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wtd

Tue May 17, 2005 12:31 am


PS3 specs now available

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http://ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614682p1.html

Not gonna repost it all here.  Visit the site I linked to.  :)


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Notoroge

Tue May 17, 2005 8:05 am



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And for those of us behind filtered school proxies, try this site: :)
Hint: Poke the smilie!

I like the high level of detail in this article.
Update: That's supposed to be the processor that the PS3 will sport.


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Martin

Tue May 17, 2005 9:19 am



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Looks like the XBox 360 is more powerful.


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Amailer

Tue May 17, 2005 9:42 am



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Alright to me.. they just made it look ugly... look at the damm controler.
And there are new types of disks for PS3? intresting...
**EDIT**
hmm the controlers are wireless?


btw, read the first impressions XD


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wtd

Tue May 17, 2005 11:11 am



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Looks like the XBox 360 is more powerful.

Not necessarily.  ThePS3 looks to use faster and more video memory, and Sony will be using the "Cell" variant on the PowerPC, while the one Microsoft is using looks to be more conservative.  "Cell", co-developed by Sony, IBM< and Toshiba incorporates 8 special purpose execution cores and a 64-bit PowerPC controller chip on a single die.  The best comparison I can make is to say it's a bit like a cluster setup without any network latency.

I also like the CF/SD reader in addition to MemoryStick, and the use of USB ports.  It's like Sony read my comment about consoles using standard components.


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Notoroge

Tue May 17, 2005 3:29 pm



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Maybe with a hard-drive and linux on it, we can soon see a really cheap and fast Mac (once price drops)? PearPC anyone?


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wtd

Tue May 17, 2005 3:39 pm



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Not necessarily.  While the Cell is based around a straightforward PowerPC64 execution core, it is fairly funky, and there's no guarantee Apple will support it.

Then, if Apple did support it, there's a good chance they wouldn't be able to take full advantage of the 8 Special Purpose Execution cores.  These are the primary benefit in using Cell.  The general purpose core, while fast in clockspeed, is fairly simple, and can't necessarily compete on its own with other PPCs, especially as pertains to VMX/Altivec performance, upon which Apple's software heavily relies.


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Maverick

Tue May 17, 2005 4:56 pm



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The PS3 controller looks retarded.


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MyPistolsIn3D

Tue May 17, 2005 4:59 pm



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I love the way the PS3 looks. I will buy one over an X-Box.


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wtd

Tue May 17, 2005 5:37 pm



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I love the way the PS3 looks. I will buy one over an X-Box.

Indeed.  Comparable to anything currently out, save perhaps the GameCube, it's very sleek.


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Martin

Tue May 17, 2005 8:27 pm



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PS3 time...
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/media.html


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wtd

Tue May 17, 2005 8:38 pm



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I love the way the PS3 looks. I will buy one over an X-Box.

Indeed.  Comparable to anything currently out, save perhaps the GameCube, it's very sleek.

I was wrong.  

http://news.com.com/Nintendos+big+E3+surprise+comes+in+little+box/2100-1043_3-5710511.html?tag=nl

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/ne/p/2005/517revolution550x400.jpg


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Amailer

Tue May 17, 2005 8:47 pm



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PS3 time...
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/media.html

WOW :| Thats amazing... this is sweet XD


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lain

Tue May 17, 2005 11:06 pm



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I love the way the PS3 looks. I will buy one over an X-Box.

Indeed.  Comparable to anything currently out, save perhaps the GameCube, it's very sleek.

I was wrong.  

http://news.com.com/Nintendos+big+E3+surprise+comes+in+little+box/2100-1043_3-5710511.html?tag=nl

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/ne/p/2005/517revolution550x400.jpg

I real like how the new nintendo will be able to download any SNES, NES and N64 game to it's hdd and games to the DS with the built in wifi in both devices. It is to bad they have not toald us more about this nice black box.


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Martin

Wed May 18, 2005 8:18 am



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I love the way the PS3 looks. I will buy one over an X-Box.

Indeed.  Comparable to anything currently out, save perhaps the GameCube, it's very sleek.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004SQPD.01.PT01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I was wrong, it looks like the PS3 is the most powerful of the three. Apparently the XBox 360 is much more functional though (with more cool features). But yeah, looks like I'm gonna own a ps3. Unfortunately, by everything that Nintendo has said about the revolution, it's only going to be about 3 times more powerful than the GC (vs. 30x for the PS2->PS3 and 15x for the XBox->XBox 360).

Nintendo seems to be falling apart lately, and that makes me kind of worried. It would be sad to see them go the route of Sega.


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lain

Wed May 18, 2005 8:32 am



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I was wrong, it looks like the PS3 is the most powerful of the three. Apparently the XBox 360 is much more functional though (with more cool features). But yeah, looks like I'm gonna own a ps3. Unfortunately, by everything that Nintendo has said about the revolution, it's only going to be about 3 times more powerful than the GC (vs. 30x for the PS2->PS3 and 15x for the XBox->XBox 360).

Nintendo seems to be falling apart lately, and that makes me kind of worried. It would be sad to see them go the route of Sega.

Actucaly nintendo is not doing that bad, they are very big in jappan and are out selling the PSP with there DS by quite a bit worldwide. Also i am not shure where you got thos stats for the revolution since officaly nintendo has not realsed any and made a point of this at the E3 press confrence yesterday (i think it was). 

Tho you are right about the PS3 being powerfull init's self, but the problem is right now it looks like it is going to cost alot. Ninitendo is know for making more cost effective (and now small for some reason) consoles and systems. If nintendo sticks to there past console devlopment plans the revolutions will probly have combaral speed and graficks capbitiys but lack extar features witch are realy unneed. Tho they did allready say it whould be online and wifi enabled out of the box.

And remember some of thess systems are not even close to coming out and the last one to come out will have the advantge of being able to add that litte bit more power to screw over the next guy.

What has me realy intrested is the new zeald game nintendo is making for the GC also DDR is coming to the GC with a mario tiwst.


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Mazer

Wed May 18, 2005 8:49 am



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I just saw the trailer for the new Zelda game the other day, it made me feel all warm and tingly inside. But a bit sad too, since I don't have a GameCube.

It was weird though... it has the grown up Link like in Ocarina of Time. Is Miyamoto not working on this game again?


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Wed May 18, 2005 9:08 am



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I was wrong, it looks like the PS3 is the most powerful of the three. Apparently the XBox 360 is much more functional though (with more cool features). But yeah, looks like I'm gonna own a ps3. Unfortunately, by everything that Nintendo has said about the revolution, it's only going to be about 3 times more powerful than the GC (vs. 30x for the PS2->PS3 and 15x for the XBox->XBox 360).

Nintendo seems to be falling apart lately, and that makes me kind of worried. It would be sad to see them go the route of Sega.

Actucaly nintendo is not doing that bad, they are very big in jappan and are out selling the PSP with there DS by quite a bit worldwide. Also i am not shure where you got thos stats for the revolution since officaly nintendo has not realsed any and made a point of this at the E3 press confrence yesterday (i think it was). 

Tho you are right about the PS3 being powerfull init's self, but the problem is right now it looks like it is going to cost alot. Ninitendo is know for making more cost effective (and now small for some reason) consoles and systems. If nintendo sticks to there past console devlopment plans the revolutions will probly have combaral speed and graficks capbitiys but lack extar features witch are realy unneed. Tho they did allready say it whould be online and wifi enabled out of the box.

And remember some of thess systems are not even close to coming out and the last one to come out will have the advantge of being able to add that litte bit more power to screw over the next guy.

What has me realy intrested is the new zeald game nintendo is making for the GC also DDR is coming to the GC with a mario tiwst.

Nintendo is doing brutally. 10 years ago, their name was synonymous with video games. Now, they've been destroyed in the console market by Sony and Microsoft, and they're being given a solid run for their money by Sony in the handheld market. The Revolution is really their last shot at the console market.

Now, undoubtedly, it will be cheaper than the other two consoles. I see $300 US releases for the PS2/XBox360, and probably $200-$250 US on the Revolution.

Finally, keep in mind that the PS2 was the market leader this round, and theirs was the first released and inarguably the least powerful console on the market.


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wtd

Wed May 18, 2005 11:19 am



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Also worth keeping in mind: Sony and Microsoft have in the past overhyped the computing power of their consoles.  Nintendo underestimated the potential of the GameCube.  The Revolution may pack more of a punch than anyone expects.

Also, don't underestimate the effect a low price point can have.  It's a great way to target youth, but also a good way to target cost-conscious adults.  Most of the 30+ gamers I've spoken with are solid Nintendo followers for this reason.

Imagine you picked up a GameCube for $99USD.  Now along coes the Revolution for $149USD.  You suddenly can have bought both for less than one of the other consoles.


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Wed May 18, 2005 3:35 pm



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Also the quality of Nintendo hardware is very good in that there systems are aucatly hard to break unlike the PS2 witch i have seen stop fuctioning from a slight tap or just time. This is very aprent in the DS vs the PSP, there has been many cases of the PSP geting dead pixals and problems with the buttions but the DS has the noraml nintendo quailty and you could probely hit it agaisted the wall a few times and see no ill effects. Persoanly i like may consoles to last more then a year..........


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Wed May 18, 2005 6:18 pm



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Hey, the Nintendo console looks cool and all, let's just hope that they make more than a couple of games that are worth playing.

Or, unlike the DS, actually release games for it.


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wtd

Wed May 18, 2005 6:21 pm



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Hey, the Nintendo console looks cool and all, let's just hope that they make more than a couple of games that are worth playing.

There are lots of good games for GameCube.  Most people I know will happily say it has the best good/crap ration around.  :)


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Wed May 18, 2005 6:29 pm



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The good:bad ratio doesn't matter, just the number of good games.

I'd prefer a console with 1000 games, of which 20 are good vs. one with 50 games out of which 5 are worth playing.

I can think of Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime 1&2, and Zelda for the GC. For the DS, I can't think of anything.

EDIT: Oh, and Smash Bros. Gotta have Smash Bros.


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wtd

Wed May 18, 2005 6:40 pm



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The good:bad ratio doesn't matter, just the number of good games.

I'd prefer a console with 1000 games, of which 20 are good vs. one with 50 games out of which 5 are worth playing.

I can think of Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime 1&2, and Zelda for the GC. For the DS, I can't think of anything.

EDIT: Oh, and Smash Bros. Gotta have Smash Bros.

Haven't played with the DS, so I wo't comment one way or the other.

But for the GameCube, the Pikmin series is incredibly addictive, and fun for all ages (neither I nor my wife are in the 8-10 market lots of people like to cite).  Double Dash is good solid fun too.  I could cite others probably, but we don't have an extensive library.


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Wed May 18, 2005 6:43 pm



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It is true that the DS is off to a slower start game wise but it is backwors comabiabl with any gameboy game ever made. And there are a few good games for the DS such as the metriode one and the kirby one. The GC has tones of gr8 games in my option that are worth while playing and since the Revolution is going to be backwords comabital with all of them it will be a gr8 system with out any new games just b/c it combinds 4~5 systems in one (posibly more depending on how many gameboy games they will have for dl).


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Wed May 18, 2005 6:56 pm



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It is true that the DS is off to a slower start game wise but it is backwors comabiabl with any gameboy game ever made. And there are a few good games for the DS such as the metriode one and the kirby one. The GC has tones of gr8 games in my option that are worth while playing and since the Revolution is going to be backwords comabital with all of them it will be a gr8 system with out any new games just b/c it combinds 4~5 systems in one (posibly more depending on how many gameboy games they will have for dl).

Metroid nor Kirby are out for the DS.The PS3 will support PS and PS2 games, and the XBox 360 will play XBox games (and, if the XBox was any indication, it'll also play Neo Geo, PS1/2 games, and all Nintendo games...)


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Wed May 18, 2005 8:13 pm



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Metroid nor Kirby are out for the DS.The PS3 will support PS and PS2 games, and the XBox 360 will play XBox games (and, if the XBox was any indication, it'll also play Neo Geo, PS1/2 games, and all Nintendo games...)

Thats very odd since i have walked in to EB games and played metroid on the DS..........i am prity shure kirby is out or close to being out b/c i have seen a review for it.......


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First, I am soo glad you editted that or I would have had to slap you :P
EDIT: Oh, and Smash Bros. Gotta have Smash Bros.
Second
Metroid nor Kirby are out for the DS What the hell are you talking about?! Not sure about Kirby, but Metroid is definatly out for DS, considering its usually the test game in the stores like lain said, but also it was like the first game that they showed in the commercials...


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Thu May 19, 2005 8:26 am



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No, the game is not out yet. It's set to be released August 22nd. What you played was the demo. If all that the DS has going for it is a demo for a potentially good game, I'm out.

