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bullets
Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:01 pm

Starting C++
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Well im gonna start learning C++    i know some turing stuff ect. which is supposed to help me understand programming languages. I was reading though that i should know C  if i know C++  or should i just shoot for one or just go after java??  also are there any places, things ect that i should know about other teh l33t n sexy guides here


EDIT:   also there are  C and C++ guides mabey do the same thing like in the turing section eh??  make a seperate post with the proper ones for each section??  :D   just help newbies out :D

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wtd
Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:09 pm


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Of C and C++, C++ is the language to learn.  However, neither is friendly to newbies.  Neither is Java, for that matter.  Pick up something like Ruby or Python first.  

If you're masochistic and dead set on learning C++ or Java, check out the relevant tutorials sections here.

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bullets
Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:53 pm

Re: Starting C++
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 other teh l33t n sexy guides here




 :D 

so pick up ruby or python first is there one that would help me understand C++ better on when i go to learn it?? or mabey one that is a lil more..... fun

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wtd
Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:29 pm


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Sure.  The only way to learn is experience.  Experience is gained by experimentation.  Ruby and Python both make it very easy to experiment.  :)

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bullets
Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:51 pm


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ur no help :P

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wtd
Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:04 pm


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Trying to save you some pain.  I'm currently working with several people trying to learn C++.  Weeks in and they're still working on mastering the most basic syntactic constructs.

It's very frustrating to see people getting turned off because they choose to start with languages that present so much to understand before you can do anything.

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bullets
Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:17 pm


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lol no not about that  thx for it though

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[Gandalf]
Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:51 pm


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Trying to save you some pain.  I'm currently working with several people trying to learn C++.  Weeks in and they're still working on mastering the most basic syntactic constructs.
Oh man, I'm going to cry now :cry:.  There's a lot to it, that's one of larger reasons, lots more to understand than all the Turing libraries combined, lots more.  Am I doing that bad compared to other newbies?

How well do you know Turing?  If you know it pretty well then I think you will probably get a good hang on something higher level like Ruby.

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wtd
Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:41 pm


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"]Trying to save you some pain.  I'm currently working with several people trying to learn C++.  Weeks in and they're still working on mastering the most basic syntactic constructs.
Oh man, I'm going to cry now :cry:

I was actually thinking of someone else.  You're doing decently.  :)

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[Gandalf]
Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:39 pm


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That's good to know, I'm trying.  Without your help I would be still trying to figure out how to keep the window open long enough to read it :lol:

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wtd
Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:48 pm


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Here's the real secret to keeping the window open... run the program from the command-line.  The program will run and immediately terminate when it finishes, but the window will still be there.  This is the way prorams are meant to work.
