, [url=www.harveydanger.com]Harvey Danger released an album completely for free recently. It made me think of Open Source (the concept, not their music). ----------------------------------- StarGateSG-1 Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:06 am ----------------------------------- WoW, That was a ncie articale, it really opened up alot of question for companies to consider. I think thatb aritcle should be in every newspaper in the world, well of course besides china and other such states. I think it is a ratical idea, but were wouls we be without radical idea's. Newtom never would have written the prinpica I, II, III. There are so many inventings and discoveries that were made off radial idea's. ----------------------------------- codemage Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:39 pm ----------------------------------- Here's a mirror (I think) for those who don't like registering to read news: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:7Bv0LOJeDwIJ:www.concretewavemagazine.com/+INSIDE+THE+NEW+WORLD+OF+LISTENOMICS&hl=en Oh... and how many people do you think check non-biased online reviews of products before they buy? I certainly do. Consumer report, epinions, and gamerankings.com have saved me money & griefl. ----------------------------------- Tony Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:02 pm ----------------------------------- Here's a mirror (I think) for those who don't like registering to read news: Thanks to ----------------------------------- codemage Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:32 pm ----------------------------------- Awesome. Bookmarked. Thx. ----------------------------------- beard0 Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:56 pm ----------------------------------- Bookmarked. Use Firefox and grab the bugmenot extension. :wink: ----------------------------------- 1of42 Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:02 pm ----------------------------------- WoW, That was a ncie articale, it really opened up alot of question for companies to consider. I think thatb aritcle should be in every newspaper in the world, well of course besides china and other such states. I think it is a ratical idea, but were wouls we be without radical idea's. Newtom never would have written the prinpica I, II, III. There are so many inventings and discoveries that were made off radial idea's. You're not Dan, don't spell like him. ----------------------------------- StarGateSG-1 Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:09 am ----------------------------------- Dan isn't the only one with bad spelling, well for me I suck keyboarding! so shut it. Why would i wnat to be DAn, Dan is nice an all but he is not me we are different with the same problem. ----------------------------------- lyam_kaskade Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:26 am ----------------------------------- Dan isn't the only one with bad spelling, I think we've had this discussion, Dan doesn't have "bad spelling". Dan is dyslexic. ----------------------------------- Tony Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:37 pm ----------------------------------- Dan isn't the only one with bad spelling, I think we've had this discussion, Dan doesn't have "bad spelling". Dan is dyslexic. And he still makes a great programmer, so lets drop this, ok? ----------------------------------- 1of42 Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:44 pm ----------------------------------- Dan isn't the only one with bad spelling, well for me I suck keyboarding! so shut it. Why would i wnat to be DAn, Dan is nice an all but he is not me we are different with the same problem. So slow down and take some time to be coherent. I can accept misspelling when people have actual legitimate reasons for it - like Dan, who obviously does. You don't. So slow down, and spell right. ----------------------------------- md Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:52 pm ----------------------------------- And then this guy hit his head and I laughed... Back on topic... The one thing I don't like about open source is the miriade of splits. Like there are a million linux distributions, and yet most are very similar. ----------------------------------- wtd Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:05 pm ----------------------------------- Back on topic... The one thing I don't like about open source is the miriade of splits. Like there are a million linux distributions, and yet most are very similar. Would you prefer maybe four or five distros at most? And then when you can't find one that meets your needs quite right, what do you do? Oh, right... you create your own distro. Hmmm... maybe there's a reason there are so many. :) ----------------------------------- md Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:40 pm ----------------------------------- I'm not saying that more distros is bad... just that I think there might be a few many... I also don't like the fact that if I write some kick ass program under most licences (GPL, etc.) others may take my work and then change and add to it, when I may not want it to have the program go in that direction. ----------------------------------- beard0 Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:13 pm ----------------------------------- If you don't want it to take that direction, then don't take it there. Leave it the way you want it on your computer. But why stop someone else from building on what you've created to suit their needs? How does that hurt you? ----------------------------------- lyam_kaskade Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:25 pm ----------------------------------- I'm not saying that more distros is bad... just that I think there might be a few many... I also don't like the fact that if I write some kick ass program under most licences (GPL, etc.) others may take my work and then change and add to it, when I may not want it to have the program go in that direction. Isn't that sort of what happened with Debian, Ian Murdock, and the DCCA? And now we have Ubuntu. :) ----------------------------------- md Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:52 pm ----------------------------------- I'm not saying it's bad for other people's stuff... it's just that I'm not sure if I want MY stuff to end up like that, it's one of irreconsilable things... like music; If I was an artist I wouldn't want people downloading mine, I'd want them to buy it but as a consumer I prefer to just download it. ----------------------------------- beard0 Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:59 pm ----------------------------------- Wow, a hypocrite. ----------------------------------- md Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:03 pm ----------------------------------- Damn strait! I want my cake and I'm gonna eat it too! Besides... there's nothing wrong with hipocracy so long as you admit to it... ----------------------------------- Martin Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:43 pm ----------------------------------- I don't have any problem with people taking my code, so long as I get my name somewhere in the credits. ----------------------------------- wtd Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:05 am ----------------------------------- If you build something, and don't want it being taken in a certain direction, you just can't open source it. But if there's really enough demand for features that you don't like, there's a good chance people are going to ditch your product eventually. Adapt or die. It's the way of the business world. Open source just mitigates the devastation that death leaves in its wake. Consider, if people ditched Windows in sufficient numbers that Microsoft just closed up shop... the whole thing would be lost. Every bit of code, even some bits that might be good would be utterly lost. With OSS, let's say people started ditching Linux in droves. Even with the "death" of Linux, pieces of the kernel could be salvaged and used to enrich whatever takes its place. ----------------------------------- beard0 Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:42 pm ----------------------------------- Wtd: A very good point. Also: wtd CompSci God Congrats on the new status: you are now your own person, and a god at that - hooray! ----------------------------------- codemage Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:51 pm ----------------------------------- 'Gratz. I'm counting the days until I can get a promotion to whatever is slightly above supreme newbcake in the local CompSci universe. :cry: CompSci minion? The only thing that bugs me a bit about open source, is when corporations profit from it. Star Office, i.e., is build 95% from the Open Office project, with a few extra libraries, clipart, and fonts, etc, etc. The extra material hardly justifies the distribution cost, $70 USD, considering the distribution consists of providing a link on a website. If I were a programming contributor, I'd want a piece of that. ----------------------------------- Mazer Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:52 pm ----------------------------------- How did you even get that? ----------------------------------- wtd Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:54 pm ----------------------------------- Thanks all. codemage, "Newbe Hacker" begins at 128 posts. ----------------------------------- Tony Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:58 pm ----------------------------------- he has an overwrite though. post count doesn't apply