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the_short1
Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:58 pm

Firefox Extension: FirefoxIE !! YUCK!! Disgusting!
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!!! horible!!!! .. .who would acually use that peice of crap!!!!let alone make it !!!!!   ugh!! the whole purpose of firefox is NOT to be like IE and look like CRAP. . and . .. .  SUCK>...  and have TOOLBARS !!.. . like commmon!!!!

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wtd
Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:14 pm


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But this is wonderful for people working in OSS-hostile environments where using Firefox entitles an employee to one free berating.  :)

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Hikaru79
Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:46 pm


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Wow, this is awesome. We're not allowed to use Firefox at school (although it would be insanely easy to install it anyway. Then there's just the risk of one of the teachers noticing it). But with this, there's absolutely no way that a casual glance over will betray anything :D

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Amailer
Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:30 pm


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Wow, this is awesome. We're not allowed to use Firefox at school (although it would be insanely easy to install it anyway. Then there's just the risk of one of the teachers noticing it). But with this, there's absolutely no way that a casual glance over will betray anything :D
WHy arn't you allowed to? I use it- my teacher calls it "Fireball"  :roll:

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brenn
Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:58 pm


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WHy arn't you allowed to? I use it- my teacher calls it "Fireball"  :roll:

My parents call it Mosie.  :D

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Hikaru79
Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:04 am


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Wow, this is awesome. We're not allowed to use Firefox at school (although it would be insanely easy to install it anyway. Then there's just the risk of one of the teachers noticing it). But with this, there's absolutely no way that a casual glance over will betray anything :D
WHy arn't you allowed to? I use it- my teacher calls it "Fireball"  :roll:

Why? Because the "security" measures our school has in place (not being able to download anything, for one) are non-existant for any browser besides IE (and even there, it's very easy to find workarounds).

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StarGateSG-1
Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:52 pm


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I have to agree with short I tryed this once and the first site I went to it downloaded a virus becasue It doesn't have good IT security. Ending result ...
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All it is is someelse trying to make money there are enough ones out there already. On top of everything I did A speed test IE was 4 times faster than Firefox that is on the same computer

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the_short1
Tue May 24, 2005 10:56 am


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umm,...  Firefox takes 4x to load (program).. but if you tab your pages.. the pages load twice as fast.. .. and less pop-ups and ads taht steal bandwidth!

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Maverick
Tue May 24, 2005 3:41 pm


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Thats actually quite useful.

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Notoroge
Wed May 25, 2005 9:42 am


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Reasons I use FireFox:

AdBlock
Mouse Gestures
Developer tools (plugins)
Standards compliant (If your site doesn't work on FF, then it's not standards compliant)


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wtd
Wed May 25, 2005 11:35 am


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Standards compliant (If your site doesn't work on FF, then it's not standards compliant)

I like Firefox too, but while it implements the standards it does nicely, it doesn't implement them all.  Look at Apple's Safari for some really cutting edge stuff.

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Martin
Wed May 25, 2005 2:37 pm


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I believe that Safari (or at least a development version of it) was the first and only browser to pass the Acid2 test.

Lynx'll get there...just wait...

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rizzix
Wed May 25, 2005 10:58 pm


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lynx ??  haha...

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Martin
Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:54 am


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I was thinking about this, and I'm not sure if browsers striving to pass the Acid2 test is a good thing.

For the same reason that IE's bad implimentation of the standards makes for a lot of poorly written websites, having browsers that handle broken CSS in the same way would inevitably lead to there being more broken CSS.

Just a thought.

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rizzix
Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:24 am


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yes martin once again you make no sense..  :?

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md
Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:56 am


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it makes perfect sense! Browsers which handle bad CSS => more bad CSS as people don't have to get it right.

I don't know how big a deal it'll be though, at least not right away; as the only browsers that actually support the standards in their entirety make up a very small portion of the actual browsers in use.

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rizzix
Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:28 pm


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what is the acid2 test? isin't it to test and see if the browser follows the "standards".. and if its is so:

if the browser passes the acid2 test its is standards compliant. if more browsers are standards compliant then this forces the better development of standards compliant websites.

hence its is better if more browsers pass the so called acid test. (thus contridicting martin's statement) (i really dont "get" ur arguemnt)

hence you guys really dont make any sense

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Martin
Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:42 pm


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Part of the standard is how a browser handles bad CSS, which is what the Acid2 test primarily tests and this is why almost every browser fails the test. I think that this is a good thing,

Standards are good. Well coded websites should all render the same way in any browser. Brokenly coded websites, on the other hand, shouldn't (although the standards say that they should).

If all browsers passed the Acid2 test, it would mean that all browsers rendered broken CSS in the same way. This would inevitably result in there being more broken CSS.

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rizzix
Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:13 pm


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ic ic.. ok.

well from what i read.. acid2 basically incorporates browser specific data  from various browsers, amalgamating it into one standard.. in other words.. acid2 can be thought of a standard it self. (an extenstion of the W3C standard)
