----------------------------------- Martin Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:55 am Ninjas or Pirates? ----------------------------------- The age old battle continues... ----------------------------------- Cervantes Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:48 pm ----------------------------------- Sweet... I'm being overrun. Way to edit the poll, Coutsos. You can't hide the truth from me! :lol: ----------------------------------- wtd Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:09 pm ----------------------------------- Pirates are cool. Ninjas are just lame. ----------------------------------- md Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:52 pm ----------------------------------- Pirates kick ass! Specifically ninja ass... ----------------------------------- Maverick Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:32 pm ----------------------------------- Pirates a dirty lamers. Ninjas own. ----------------------------------- rizzix Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:11 pm ----------------------------------- Ninjas pwn pirates.. anyday. ----------------------------------- wtd Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:21 am ----------------------------------- The problem with ninjas is that they have no style. Where are the purple hats with big feathers? When was the last time you saw a ninja with a peg leg or foul-mouthed parrot? Ninjas don't have swag either. What's the point if you can't have swag? ----------------------------------- Mazer Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:53 am ----------------------------------- Sweet... I'm being overrun. Way to edit the poll, Coutsos. You can't hide the truth from me! :lol: Oh take it easy. I haven't rigged any polls since the time I won the avatar of the month award (which I never received). Does anybody know how the ninja vs pirate thing started. I remember way back in the day with PVPonline, while Scott Kurtz wasn't working on the comic for some reason, he had the NVP (Ninja vs Pirate) filler comics, but I don't think that was the origin of this... PS, I don't see how pirates could stand a chance. ----------------------------------- Martin Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:03 am ----------------------------------- I think it might have had something to do with http://www.realultimatepower.net/ ----------------------------------- Mazer Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:18 am ----------------------------------- I sincerely hope all of this was not started by that jackass. Why hasn't he been killed yet? ----------------------------------- rizzix Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:21 pm ----------------------------------- we need some sort of Sea Dragon no jutsu.... and wreck those ships.. silly pirates.. :lol: ----------------------------------- Mazer Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:34 pm ----------------------------------- Hah! Once again, Zabuza is the greatest! ----------------------------------- MyPistolsIn3D Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:45 pm ----------------------------------- Pirates have way more class. Ninjas are sneaky and fight dirty. ----------------------------------- Tony Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:19 pm ----------------------------------- Ninjas are sneaky and fight dirty. Pirates don't shower :? ----------------------------------- Amailer Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:26 pm ----------------------------------- Ninjas have more style in their fighting way more... (i think). Fast = cool. ----------------------------------- wtd Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:38 pm ----------------------------------- Ninjas have more style in their fighting way more... (i think). Fast = cool. Being a pirate isn't just about fighting. Sure, they fight passionately, but they love and live passionately too. Ninjas don't get that. They're hopeless. ----------------------------------- Tony Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:55 pm ----------------------------------- two words: ninja turtles :dance: ----------------------------------- md Sat Apr 23, 2005 7:03 pm ----------------------------------- Ninjas are sneaky and fight dirty. Pirates don't shower :? Neither do CS students... coincidence? I think so! ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sat Apr 23, 2005 7:44 pm ----------------------------------- two words: ninja turtles :dance: I thought you were for ninjas, tony? Why disgrace ninjas everywhere by reminding everyone about the ninja turtles? ----------------------------------- rizzix Sat Apr 23, 2005 7:46 pm ----------------------------------- hey actually those trutles are cool.. gee. ----------------------------------- Mazer Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:14 pm ----------------------------------- hey actually those trutles are cool.. gee. Heh... talk to my friends about a sewer downtown and what they're doing after exams if you want to know their opinion on TMNT. :P ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:09 pm ----------------------------------- Ninja > Pirates because ninjas don't suffer from scurvy. I mean how cool is it to have rotting gums? See, even IF ninjas suffered from scurvy, they'd still have the masks to hide those hideous gums. Therefore, Ninja > Pirates. I read a webcomic, I think it's CounterCulture, here's the part with Ninja and Pirates, it's rather funny: http://counterculture.infinite-comics.com/oldsite/index.php?comic=29 Read the next 4 pages. ----------------------------------- md Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:21 pm ----------------------------------- Pfft... only cheap pirates who used to be ninja's suffer from scurvy; the rest of us pirates have great... well... moderatly good teeth :P ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:24 pm ----------------------------------- Ninja > Pirates because ninjas don't suffer from scurvy. I mean how cool is it to have rotting gums? See, even IF ninjas suffered from scurvy, they'd still have the masks to hide those hideous gums. Therefore, Ninja > Pirates. It's all about the intimidation factor. ----------------------------------- md Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:33 pm ----------------------------------- Ninja > Pirates because ninjas don't suffer from scurvy. I mean how cool is it to have rotting gums? See, even IF ninjas suffered from scurvy, they'd still have the masks to hide those hideous gums. Therefore, Ninja > Pirates. It's all about the intimidation factor. Yeah I mean, what's more intimidating? A fool in a dress with a slender sword? Or a Guy with raggy, hand made clothes that may, or may not, match; with a freaking huge axe, or a cutlass and pistoles; or better yet... a maul :D Until you've had someone chase after you with a 20kg maul, swinging it around like it weighted nothing... there's really nothign scarier then that :P ----------------------------------- Bacchus Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:14 pm ----------------------------------- i agree pirates are cool (and scurvy only effect those who wont eat limes :d) but a ninja will pwn a pirate neday. night would be better but hey, one swing of the katana and the pirate will be standing in his Long John silvers :P ----------------------------------- md Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:16 pm ----------------------------------- I dunno about that... pirates have boats... with cannon... now I don't knwo about your ningas, but the ones I've met don't have boats, nor do they have any defnece/understanding of cannon :D ----------------------------------- rizzix Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:37 pm ----------------------------------- no but we can walk on water.. soo. yea... as for ur boats.. man do i need to repeat my self: Sea Dragon no jutsu.. or something to that effect.. ur pwned.. pfft. ----------------------------------- Bacchus Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:55 am ----------------------------------- and then the ninjas can also quietly slip something into the cannon and block the end when the pirates are trying to shut their parrots up about crackers, and that will turn the cannon into one big pipebomb! :D ----------------------------------- Mazer Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:48 am ----------------------------------- I've got a way to either help settle this debate, or help push it to a point where we'll lose interest before ever coming near any kind of agreement on this. Let's examine the visual coolness factor of our fantastic friends, shall we? Go find a cool picture of a know alot of ninja fans are also anime fans (I'll be damned if you can find a picture of a ninja IRL), so I'd like to limit this to one ninja pic per anime (we don't need five hundred fucking pictures of Kakashi and Sasuke and Naruto and Jiraiya an..) - one pic per user - one pic per http://users.mnsi.net/~mdss/kurogane.jpg I've got four words for you: P. I. M. P.! :wink: As an added bonus, it would seem he can summon a dragon which can turn into a big sword. *glee* ----------------------------------- [Gandalf] Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:24 pm ----------------------------------- Real ninja: http://www.budosport.dk/Admin/ws_img/M/ninja.jpg :) ----------------------------------- Cervantes Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:45 am ----------------------------------- I've got four words for you: P. I. M. P.! :wink: And spindly little legs! one swing of the katana and the pirate will be standing in his Long John silvers :P Yeah, and one shot of the pistol and the ninja is dead. Or, as Cornflake so wonderfully mentioned, there's the cannon sitting on the boats. And how can ninjas walk on water? We're talking real, physical possibilities here, please? ----------------------------------- rizzix Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:15 pm ----------------------------------- hey btw ur pistols are not really all that fast.. besides we have barrier techniquies.. btw: ninjas were a mythic legend.. why do we have this topic if we want real physical possibilites.. ----------------------------------- MyPistolsIn3D Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:22 pm ----------------------------------- Ur right. Pirates win by default. ----------------------------------- Bacchus Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:00 am ----------------------------------- pirates are to slow to hit a ninja with a pistol, by the time their done scratching their ass with it, their head would be gone :P on another side, i do like pirates as well, usually bucaneers more lol not much difference ----------------------------------- Mazer Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:21 am ----------------------------------- btw: ninjas were a mythic legend.. why do we have this topic if we want real physical possibilites.. No, I'm quite certain that ninjas existed, just not in the same way Kishimoto depicts them. Certainly they didn't have magic powers, and the shuriken were mostly useless, they still did some pretty neat stuff. ----------------------------------- MyPistolsIn3D Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:08 pm ----------------------------------- What we need to do to resolve this is find an actual pirate and an actual ninja and make them fight. I wanna be a pirate when I grow up. I will rob people along the 400 series highways and I will drive a Gremlin. 8) ----------------------------------- rizzix Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:44 pm ----------------------------------- but the fundamental point is: ninjas are assassins.. whats a point of fighting the one whos purposes is to kill ya? i'd run.. :P ----------------------------------- Mazer Sun May 01, 2005 8:14 am ----------------------------------- Well, not just assassins. They served other purposes such as spying and sabotage. Really, them ninja were multi-purpose sons of bitches! :wink: ----------------------------------- axej Mon May 30, 2005 4:45 pm ----------------------------------- ninjas own pirates and ninjas can do back flips and crazy stuff like that! :D ----------------------------------- Cervantes Mon May 30, 2005 4:57 pm ----------------------------------- but the fundamental point is: ninjas are assassins.. whats a point of fighting the one whos purposes is to kill ya? i'd run.. :P Being trained for something does not necessarily mean one is good at that particular task. Example: Greek hopolites were excellent defensive soldiers. They trained for such a task. But a crazed teenager with an AK-47 could still wipe them all out. That's the kind of thing we've got here. Ninjas are great at what they do, but they cannot compete with pirates who have cannon & pistols. ----------------------------------- axej Mon May 30, 2005 5:02 pm ----------------------------------- but with a nija's uber godlike speed, they can dodge bullets then throw thier little star things at the pirate. imagine a ninja with a gun though :lol: ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon May 30, 2005 5:09 pm ----------------------------------- I dout the ninja would use the gun alot they don't need it. Also, even some crazy teenager with an AK-47 wouldn't be able to kill the ninja easily, they are fast and hard to find :twisted: ----------------------------------- axej Mon May 30, 2005 5:16 pm ----------------------------------- ok then, how about a ninja with lazer eyes? :roll: :twisted: actually now that i think about it, that's pretty cool. :lol: ----------------------------------- Cervantes Mon May 30, 2005 5:41 pm ----------------------------------- but with a nija's uber godlike speed, they can dodge bullets then throw thier little star things at the pirate. Oh, well if the ninjas get "uber godlike speed", I'm going to give the pirates uber anteater-like breath, and it will nausiate the ninjas no matter what. And the zone of nausiation is infinate in radius. And it works infinately fast too. And actually, it doesn't just nausiate them, it kills them. Yeah, that would be better. You can't just say a ninja has uber godlike speed. That's ridiculous. But so is arguing over the internet: you're still retarded. :lol: ----------------------------------- axej Mon May 30, 2005 6:33 pm ----------------------------------- im not retarded! oh and i give my ninja a uber ward that protects him against all offensive and defensive attacks even if it says they hit no matter what because i said all attacks. i also give him an ocular implant that kills all pirates instantly! :lol: :twisted: how's that for being reediculus :roll: 8) :lol: ----------------------------------- Mazer Mon May 30, 2005 6:43 pm ----------------------------------- but the fundamental point is: ninjas are assassins.. whats a point of fighting the one whos purposes is to kill ya? i'd run.. :P Being trained for something does not necessarily mean one is good at that particular task. Example: Greek hopolites were excellent defensive soldiers. They trained for such a task. But a crazed teenager with an AK-47 could still wipe them all out. That's the kind of thing we've got here. Ninjas are great at what they do, but they cannot compete with pirates who have cannon & pistols. Please, please, the name is "Hoplite." :D Just before I see to many more "ninjas are cool lol" style comments, I'd like to direct you kiddies to howstuffworks.com [url=http://people.howstuffworks.com/ninja.htm]Here, specifically. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Mon May 30, 2005 7:03 pm ----------------------------------- Nick Coutsos of the Greeks, you have my most sincere apologies. Please do not rain terror on my poor town for my misguided actions. Axej, regarding that whole thing about the uber powerful breath: I was being hugely sarcastic. That's one of the dumbest things I've ever said. And, no offence, but it mimicks what you were saying about the laser eyes and the godlike speed. ----------------------------------- axej Mon May 30, 2005 7:08 pm ----------------------------------- it was obviously sarcastic :roll: but you can also tell that my posts were also sarcastic. ----------------------------------- axej Mon May 30, 2005 7:27 pm ----------------------------------- interesting article there Mazer. i didn't know that they had a special ninja section. ----------------------------------- Mazer Mon May 30, 2005 9:17 pm ----------------------------------- Nick Coutsos of the Greeks, you have my most sincere apologies. Please do not rain terror on my poor town for my misguided actions. We cool, we cool. ----------------------------------- [Gandalf] Mon May 30, 2005 9:55 pm ----------------------------------- but with a nija's uber godlike speed, they can dodge bullets then throw thier little star things at the pirate. Oh, well if the ninjas get "uber godlike speed", I'm going to give the pirates uber anteater-like breath, and it will nausiate the ninjas no matter what. And the zone of nausiation is infinate in radius. And it works infinately fast too. And actually, it doesn't just nausiate them, it kills them. Yeah, that would be better. You can't just say a ninja has uber godlike speed. That's ridiculous. But so is arguing over the internet: you're still retarded. :lol: lol If pirates have anteater-like killing breath then ninja's just have rebound sheilds which deflect anything pirate made that touches them. THEN all PIRATES would be dead :lol" How many times have I imagined what would happen if I could go back in time, take a rifle, and take over the roman empire :). ----------------------------------- axej Mon May 30, 2005 9:57 pm ----------------------------------- "]How many times have I imagined what would happen if I could go back in time, take a rifle, and take over the roman empire :). if you did that, you'd probably run out of ammo very soon ----------------------------------- [Gandalf] Mon May 30, 2005 11:14 pm ----------------------------------- Fine, if I had a time machine, then I would probably have enough technology to build a lasergun - no more bullet troubles for me! ----------------------------------- axej Mon May 30, 2005 11:31 pm ----------------------------------- "]Fine, if I had a time machine, then I would probably have enough technology to build a lasergun - no more bullet troubles for me! lol :lol: iwish i had a laser gun ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:15 pm ----------------------------------- Ninja are smart, sneaky and fast. Pirates are dirty(no shower), blind(eye cap) and lame (leg missing). I dont see a fight... ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:37 pm ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta: Those are such one-sided arguments. How about if I call ninjas skin-tight wearing, sissy throwing, backstabbing cowards? And you forgot to mention many cool things about pirates: eye patches, peg legs, and hooks for hands. :wink: Well, it seems pirates are a lost cause. I vote Hobbits! :) ----------------------------------- Paul Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:01 pm ----------------------------------- Well, Pirates would be cool if someone supplied them with cybernetic limb replacements... like swivling robo-xray eyes, multipurpose titanium alloy hands that are capable of shooting 1 giant round every 5 seconds, uber strong kicking leg that is extendable. Y'know then they'd be pretty damned cool. RoboPirate > RoboNinja. ----------------------------------- md Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:12 pm ----------------------------------- Hobbit Pirates! Being short and plump they are ideally suited to being loaded into cannon and shot at the rampaging ninja horde! I mean... Hobbit Pirates would be harder to hit because they are short... yes... I would never fire a hobbit or hampster out of a cannon... :shifty: ----------------------------------- Paul Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:17 pm ----------------------------------- I think I'd prefer hobbit ninjas, you know how EASY it is for short people to sneak up on you? Seriously, I my self cannot find short people even if they're right infront of me, they kind of waver around the corner of your eye, but you don't acknowledge their presence, next thing you know... STAB! :roll: ----------------------------------- md Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:21 pm ----------------------------------- I dunno... I mean there are plenty of times when I accidentially step on the short people who are trying to sneak up on me... I still think pirates are cooler. The thing about hobbits on their own is that they aren't very good at fighting, whereas ninjas and pirates are trained killers... kinda... The point being that even in his natual state of inebreation a pirate is more then capable of dealing with a Hobbit (or a ninja ;)) ----------------------------------- Mazer Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:09 pm ----------------------------------- Did you know: In ninja clans, it was common for a man to have 10 children. It was also common for 9 of these children to die in training. Ninja training began at 6 months with the parent forcefully dislocating each of the baby's joints daily. By puberty, a ninja should be able to dislocate a given joint at will. The saya (sheath) of a ninja's weapon doubled as a sort of blowgun. If the ninja became disarmed, they'd blow into a hole at the end of the saya to blow clouds of powder into the enemy's face in order to escape. ----------------------------------- codemage Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:26 pm ----------------------------------- I'd rather be a skin-tight wearing, sissy throwing, backstabbing coward than a smelly, parrot-toting, swashbuckling, backstabbed amputee with flair. Kudos for courage and bravado, but it doesn't amount to much when you drink poisoned grog or you're knifed in your sleep. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:47 pm ----------------------------------- Kudos for courage and bravado, but it doesn't amount to much when you drink poisoned grog or you're knifed in your sleep. Ah, so samurai aren't cool either then, I take it? ----------------------------------- Mazer Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:31 pm ----------------------------------- Did you also know: A Ninja might actually poison the target as well as him(/her)self. Part of the Ninja's training involved taking small amounts of various poisons. By allowing themselves to be poisoned as well, the target still dies and the Ninja gets very sick. Who would suspect a victim of being the murderer? Ninja didn't use their shuriken as much as they were popularly believed to. In reality, a thrown shuriken doesn't fly very straight at all, and was mostly used to distract someone or slow down pursuers. (While it was unlikly to get sniped by a shuriken, most people would still think twice before running into one). ----------------------------------- codemage Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:43 am ----------------------------------- Ah, so samurai aren't cool either then, I take it? Samurai are cool - but they wouldn't beat a ninja on ninja terms. 1 on 1, it's no contest to the samurai, but what makes the ninja deadly is that they choose to fight only on their own terms. ----------------------------------- md Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:00 pm ----------------------------------- I really want to point out that ninjas are completely useless vs. pirates as teh pirates will sit back in their nice pirate ship and blow the crap out of anything they see with cannon fire long before it can get close though to do anything. Pirates have cannon. Pirates are well trained in the use of cannon. Ninjas have no way of stopping grapeshot. Let me tell ya, a round of grapeshot to the anywhere is gonna take a nice big chunk out of you... I don't think a ninja could survive that and still fight... ----------------------------------- codemage Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:00 pm ----------------------------------- This is really getting quite silly, but I'm ok with that. I don't think ninjas would be comfortable at sea. They would wait for the pirates to make port and off them stealthily during the shore leave. The ninja is the master of assassination, in which there is no actual combat taking place, just the kill. ----------------------------------- Boo-chan Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:40 pm ----------------------------------- Obviously a fight between pirates and ninjas would result in both sides being wiped out. Since the ninjas are better fighters they would easily kill all the pirates, then [url=http://www.venganza.org/images/spreadword/pchart1.jpg]global warming occurs and kills all the ninjas. ----------------------------------- Martin Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:26 am ----------------------------------- I really want to point out that ninjas are completely useless vs. pirates as teh pirates will sit back in their nice pirate ship and blow the crap out of anything they see with cannon fire long before it can get close though to do anything. Pirates have cannon. Pirates are well trained in the use of cannon. Ninjas have no way of stopping grapeshot. Let me tell ya, a round of grapeshot to the anywhere is gonna take a nice big chunk out of you... I don't think a ninja could survive that and still fight... But you see, the pirates have to stop and resupply at some point. And then ... ninja time. ----------------------------------- md Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:41 pm ----------------------------------- I really want to point out that ninjas are completely useless vs. pirates as teh pirates will sit back in their nice pirate ship and blow the crap out of anything they see with cannon fire long before it can get close though to do anything. Pirates have cannon. Pirates are well trained in the use of cannon. Ninjas have no way of stopping grapeshot. Let me tell ya, a round of grapeshot to the anywhere is gonna take a nice big chunk out of you... I don't think a ninja could survive that and still fight... But you see, the pirates have to stop and resupply at some point. And then ... ninja time. Food and water for as long as a year can be stored on board, and when the pirates do eventually need to go restock they can go to a pirate friendly port without ninjas... and cannon rounds and gun powder don't get used unless you're actively killing ninjas :D ----------------------------------- Martin Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:58 am ----------------------------------- But what about the ninjas sneaking onto the ship at night? They can do that, you know. ----------------------------------- codemage Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:59 am ----------------------------------- A year at sea? Smells like mutiny to me. Smells like scurvy and malnutrition too. (...and scurvy smells bad.) Grains and water might keep for a year, but meat, fruits and vegetables won't. ----------------------------------- md Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:45 pm ----------------------------------- A year at sea? Smells like mutiny to me. Smells like scurvy and malnutrition too. (...and scurvy smells bad.) Grains and water might keep for a year, but meat, fruits and vegetables won't. Salt pork and Salt beef keep very long times, fruit is more problematic, but concentrates fruit juice (like lemon or lime juice) lasts quite long too; and when added to grog keeps scurvy at bay. As for sneaking aboard at night, that's what sentries are for; or even just sailing back and forth so that the ninja's can't simply swim to the boat. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:41 pm ----------------------------------- or even just sailing back and forth so that the ninja's can't simply swim to the boat. Please, everyone knows ninjas ... can walk on water :lol: But let's not start that again. In fact, I think we should drop the entire argument. If you must argue something, how about Dwarfs versus Elves? ----------------------------------- md Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:44 pm ----------------------------------- Dwarfs are good and all, but elves are so much faster and sneakier. I say the elves win, unless it's a drinking contest. ----------------------------------- Mazer Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:02 pm ----------------------------------- Elves ftw, tbh. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:35 pm ----------------------------------- Looks like elves hands down. 3-0. I can't vote for dwarves after hearing the quote about the dwarvish neceessity for hairy women. *shudder* ----------------------------------- Martin Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:56 pm ----------------------------------- Dwarfs are good and all, but elves are so much faster and sneakier. I say the elves win, unless it's a drinking contest. And unless it's a Lord of the Rings movie ;) ----------------------------------- codemage Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:13 am ----------------------------------- Dwarfs if money is on the line, else Elves. ----------------------------------- md Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:47 pm ----------------------------------- Looks like elves hands down. 3-0. I can't vote for dwarves after hearing the quote about the dwarvish neceessity for hairy women. *shudder* While I might disagree with the level of hairiness... I'm not gonna finish this sentence in the interests of PG-ness ----------------------------------- Mazer Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:04 pm ----------------------------------- OK dudes, let's not be hating people for being hairy. ----------------------------------- Hikaru79 Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:15 am ----------------------------------- OK dudes, let's not be hating people for being hairy. Would this be a bad time to bring out the samurai sword picture? ;) ----------------------------------- Mazer Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:15 pm ----------------------------------- Ah, that's not hairy... that's nothing! On a related note, does anybody have hairy legs? If not, is it because you shave them? ----------------------------------- Paul Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:50 pm ----------------------------------- Dwarfs are good and all, but elves are so much faster and sneakier. I say the elves win, unless it's a drinking contest. And unless it's a Lord of the Rings movie ;) "I feel a tingling sensation in my fingers" And yes, hairy legs. Aren't you greek? then you're extra hairy :P Greek girls are hot :D ----------------------------------- Mazer Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:59 pm ----------------------------------- And yes, hairy legs. Aren't you greek? then you're extra hairy :P Yeah, it's just that, some people are a bit surprised if I show them my legs. ----------------------------------- Rasta Fella Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:41 pm ----------------------------------- Pirates=Old School but still beat Ninjas ----------------------------------- chrispminis Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:43 pm ----------------------------------- Pirates are cool, but being that I, myself am a ninja, ninjas win. For many good reasons, and for even more not so good reasons. and the dwarves vs. elves i present: Dwarves should win, except the laws of Hollywood state that the pretty boys can't lose. Thus elves would beat dwarves simply because the have orlando bloom and hes not allowed to lose (did you see him kill the oliphant?! RIDICULOUS). Anyways, IMO dwarves are cooler cuz there funny and tell you stuff instead of friggin cryptics like legolas going "That's no orc horn". plus dwarves have the power of wielding hefty axes. Hefty axe > elvish toad sticker. Im pretty sure a dwarf could tank all the pins the elves throw at em. So while dwarves should win, elves win by default because of the pretty boy law stated above. ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:56 pm ----------------------------------- Ninja's pwn pirates anyday, anytime, anywhere and anyhow. Because I said so. :lol: lol ----------------------------------- md Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:01 pm ----------------------------------- Ninja's pwn pirates anyday, anytime, anywhere and anyhow. Because I said so. :lol: lol You don't count. Because I say so :P @chrispminis: orlando also plays a pirate (but not a ninja); therefor by your logic pirates win :D ----------------------------------- Cervantes Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:30 pm ----------------------------------- Ninja's pwn pirates anyday, anytime, anywhere and anyhow. Because I said so. :lol: lol It's these kind of ninja fanboy comments that make pirates win. ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:09 am ----------------------------------- Now now there where whould we be with out ninja looters? ----------------------------------- md Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:25 am ----------------------------------- Ninja looters steal one or two things; Pirates steal the entire ship. And the people on it. ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:23 pm ----------------------------------- There are good ninjas, ever heard about a good pirates? @Cervantes: If you are going to give me 1 example of a good pirate, that wont be enough, because I am talking generally not specifically. ----------------------------------- md Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:43 pm ----------------------------------- I am a less then evil pirate... usually considered to be good. Cervantes isn't evil and he's a pirate... Obviously you have thought too little about pirates and been pulled in bu the lure of the evil ninjas. ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:55 pm ----------------------------------- um, I said generally speaking :? You guys aren't pirates, pirates are pirates, and ninjas are ninjas, now for those people, I was talking about :S, anyways, the % of good ninjas > % of good pirates. ----------------------------------- person Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:31 pm ----------------------------------- You guys aren't pirates, pirates are pirates, and ninjas are ninjas, now for those people, I was talking about :S, anyways, the % of good ninjas > % of good pirates. srry, real ninjas dont exist anymore ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:05 pm ----------------------------------- Real pirates dont exist anymore, but if you give me an example or an article saying "This pirate, blah blah, is in blah blah and still exists" please save it, because I am speaking generally not specifically -_- ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:07 pm ----------------------------------- we're all priates.. when it comes to software :lol: ----------------------------------- rizzix Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:40 pm ----------------------------------- We're all ninjas when it comes to coding. :) ----------------------------------- Mazer Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:16 pm ----------------------------------- We're all anti-trees when it comes to breathing. :o ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:15 pm ----------------------------------- we're all greek who look like terrorists.. oh wait no we're not, just you coutsos ----------------------------------- Cervantes Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:15 pm ----------------------------------- Real pirates dont exist anymore, but if you give me an example or an article saying "This pirate, blah blah, is in blah blah and still exists" please save it, because I am speaking generally not specifically -_- What about the ones that shot at that cruise ship a while back? Yes, I read the second part of your sentance, and I am willfully, and safely, ignoring it. ----------------------------------- Mazer Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:39 pm ----------------------------------- we're all greek who look like terrorists.. oh wait no we're not, just you coutsos OMG, you suck at this so badly. ----------------------------------- codemage Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:10 am ----------------------------------- Captain Henry Morgan was a good pirate. From answers.com His operations were always marked by brutality and debauchery, but were sometimes executed with skill against great odds. Sent (1672) as a prisoner to England on complaints of piracy, he soon became a hero, was knighted (1673), and was made lieutenant governor of Jamaica, where he spent the rest of his life and was acting governor (1680-82). ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:37 pm ----------------------------------- Real pirates dont exist anymore, but if you give me an example or an article saying "This pirate, blah blah, is in blah blah and still exists" please save it, because I am speaking generally not specifically -_- ----------------------------------- md Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:25 pm ----------------------------------- Real pirates dont exist anymore, but if you give me an example or an article saying "This pirate, blah blah, is in blah blah and still exists" please save it, because I am speaking generally not specifically -_- Nice; quoting yourself and not adding anything useful... Brilliant. Pirates FTW! ----------------------------------- Mazer Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:39 pm ----------------------------------- To be fair, he's not officially a member of the ninja team. Really, we didn't pick him. ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:53 pm ----------------------------------- Real pirates dont exist anymore, but if you give me an example or an article saying "This pirate, blah blah, is in blah blah and still exists" please save it, because I am speaking generally not specifically -_- Nice; quoting yourself and not adding anything useful... Brilliant. No, quoting myself and proving the repli(ers)? of my post something. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:11 pm ----------------------------------- Real pirates dont exist anymore, but if you give me an example or an article saying "This pirate, blah blah, is in blah blah and still exists" please save it, because I am speaking generally not specifically -_- Nice; quoting yourself and not adding anything useful... Brilliant. No, quoting myself and proving the repli(ers)? of my post something. No, you're not proving anything. The reason you said for us to not come back with examples is because you don't want to be proven wrong. Brilliant. And in case you didn't notice: Yes, I read the second part of your sentance, and I am willfully, and safely, ignoring it. ----------------------------------- md Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:23 pm ----------------------------------- It's almost like he's not reading our posts except the parts that don't show how dumb he is... ----------------------------------- Dan Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:31 pm ----------------------------------- Ack, i whont some real debate so here gose somthing: I think ninja are better b/c unlike piraites who use burt force and losts of men they are highly trained and use few peoleop to sealty do the job. Witch makes me think they are more effsient. Harder to find so harder to get revengen on and you lose less resorces/men per atack. Tho on the other side of that if u do lose a ninja it is going to hurt alot more then losing a few pirates. My bet that is a ninja could take a pirate one on one but when do u ever see just one pirate? What if we had a pirate ship filled with ninjas? So we whould have ninja pirates that saild the seas and ninja looted other ships in the night. They whould be unstopable!!! HAHAHHAHA! ----------------------------------- Cervantes Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:45 pm ----------------------------------- Ninjas who sail the seas, looting other ships, eh? I don't see how they could stealthily sneak aboard another ship. Unless they can walk on water, of course. :lol: I wonder how many times I've referenced that, in this thread, thus far? ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:28 am ----------------------------------- Yes, I read the second part of your sentance, and I am willfully, and safely, ignoring it. That is specifically why I quoted myself. It's almost like he's not reading our posts except the parts that don't show how dumb he is... hey, I didnt start it, I just reflected my opinion, isn't this what this thread was all about? Has no one ever taught you not to gang up on a noob? ----------------------------------- axej Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:17 am ----------------------------------- Ninjas who sail the seas, looting other ships, eh? I don't see how they could stealthily sneak aboard another ship. Unless they can walk on water, of course. :lol: I wonder how many times I've referenced that, in this thread, thus far? well u see. thats y there are stow aways, people dont always notice those, i guess. so pirates exercise stealth when another ship is docked on land, i suppose. now ninjas on the other hand exercise stealth constantly and are therefore more skilled. ----------------------------------- MihaiG Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:12 pm ----------------------------------- i disagree ninjas suck and so do pirates.. i go with guerillas i mean who cna defeat cuban battlion when the guerillas are outnumbered at least 10-1 :twisted: :!: :!: :!: :!: ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:25 pm ----------------------------------- i mean who cna defeat cuban battlion when the guerillas are outnumbered at least 10-1 :twisted: :!: :!: :!: :!: I'm going to go with, "Ninjas or pirates." ----------------------------------- Mazer Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:14 pm ----------------------------------- I think a bunch of Gorillas could do some damage too. ----------------------------------- batman Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:27 pm Pirates vs Ninjas ----------------------------------- Pirates, well most of them anyways, have guns and cannons and they'ed blow up ninjas anyday. Ninjas only have swords! :twisted: ----------------------------------- Mazer Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:53 pm ----------------------------------- Ridiculous! I'm going to ignore most of the errors you made in that statement and ask you to consider this: do you really think that combat is the Ninjas main style of attack? ----------------------------------- batman Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:14 pm ninjas vs pirates ----------------------------------- I know combat is not there main style of attack but as long as pirates live on ships in the water, ninjas can't touch them and if ninjas do get close to a pirates ship, the pirates have cannons. But if ninjas did fight in combat there no match for guns. ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:55 pm ----------------------------------- Yes but what happens when its a fair fight? No weapons? or worse yet, ninjas get guns =O? The pirates cant walk properly neither see. ----------------------------------- Dan Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:02 pm Re: ninjas vs pirates ----------------------------------- I know combat is not there main style of attack but as long as pirates live on ships in the water, ninjas can't touch them and if ninjas do get close to a pirates ship, the pirates have cannons. But if ninjas did fight in combat there no match for guns. Considering most ninhas don't live in areas where there aucatly where pirates or have boats or live on/under the sea the same could be side about pirates touching ninjas unless they where to leave there boats and run threw atachent chaina/jappen area. Also ninjas and priates did not exists in the same time periodes. If you where to put them in the same you whould have to upgrade the ninjas weaponds. But even if u did'nt they whould still have there statrs, smoke bombs and other fun tools. Can't shoot what you can't see. ----------------------------------- Mazer Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:54 pm Re: ninjas vs pirates ----------------------------------- ninjas can't touch them and if ninjas do get close to a pirates ship, the pirates have cannons You seem to believe that a ninja would have to go to the ship to get anything done. Furthermore, let's just clear up the ninja image. What does a ninja look like? Possibly Asian, dressed in black, face mostly covered with a mask? Maybe. If it's dark, and they want to blend in with the darkness (but even then, it'd probably be just really dark blue or green). But did ninjas do everything at night? Heck no. If they lived by those rules, they'd have only kicked half as much ass. They can take care of business whenever necessary. Write this down, kids: stealth != invisible ----------------------------------- person Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:03 pm ----------------------------------- how about comparing 17th century pirates to 5th century ninjas, we compare 5th century pirates to 5th century ninjas? ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:27 pm ----------------------------------- Why compare differences by more than 12 centuries? We all know if a pirate fights ninja fairly i.e with no help and no weapons. He cant even see the ninja cause hes half blind and cant catch up with ninja cause he misses a leg. Ninja on the other hand is capable of making moves that are hard to follow. What is a pirates power? Getting drunk? and relying on help to save him? Face it guys, when dueled fairly, ninja would their @$$. A pirate can never solely defeat a ninja. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:42 pm ----------------------------------- Let's start here, for it is a classic example of the kind of misinformed, fanboy stereotyping you're doing: Not all pirates have peg legs, you know. ----------------------------------- Dan Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:45 am ----------------------------------- Let's start here, for it is a classic example of the kind of misinformed, fanboy stereotyping you're doing: Not all pirates have peg legs, you know. Ya some are just missing an eye and lack deepth persection! :twisted: ----------------------------------- md Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:06 am ----------------------------------- Geez you people are mis-informed. The majority of pirates are perfectly healthy, cept for a few missing teeth. A pirate is just like any other seaman, 'cept that instead of fighting for a country he fights for himself and his fellow pirates. And in fact, a privateer could be considered a pirate who is smart enough to pay off the government, and there are many famous privateers. Sir Francis Drake anyone? ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:23 am ----------------------------------- Han Solo vs. Elrond ;) ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:24 pm ----------------------------------- Let's start here, for it is a classic example of the kind of misinformed, fanboy stereotyping you're doing: Not all pirates have peg legs, you know. Not all ninjas have the same common things mentioned earlier in the thread. ----------------------------------- batman Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:48 pm Pirates Vs Ninjas ----------------------------------- Ninjas and Pirates are no match for BATMAN! :D ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:21 pm ----------------------------------- Maybe pirates are no match for batman but ninjas "eat" bats. ----------------------------------- batman Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:24 pm Ninjas Vs Pirates ----------------------------------- Batman is not a bat he's a man dress up like a bat! :D ----------------------------------- Mazer Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:53 pm ----------------------------------- Ugh, ninjas don't eat bugs. ----------------------------------- Booya Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:11 pm Ninjas Vs Pirates ----------------------------------- Ninjas and Pirates can compete with a modern day soldier especially if that soldier has a machine gun or better yet a rocket launcher. ----------------------------------- [Gandalf] Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:23 pm ----------------------------------- They can compete? Well, ninjas could. You see, pirates basically use the same means as modern soldiers: shoot from afar and pillage, except the soldiers would obviously have higher firepower. Ninjas, on the other hand, by the time the soldiers knew they were being attacked they would have a katana sticking through them. ----------------------------------- batman Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:27 pm Soldiers ----------------------------------- Soldiers would win ninjas anyday well at least with there weapons of course. Tanks, rocket launchers, etc. :D ----------------------------------- Mazer Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:21 pm ----------------------------------- I give up on you all. ----------------------------------- Booya Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:41 pm Ninjas vs Pirates ----------------------------------- Oops, I mean't ninjas can't compete with soldiers. :D This poll should have a bigger list to choose from! Not just pirates and ninjas. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:08 pm ----------------------------------- I give up on you all. Pirates FTW! I guess that means Elrond wins, too. ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:06 pm ----------------------------------- no he means hes tired of people still ignoring the fact how ninjas can own pirates in a duel. ----------------------------------- batman Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:41 pm Ninjas Vs Pirates ----------------------------------- no he means hes tired of people still ignoring the fact how ninjas can own pirates in a duel. If ninjas and Pirates were on a one on one duel pirates would take out there pistols, modern day pirates have sub machine guns by the way, and would BLOW OFF NINJAS HEADS anyday! :D ----------------------------------- axej Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:23 pm Re: Ninjas Vs Pirates ----------------------------------- no he means hes tired of people still ignoring the fact how ninjas can own pirates in a duel. If ninjas and Pirates were on a one on one duel pirates would take out there pistols, modern day pirates have sub machine guns by the way, and would BLOW OFF NINJAS HEADS anyday! :D sub machine guns? isnt that slightly unfair? to balance this out i suppose ninjas will need a tech buff how about titanium quad implants and prosthetic forearm extenders? now who's gonna win? ninjas of course! ----------------------------------- Cervantes Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:25 pm ----------------------------------- no he means hes tired of people still ignoring the fact how ninjas can own pirates in a duel. ... I give up on you all. ----------------------------------- batman Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:45 pm Ninjas vs Pirates ----------------------------------- Modern day pirates have ROCKET LAUNCHERS! Lets see ninjas win now! :D ----------------------------------- axej Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:01 pm Re: Ninjas vs Pirates ----------------------------------- Modern day pirates have ROCKET LAUNCHERS! Lets see ninjas win now! :D :roll: you do realize that this is going nowhere,yes? ----------------------------------- batman Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:14 pm Ninjas Vs Pirates ----------------------------------- I know that I was just having fun lol. :D :D :D ----------------------------------- Mark_Tran Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:42 pm Ninjas ----------------------------------- Ninjas with stealth gear and enhanced 10 metre long torches will own pirates anyday. ----------------------------------- [Gandalf] Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:59 pm ----------------------------------- Haha... pirates with rocket launchers + ninjas = kamikaze pirates. ----------------------------------- codemage Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:08 am ----------------------------------- If the UN allows ninjas to develop a nuclear program, it's a worldwide game over for pirates. ----------------------------------- batman Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:05 pm UN ----------------------------------- Pirates could steal a nuke and bomb ninjas anyday! :D ----------------------------------- Dan Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:14 pm ----------------------------------- How the heck whould priates atack a landlocked nucler systems devlopment plant that has walls so thik they can gured agisted a plain being flown in to them? ----------------------------------- batman Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:57 pm Nukes ----------------------------------- Well, nukes are usually transported by sea so the pirates would just steal there I guess. :D ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:33 pm ----------------------------------- typically a thing they would do, instead of ninjas who steal by atleast putting a fair fight with some dignity. ----------------------------------- Dan Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:19 am Re: Nukes ----------------------------------- Well, nukes are usually transported by sea so the pirates would just steal there I guess. :D Do i even whout to where u pulled that one out of? I whould think very few nukes are trasported out of the controy they are made in. The only big excetion i could see to this whould be figther plans that caire nukes and nukeral subs. Witch both are out or reach of the pirates. If any one could steal a nuke it whould be a nija, since burt force whould get you killed in a case like this (where you are agisted a big highly armred and surece instaltaion). ----------------------------------- codemage Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:37 am ----------------------------------- Well... nukes aren't usually transported over sea at all, AFAIK; it's neither safe nor efficient. Nuclear fuel - yes. In fact, that's how Israel got their program started; by pirating a Russian supply shipment. ----------------------------------- Big Daddy Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:37 am ----------------------------------- well let me tell you something your all nerds why dont you fuck eachother your all dorky bitchs ohh pretending your hackers dorks! dorks! your mom in the bed ohyeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! 8-) ----------------------------------- codemage Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:09 am ----------------------------------- I'm sorry, I don't quite understand what you're getting at. You should try out this new thing called "grammar", it's been known to boost comprehension by as much as 100%. I mean... "pretending your hackers"... Pretending my hackers what? I don't even own a hacker. Plus, you're posting in the wrong thread. This has nothing to do with pirates. ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:51 pm ----------------------------------- Sweet, new content for my hate mail page. P.S. my hackers hit then ban buttion on your name. ----------------------------------- axej Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:09 pm ----------------------------------- Sweet, new content for my hate mail page. lol :lol: funny the guy only made two posts XD back to ninjas, yeah they own pirates ----------------------------------- md Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:48 am ----------------------------------- Nukes? I think ninja's in the context of this thread can be assumed to be the ninjas of the pre-industrial revolution. What would they know about nukes? Nothing! Pirates are equally innept when it comes to nuclear weapons; but at least they have much less distance to cover technologically. Thus nukes = Pirates FTW! ----------------------------------- Andy Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:37 am ----------------------------------- Ninja's are from japan, and china will never allow japan to have nukes ----------------------------------- Albrecd Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:42 am ----------------------------------- Nukes? I think ninja's in the context of this thread can be assumed to be the ninjas of the pre-industrial revolution. What would they know about nukes? Nothing! Therefore they would accidentally cause a Nuclear Winter, which would freeze all bodies of water and THEN what would the Pirates do? ----------------------------------- Mazer Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:54 am ----------------------------------- Ninja's are from japan O RLY? The people were from Japan, but (unless I've got this wrong), it was in China that they learned their Ninja ways. ----------------------------------- codemage Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:44 pm ----------------------------------- I'm not entirely sure about that. The culture of Japan & China developed very similarly in parallel (with some contact, of course), but there was never an emergence of ninja, as it were. That's just how a lot of compat & subterfuge was done until the bushido code appeared in Japan and made the dishonorable style of killing different from the norm. ----------------------------------- md Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:51 pm ----------------------------------- Ultimate reason of pirates winning: Parrots. Parrots with dagers even. Parrots with dagers on the shoulders of Pirates with cutlasses in their mouths and with pistols in hand; being fired from cannons at ninjas. I think pirates win. ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:05 pm ----------------------------------- Yes but to make it a fair fight, with no weapons/help, pirates cant even see ninjas and cant run =\ ----------------------------------- Amailer Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:09 pm ----------------------------------- How can you still have a discussion on this topic? Its fairly simple, Ninjas own- you and everyone else. Lets just leave it at that. ----------------------------------- md Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:10 pm ----------------------------------- Yes but to make it a fair fight, with no weapons/help, pirates cant even see ninjas and cant run =\ How is that a fair fight? That's just disabling the pirate and not the ninja, not fair at all. Besides the whole idea of pirates is that they don't fight fair. ----------------------------------- rizzix Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:31 pm ----------------------------------- Ultimate reason of pirates winning: Parrots. Parrots with dagers even. Parrots with dagers on the shoulders of Pirates with cutlasses in their mouths and with pistols in hand; being fired from cannons at ninjas. I think pirates win. What the heck// I want to see a parrot lifting a dagger... I'm sure i'll laugh out silly watching that brid even try.. ----------------------------------- md Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:41 pm ----------------------------------- Ultimate reason of pirates winning: Parrots. Parrots with dagers even. Parrots with dagers on the shoulders of Pirates with cutlasses in their mouths and with pistols in hand; being fired from cannons at ninjas. I think pirates win. What the heck// I want to see a parrot lifting a dagger... I'm sure i'll laugh out silly watching that brid even try.. They are exceptionally strong parrots... and small daggers... besides; sparrows can carry cocanuts! Parrots are bigger and daggers weigh less! ----------------------------------- timmytheturtle Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:09 pm ----------------------------------- besides; sparrows can carry cocanuts! African or Eurpoian sparrow? ----------------------------------- MysticVegeta Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:59 pm ----------------------------------- Yes but to make it a fair fight, with no weapons/help, pirates cant even see ninjas and cant run =\ How is that a fair fight? That's just disabling the pirate and not the ninja, not fair at all. Besides the whole idea of pirates is that they don't fight fair. What I meant was disable both of their weapons