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Token
Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:06 am

Compsci downtime+roll back+eveything_else_compsci
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wow, we lost a lot of stuff! I think all the way back before school started! Still no news post, I'm sure we can expect one coming. Anyone know what happened?

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StarGateSG-1
Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:29 am


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:x Damn, Damn, Damn! :x 

No clue what happened.
It wasn't the same problems before, that was just over crowding right?

We did lose alot of good stuff to.

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jamonathin
Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:46 am


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Yeah we did lose a few things, but it's no biggie.  Everyone probabily got the information they were looking for, they juss cant look back on it :?.

Oh well . .

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Tony
Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:14 am


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Well everything since the 14th.. so about 5 day's worth of. Crap.

Last rollback crash was just 3 months ago. And 6 months prior to that we've been DoSed and taken down for over a week. Damn it. Expect the next downtime to be in... 1.5 months? :? @#$% :evil:

I'm looking at some site stats

Disk usage  	1262.88 Megabytes
SQL Disk usage 	106.23 Megabytes
Disk space available 	785.12 Megabytes
Bandwidth usage (current month) 	7.39 Megabytes

Looks like our host has reset (or simply lost) bandwidth counter. Anyways..

Who's in favour of moving everything to [url=http://textdrive.com/]TextDrive? I have just 1GB of disk space and will be hosting other projects there as well. Though compsci's MySQL is just 100 MB. I'm not sure how we have over 1GB of files. I believe that at least half of those are Dan's personal anyways.

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StarGateSG-1
Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:16 am


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Thats not a bad idea, even 40$ a month isn't bad, there must be hundreds of active users that even if everyoen gave 1 or 2 dollars every few months we can be set for years to come.

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wtd
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:46 am


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The problem is... who do you trust to collect any funds?  Does compsci.ca incorporate as a non-profit?

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StarGateSG-1
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:50 am


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Ya, I know what you mean, did you see that post about who to trust, the sites finance guy stole the crash and hacked thr site.

I guess you could always set up a paypal account and then have it wired directly to an account which then a host site who be sent moneyu every month by computers.

But then there is the non-profit part! I am not sure about that.

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wtd
Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:02 am


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Well, a few compsci.ca veterans get together, form a company, get a bank account that belongs strictly to that company rather than any one of them individually.  Members of the site then send funds to that company.

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StarGateSG-1
Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:11 am


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That would work, put then who would form it?

Maybe it should be like a board of directors that are elected, that would be interesting.

No we can't do that, then someone whom has real people skills could join and get a postion on the board, if we did that then you would need to have requirments.

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wtd
Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:23 am


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It'd likely be a Limited Liability Partnership/Company formed by three or four people, not the community as a whole.

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StarGateSG-1
Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:43 pm


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Ya, that wopuld be best, it would be like Tony,HackerDan,wtd and someone else like another good mod.

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Tony
Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:59 pm


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Or I just take on a dictatorship position.. whatever works best :twisted:

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Token
Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:22 pm


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Or I just take on a dictatorship position.. whatever works best :twisted:

Hah, you go for it Tony, I'd support you, providing theres somthing in it for me  :lol: 

Well switching hosts sounds like the thing to do, or maybe some sort of backup if these are planned downtimes, and if you do have knowlege of these downtimes, could you let us know? because if we have good conversation going we could always save off what everyone said and just paste it back out of a text editor after into one window.

heres an idea, maybe we could get a University or college to host. Would that be possible? just a thought...

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Tony
Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:59 pm


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Hah, you go for it Tony, I'd support you, providing theres somthing in it for me  :lol: 
You get to keep your account :twisted: 

I don't believe those are planned downtowns, else the host would make more recent backups.

And we'd need to start an officially recognized club at the University before even asking for hosting. I suppose it could be possible at Waterloo when enough members make it here. Though even then we'd have to locate a dedicated box to run.

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Token
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:10 pm


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I don't believe those are planned downtowns

Hah, downtowns, all of the sudden the movie Without a Paddle comes to mind. I plan to go to Waterloo, I'm really trying to do good this year and get good grades. Is it hard to get in? what were ur marks when you were accepted?

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[Gandalf]
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:24 pm


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DAMN! :evil:

We should really have backups more often.  I might be willing to do one, but I'm not sure I know how to set something automatic up, and I'm not sure if I would be able to.

Next time I know that when the site is down for 4+ hours it's a rollback :(.

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ZeroPaladn
Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:31 pm


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youve just got to wonder how much space it would take to back up ALL of the files on Compsci.ca. Good luck with that.

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[Gandalf]
Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:48 pm


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I heard it was around 1gb?  And that's with a bunch of stuff that isn't directly related to compsci.  It might have been 4, but either way it's not overly that much...

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Martin
Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:49 pm


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If anyone were to collaborate to pay for compsci, it'd be the admins. There are too many issues with collecting money online from the userbase. If you want to contribute, post things or bash Apple.

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beard0
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:15 pm


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or bash Apple.
Haha, trying to spread the flame war to another thread are we?

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rizzix
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:16 pm


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psst. c'mon.. can't you read his title...  :wink:

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wtd
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:20 pm


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MAC people r ghay!!!!11!1

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rizzix
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:22 pm


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rofl.. martin!!!

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beard0
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:24 pm


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MAC people r ghay!!!!11!1
Wow. That was so insightful.

Thank you for making me see the light. Apple has never done anything interesting and there certainly has never been anything interesting done with Apple software and hardware by third parties.

;)

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Token
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:31 pm


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The funny thing is that these people that bash Macs (most of them anyways) have probibly never used a Mac, and by used I don't mean spent a half hour cursing at the mouse, but actually spent hours working on one. they're really actually quite good once you get used to working with them. Although a some programs can't run on them, they're being made much more compadable and efficent as time goes by. 

Apple has never done anything interesting and 

I'd imagine that was sarcasm, but just one word...  iPod

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wtd
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:32 pm


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I dont no why MAC even keeps making crapple computers.  i shouldn't even call them computers...  They dont even use teh RAMS.

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rizzix
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:34 pm


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thats too 733T for /\/\3   :mrgreen:

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beard0
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:34 pm


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Apple has never done anything interesting and 
I'd imagine that was sarcasm, but just one word...  iPod

It was definately sarcasm, and the person that wrote it was wtd :lol:

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rizzix
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:44 pm


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Tech Support: "OK Bob, let's press the control and escape keys at the same time. That brings up a task list in the middle of the screen. Now type the letter 'P' to bring up the Program Manager."
Customer: "I don't have a 'P'."
Tech Support: "On your keyboard, Bob."
Customer: "What do you mean?"
Tech Support: "'P' on your keyboard, Bob."
Customer: "I'm not going to do that!"

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wtd
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:46 pm


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iPod

Ipods suck!

They dont eevn come with an FM tuner.  I cant listen to teh top 40 with orignal static!!!

and you can only put music on from crappy Itunes music shack!  Why should I pay 99 cents a song for muzik i already have on cd?

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Mr. T
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:51 pm

Alex's Opinion
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iPod Why should I pay 99 cents a song for muzik i already have on cd?
It's part of being up-to-date with all the newest technology.  :?

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rizzix
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:52 pm


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MAC people r ghay!!!!11!1

I dont no why MAC even keeps making crapple computers. i shouldn't even call them computers... They dont even use teh RAMS.

Ipods suck!

They dont eevn come with an FM tuner.  I cant listen to teh top 40 with orignal static!!!

and you can only put music on from crappy Itunes music shack!  Why should I pay 99 cents a song for muzik i already have on cd?


[url=http://news.com.com/Are+Mac+users+smarter/2100-1040_3-943519.html]C|net Article

damn.. what were they studying..  :P :lol:

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wtd
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:55 pm

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iPod Why should I pay 99 cents a song for muzik i already have on cd?
It's part of being up-to-date with all the newest technology.  :?

I was being sarcastic.

I was pointing out the misconception many people have that you can only put iTMS music on the iPod.  In fact, you can use music from many sources, and in many formats.  Certainly you can load music ripped from a CD onto an iPod and listen to it.

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Token
Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:11 pm


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Hah, I never said that iPods are the very best, but they are one of the top selling mp3 devices, and WTD is right, you can upload music from other sources, if you had to pay 99cents per song they wouldent be so goddamn expensive. I personally just use my cd walkman, disks CD-R's are about 30cents if you buy them in bulk and they work just fine for me.

okay lets try somthing, next time you bash mac, post how many hours you've spent on a mac, I've spent maybe over 30 hours on the macs at school, and personally I dont like them as much as my pc but they are very nice machines. I'm just curious how many of you are just blowing smoke. but I guess Ignorance is bliss  :lol:

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wtd
Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:14 pm


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they are one of the top selling mp3 devices

They are the best selling portable music playing device.

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rizzix
Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:08 am


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okay lets try somthing, next time you bash mac, post how many hours you've spent on a mac, I've spent maybe over 30 hours on the macs at school, and personally I dont like them as much as my pc but they are very nice machines. I'm just curious how many of you are just blowing smoke. but I guess Ignorance is bliss  :lol:

In total, I've spent a couple of years now.. 6 i think.. and i love them. IMHO it pwns the pc anyday... (once you get used to it, you'd never want to switch back, well except to play some games)

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StarGateSG-1
Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:23 am


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I think anyone who bashes apples is nothing, I agree with token you are spewing smoke, and have most likely never used for for longer than to get mad at it over the start. I used apples for every, although I like gaming so I have windows computer as well, but when it comes to graphics and video editing I can't beat a MAC. I have never had a problem that I didn't create myself. On the other hand windows gives me so much trouble. you can get emulators for MAC's but they aren't good. The MAC help is sooooooooooo good! they walk you through so nicely, even my dad can work on one easy.

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Tony
Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:13 am


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hey, maybe we can through in some statistics in here. Everybody's favourite "anything" analizer -- Google's "love/hate" searches. Here's how it works: search for "I love " and then "I hate " and compare the results.

subject  |  love  |  hate  |  L/H ratio
windows : 26,100 : 45,500 : 0.57
linux : 58,700 : 20,800 : 2.82
mac : 63,300 : 10,100 : 6.26

now don't go searching for "apple", though it's still better than windows :lol: 
______________________

Games -- Macs satisfy my gaming requirements. All Blizzard games (StarCraft, Diablo II, World of Warcraft), Unreal Tournament. There're many others. Besides the games I play most are best played in an arcade or on a console (DDR anyone?)
______________________

The only substantial argument against Macs is that there's no OSX native AutoCAD. Oh wait, [url=http://www.alias.com/eng/products-services/maya/system_requirements.shtml]Maya runs on OSX (and linux for that matter)
 :lol:

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codemage
Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:07 pm


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Well... this is almost out of context at this point, so I'll segue with:

Ipods are ridiculously overpriced, and I hate them fiercely because I don't have one.

...and now the segue back to the original thread subject...

Just like I haven't had a login again, since every time I've registered for the site, I've been erased by a rollback. :cry: 

...I now return you to your thread-in-progress:  Ipods suck.

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Tony
Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:22 pm


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...I now return you to your thread-in-progress:  Ipods suck.
Way to make an argument.


Ipods are ridiculously overpriced
You're trying too hard to be funny. At $129, Shuffle is one of the cheapest MP3 players out there in its class. Actually I think that every iPod (other than Nano perhaps) are very compeditavly priced in their respective configuration levels.

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StarGateSG-1
Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:24 pm


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I speak for aleast me and maybe others?

BUT HuH!!

What do you mean?

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codemage
Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:54 pm


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It's been a bit of a long day for me to be picky about word choice, so I'll concede the point:  shuffles aren't "ridiculously overpriced".  They're just seriously underfeatured.  For the same price you can get a player (pick your alternative brand) with the same storage, a screen, and actual track navigation.

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rizzix
Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:55 pm


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..and same size?

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codemage
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:01 pm


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Same.

Check FutureShop, for example.  (I've masked the links in case the admin prefer not to have links to external commercial sites - replace the "xx" in hxxp with a copy & paste).

Creative Labs MuVo
hxxp://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10052802&catid=10205&logon=&langid=EN

Shuffle
hxxp://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10056434&catid=22353&logon=&langid=EN

Same exact price and MB size.  The product from Creative is superior in almost every single other category.

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rizzix
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:10 pm


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i dunno but..

supported formats =  AAC (16 to 320 Kbps), Protected AAC (from iTunes Music Store), MP3 (16 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Audible (formats 2, 3 and 4), Apple Lossless, AIFF and WAV (and  non-DRMed WMA)

weight = 22.1g

supported OS's= Win2000/XP/Mac OS X ver.(1,2,3,4)/Linux

versus.

supported formats = just MP3, WMA 

weight = 80g

supporte OS's = Win98SE/2000/Me/XP only 

is not a very good comparison of features..

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wtd
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:14 pm


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rizzix, you should add non-DRMed WMA to the Shuffle's capabilities, since iTunes can convert WMA to AAC.

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Mazer
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:21 pm


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supported OS's= Win2000/XP/Mac OS X ver.(1,2,3,4)/Linux
supporte OS's = Win98SE/2000/Me/XP only 

Why bother comparing this? According to the technical geniuses that made my optical mouse, it only works with Windows98/ME/2000/XP.

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rizzix
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:22 pm


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ehm... i'm confused.. what do you mean.

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Mazer
Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:09 pm


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For something like that, it's generally pointless to compare what OSs support it. Most mice you find will say Microsoft Windows is required, even though most well known Operating Systems can use it just fine. Same for portable MP3 players, right?

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rizzix
Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:11 pm


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actually i don't think so.. you need special driver support... unless ofcourse the mp3 player can act like a usb drive..

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Mazer
Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:14 pm


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But isn't that what most of them do? It seems like the easiest way they would make it, since it would mean the player shows up as a removable drive in Windows Explorer and people could just drag and drop their music.

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Token
Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:14 pm


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as far as i've seen most all of them do.

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Mazer
Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:17 pm


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Yeah, I've only got three different player's upon which to base my assumption, but "Anything else would be uncivilized."

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rizzix
Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:21 pm


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well then.. my mistake.. i should have know.

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Dan
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:28 pm


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Any how, geting back to the topic.

Switching hosts has been sugested many times but it is alot more work then any one realzies. 1st we need to find a good host, now lets define a "good host"

1. Not your firends hosting comapy witch he runs out of his basment

2. Not you or your firends computer or pc that can atack as a host

3. Not a univiresty or school hosting service

4. Not cheap hosts that will disapre over night, ie. most free ones

5. Nothing with adds

6. At least 4GB space

7. At least 25GB bandwith a month

8. php, mysql, full ftp, cpanle is helpfull, phpmyadmin, ect

9. unix or linux based, no windows, maybe mac

10. has to alow up to 50 users at a time

11. at least basick contorles over the unix system it is runing on, ie cron jobs, access controles, ip bans.

12. unlmited emails

13. unlmited redirects

14. unlmisted databases in mysql

15. ruby on rails suport or the power to put it in whould be a very big pluse.

16. there rules have to alow for a site like ours in all ways

17. Good coustmer support at all times and dates

18. Good security

19. Has to be fast, in processing and in conection speed

20. located in canada, on whould be perfureable


Now if we can find a host that meants all thos, then i will put the effort in to move the site, witch is a tone of work aucatly due to the size of the db.

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Tony
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:31 pm


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why do we need 4GB of space?

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Dan
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:32 pm


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i am thinking of futtuer expansion, all thos user posted files are not going to get smaller just bigger...

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Mazer
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:33 pm


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I haven't really got anything useful to contribute here, but I'm just curious: how much of that list is covered by the current host?

Also, around how much space is taken up by all of the posts and users in the database (not counting any file attachments)?

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Tony
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:35 pm


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TextDrive covers everything but 4GB space. I dont think we need that much.

Our database is 100MB in size.

I have a hunch that compiled turing uploads make up a bulk next to Dan's uploads.

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Dan
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:37 pm


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the bold ones are covered by the curent host:

1. Not your firends hosting comapy witch he runs out of his basment

2. Not you or your firends computer or pc that can atack as a host

3. Not a univiresty or school hosting service

4. Not cheap hosts that will disapre over night, ie. most free ones

5. Nothing with adds

6. At least 4GB space (it is not 4GB but could be upgreated to witch i am thinking about)


7. At least 25GB bandwith a month (or at least it is close to this)

8. php, mysql, full ftp, cpanle is helpfull, phpmyadmin, ect

9. unix or linux based, no windows, maybe mac

10. has to alow up to 50 users at a time

11. at least basick contorles over the unix system it is runing on, ie cron jobs, access controles, ip bans.

12. unlmited emails

13. unlmited redirects

14. unlmisted databases in mysql

15. ruby on rails suport or the power to put it in whould be a very big pluse.

16. there rules have to alow for a site like ours in all ways

17. Good coustmer support at all times and dates

18. Good security (could be deatable but most seucity problems were due to phpbb)

19. Has to be fast, in processing and in conection speed

20. located in canada, on whould be perfureable 


I will look up the other data u asked for........

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Mazer
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:43 pm


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Alright, thanks. One more thing (I know I've asked this before, but... I'm getting old, damnit!), what was so wrong about it being hosted on University servers? I always thought it'd be safe to assume they'd be pretty reliable, would probably have lots of space, and bandwidth shouldn't be an issue. As an added bonus, if you needed to talk to them about something, you could do so in person as opposed to sending an email or waiting for them to answer a phone call.

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Dan
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:47 pm


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TextDrive covers everything but 4GB space. I dont think we need that much.

Our database is 100MB in size.

I have a hunch that compiled turing uploads make up a bulk next to Dan's uploads.

Realy? well unforntly that 4gb is a big one on the list, i will look in to them if u can give me a link.

Also for the recored my files only take up 348mb, and they inculde files or parts of the site and for other users on the site then just me. Also they inculded files that are runing other sites and serivces for not just site but some of our afflites and partnerships.

the user files uploaded throw phpbb take up 320mb, the mail system is using 295.70mb, our log files take up 80mb, there is about another 100~200mb in scripts, images and such that are runing the site, the user posts (when gziped as they are in the db) take up 104.1 MB. But there are other dbs and stuff that take up more space in mysql.

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Andy
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:49 pm


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back onto mp3 players.. i currently own the new sony NWE507-S, the one with OLE.. its beautiful, i noe that its heavy as hell, but the screen is just too damn attractive. I dont mind an ipod shuffle, but i really wanted an fm tuner in my player, and i didnt want to get a hard drive player because i use it when i work out and i dont like to hear remixes of my songs everytime i run. Also, it has an lithium Ion battery that lasts up to 50 hours.. i usually get around 35 for about an hour and half of charge. the only bad thing is it wont allow direct encoding... and u have to use sonic stage to transfer files... :evil:

 http://www.sonystyle.ca/common/images/slideshow/NWE507S_en_1.jpg     http://www.sonystyle.ca/common/images/slideshow/NWE507S_en_2.jpg
http://www.sonystyle.ca/common/images/slideshow/NWE507S_en_3.jpg     http://www.sonystyle.ca/common/images/slideshow/NWE507S_en_4.jpg
http://www.sonystyle.ca/common/images/slideshow/NWE507S_en_5.jpg     http://www.sonystyle.ca/common/images/slideshow/NWE507S_en_6.jpg
http://www.sonystyle.ca/common/images/slideshow/NWE507S_en_7.jpg

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Dan
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:51 pm


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Alright, thanks. One more thing (I know I've asked this before, but... I'm getting old, damnit!), what was so wrong about it being hosted on University servers? I always thought it'd be safe to assume they'd be pretty reliable, would probably have lots of space, and bandwidth shouldn't be an issue. As an added bonus, if you needed to talk to them about something, you could do so in person as opposed to sending an email or waiting for them to answer a phone call.

1. they can termiante serivce at any time with out warning

2. if u get kicked out of uni or finshed uni your acount is terminated, some times instatly with out warning.

3. most unis aucatly do not give u that much space nor the php and mysql suport we need. Also they ushely cap bandwith or just shut u down when u hit so much.

also breaks thess rules i posted: 3, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and maybe 19, 17, 4 depending on how u see it

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Dan
Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:09 pm


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I found a host that i think i like and we maybe chaging to if the borad agreas with me on this. It compleys to my guild lines other then 15 and 20.

The satas are:

Disk Space/Bandwidth

    * Unlimited Storage Space
    * 50 GB of Bandwidth

		
Domain Name

    * Unlimited Sub Domains
    * Unlimited Parked Domains


Site Management Tools

    * Control Panel
    * Site Builder
    * 24x7 FTP Access
    * FrontPageÂ® Extensions
    * Online File Manager
    * Web Mail
    * Custom Error Pages
    * Hot Link Protection

		
Free Software/Scripts

    * 50+ Installed Scripts -New!
    * Guestbook
    * Bulletin Boards
    * Form Mail
    * Counter
    * Blogging Software
    * Shopping Carts
    * Complete List


Security Features

    * SSL Server
    * Password Protected Directories

		
Fanatical Support Team

    * 24x7 Online Support
    * Telephone Support
    * Simple Flash Tutorials
    * Simple Documentation


Email Services

    * Unlimited Email Accounts
    * Unlimited Forwarding
    * Unlimited Email Aaliases
    * Catch-all Default Account
    * Unlimited Mailing Lists
    * Unlimited Autoresponders
    * Spam Protection

		
E-commerce Ready

    * Shopping Cart
    * SSL Certs
    * Your own CGI-BIN
    * Detailed Web Statistics
    * Free Search Engine Submission


Programming/Database Software

    * Perl
    * PHP
    * MySQL
    * Python
    * SSI
    * HTML
    * Flash

		
Network/Data Center

    * Unix/Linux Servers
    * Multiple OC-3 Connections
    * Apache Webserver
    * Cisco Switches and Routers
    * Battery Backup (UPS)
    * Diesel Backup Generator
    * Redundant HVAC system
    * Video camera surveillance
    * 24x7 Network Monitoring
    * 24x7 Server Monitoring
    * Weekly/Monthly Backups
    * 99.9% uptime

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Token
Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:46 pm


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woah, that sounds really great, what are the drawbacks?

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[Gandalf]
Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:51 pm


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Yeah, it seems good, bit would it allow the same flexability that we have now?  Modifying everything, etc?  It would suck to lose some features to gain others.

For storage space, I am sure that there are many pointless uploads, and if really needed, much of that could be eliminated.  The problem is filtering it all out.

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rdrake
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:24 pm


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I've been very happy being hosted by Unlimited POP3/IMAP Mail Accounts
Unlimited MySQL Databases
Unlimited Mailing Lists
Unlimited Email Forwarders
Unlimited Subdomains
Unlimited Parked and Addon Domains
Unlimited FTP Accounts
SSH Access
Ruby support
Cpanel
Fantastico
etc.


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1of42
Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:06 pm


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Going with the MP3 player theme - would the iPod Nano show up as a removable drive under Windows Explorer?

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Dan
Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:17 pm


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"]Yeah, it seems good, bit would it allow the same flexability that we have now?  Modifying everything, etc?  It would suck to lose some features to gain others.

For storage space, I am sure that there are many pointless uploads, and if really needed, much of that could be eliminated.  The problem is filtering it all out.

Same features and some more in that respect.......

What are the size specks for A Small orange?

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rdrake
Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:25 pm


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What are the size specks for A Small orange?
Virtual Hosting:Plan - Space - Bandwidth - Price
Tiny - 75 MB - 3 GB - $30/year
Small - 400 MB - 10GB - $5/month
Medium - 1000 MB - 25 GB - $10/month
Large - 2500 MB - 60 GB - $20/month
Super - 4500 MB - 100 GB - #30/month
They also have very fast support which will answer your question in 1 - 15 minutes.  The prices I've listed are in USD.

In order to use Ruby on Rails, you'll need to request SSH access which can easily be done by e-mailing their support with what server you're on and your username.

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brenn
Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:05 pm


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 I plan to go to Waterloo, I'm really trying to do good this year and get good grades. Is it hard to get in? what were ur marks when you were accepted?

< 90.   But I'm female.  They are striving for an equal gender representation.

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Boo-chan
Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:14 pm


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From an engineering perspective, I believe they have a long way to go in this    respect.

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wtd
Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:24 pm


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Nevermind

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brenn
Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:51 pm


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From an engineering perspective, I believe they have a long way to go in this    respect.

Yeah... I mean, our (former) class just lost 6% of the female population.  I suppose tho, that MTE 2010 just gained like... 4- 10%.

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lyam_kaskade
Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:01 am


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I plan to go to Waterloo, I'm really trying to do good this year and get good grades. Is it hard to get in? what were ur marks when you were accepted?


Don't worry about it too much. I had an 88 and somehow got into Mechatronics (which I think has the second highest admission average this year, after NanoTech). I think it's gone down significantly since the double cohort.


Yeah... I mean, our (former) class just lost 6% of the female population. I suppose tho, that MTE 2010 just gained like... 4- 10%.


I think there's about...8? maybe 9. But then, it is Mechatronics. Chemical/Environmental/Civil are often close to 40% female. I'm not sure what it is about mechanical and electrical that alot of girls aren't interested in...

Back on topic: If compsci.ca were part of a club at a university, then it wouldn't necessarily be discontinued if someone is kicked out.
Although I have issues with administration at UW, as well as the way they do websites (Jobmine, for example).
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Tony
Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:25 am


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I suppose tho, that MTE 2010 just gained like... 4- 10%.
Too bad they don't get to enjoy that 10% to the full extend. Unless there will be sharing involved :wink: 

Back on topic -- If Dan is so against TextDrive, A Small orange will be my second choice.

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Tony
Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:27 am


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Although I have issues with administration at UW, as well as the way they do websites (Jobmine, for example).

We don't actually make JobMine, but license the development elsewhere to PeopleSoft. It is kind of sketchy.

Talk to me about your issues in private and I'll see what I can bring up to the higher-ups.

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codemage
Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:58 am


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I was accepted to CS @ UW with roughly an 85%.  That was 'back in the day' though.  I recall that most classes were close to, but under 10% female.

It's roughly the same at the college where I teach.

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MihaiG
Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:12 am


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meh.... i plan to go in the us..... first i hve to study for those aronym tests
SAT,etc.

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Tony
Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:53 am


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I was accepted to CS @ UW with roughly an 85%.  That was 'back in the day' though.  I recall that most classes were close to, but under 10% female.

It's roughly the same at the college where I teach.

Should this thread be renamed to downtime+roll back+lack_of_girls ?

What do you teach at that college?

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codemage
Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:48 am


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Should this thread be renamed to downtime+roll back+lack_of_girls ? 
+hosting requirements +apple bashing +bashing apple bashers...

What do you teach at that college?

History, and two courses roughly equivalent to grade 11 computer programming & applications, respectively.

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Dan
Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:06 am


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Back on topic -- If Dan is so against TextDrive, A Small orange will be my second choice.

I don't like A Small orange any more then i like TextDrive......

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Tony
Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:24 am


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I don't like A Small orange any more then i like TextDrive......
TextDrive it is then! :lol: 

codemage -- any comments on [url=http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?t=9736]teaching Ruby? Please give some insighn on that discussion :)

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Dan
Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:38 pm


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If u whont i can find a host that will suport ruby on rails, but it will not be an over priced one with no space.........

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Tony
Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:22 pm


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but it will not be an over priced one with no space.........
It's not overpriced. You get what you pay for.

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Dan
Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:50 pm


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I am liking dreamhost, there services look good quality to me.

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Amailer
Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:06 pm


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Wow the dreamhost plans are crazy- but expensive no? (well only for the first month (for hte month to month payments) but then I guess its pretty alright)
Though it seems/looks better then Small Orange.

[edit]
You are talking about [url=http://www.dreamhost.com/shared/comparison.html]this right?

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Dan
Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:05 am


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Yes

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brenn
Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:09 pm


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Psst... Tony, stop trying to convince Dan.  More resources for MAP :D
