----------------------------------- Flikerator Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:06 pm Mouse Roller? ----------------------------------- Is there anyway to use turing to detect the mouse roller? I want to roll it up and the weapon switches. I just need to know if it can detect it. I know if you press it with multibuttons you get 10 but I want to ROLL it up or down to switch between weapons in your inv. I just need to know if its possible. ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:39 pm ----------------------------------- Sure it is. I knew someone in my last computer science class that basicly made a game based on mouse gestures (like the mouse gestures extension on FireFox). Basicly, you detect the bunch of the mouse's position within a short period of time, and if the slope of the lines between 2 points comes close to your predefined range, then you execute your change weapon procedure. ----------------------------------- Flikerator Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:56 pm ----------------------------------- Thats pretty cool, reminds my of black and white. Great game :P But im talking about rolling that round thing on your mouse, not the ball underneat. I mean the thing that moves the side bar go up and down. Not all mouses have them though, but most nowadays do. http://images.tigerdirect.ca/SKUimages/medium/A450-2200-main3.jpg Like that thing in the center. If its possible can you tell me how? ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:36 am ----------------------------------- oh, you mean the scroll button, well, that's even easier, the answer is: No (at least not to my knowledge). Don't you hate turing now :P ----------------------------------- jamonathin Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:41 pm ----------------------------------- aw that sux, that'd be cool if you could . . . :( ----------------------------------- Flikerator Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:03 pm ----------------------------------- Darn that sux I dont hate turing though ^^ :P ----------------------------------- jamonathin Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:16 pm ----------------------------------- yeah man, turning's what boosts my average :D, nice lil 100% in comp sci fills in for my 50's in eng. ----------------------------------- Genesis Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:04 pm ----------------------------------- yeah man, turning's what boosts my average :D, nice lil 100% in comp sci fills in for my 50's in eng. I hope you don't plan on going to university with a 50 in english. Because your knowledge of Turing won't get you very far. ----------------------------------- jamonathin Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:07 pm ----------------------------------- lol nah. i just need over a 60 in it (which im hopin to do) and im gonna go to college and go into their comp programming course then the comp prog. analyst, which is supposed to be for game making, which'll be cool :) ----------------------------------- Flikerator Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:37 pm ----------------------------------- I hate my comps teacher. I got everything in the class 100% and he takes marks off because I didn't add enough extras. He said since I excelled I should have done more to improve on the work, more then I alread have. I tell you there isn't much you can do to a cashier program cept mess with the colours... Oh well I pulled a 90% and that brougt my average up a bit, I get near 90 in english so :P ----------------------------------- Cervantes Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:17 pm ----------------------------------- I tell you there isn't much you can do to a cashier program cept mess with the colours... Learn [url=http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?t=5254]RGB. Make a nice introduction. Try fading a picture in and out (it's in Zster's tutorial). Also, try using your own GUI, not Turing's built in stuff. :) ... :shifty: ----------------------------------- Flikerator Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:39 pm ----------------------------------- I tell you there isn't much you can do to a cashier program cept mess with the colours... Learn Learning GUI beggining of grade 9? Thats tough lolz ----------------------------------- jamonathin Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:49 am ----------------------------------- man, i feel so dumb, because im in gr.12 comp sci, and all of these other people are starting in gr.9, and by the time they get to gr.12 they'll be haXoRz, and i started juss last year in gr 11 :? ----------------------------------- Tony Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:26 am ----------------------------------- all of these other people are starting in gr.9 Amailer started in grade 7~8 :wink: But you still have quite an advantage over younger programmers because of other courses you already took. Most notably trig and physics. ----------------------------------- Martin Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:20 am ----------------------------------- I started in grade 10. I got into Waterloo with a 50ish in physics. Go me. Now I have an 80 in it :) ----------------------------------- Flikerator Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:16 pm ----------------------------------- I started in grade 10. I got into Waterloo with a 50ish in physics. Go me. Now I have an 80 in it :) Good news for me cause I have high marks lolz. I also won the waterloo math contest they have in all the schools :P They told me I won but didn't say wheather it was in my school or the whole thing, I got 98% so I would assume the school as you can get over 100%. They wouldnt let me compete this year because I had math second semester, im mad grr >.< Oh well always next year. But you still have quite an advantage over younger programmers because of other courses you already took I would say my advantage is they are not obsessed and practise everyday lolz ^^ I wish I had started earlier, but I never heard of turing and nobody would help me with C :/ ----------------------------------- person Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:35 pm ----------------------------------- wich math contest (name)? i did Gauss twice before they'r easy got perfect on the first one, and 1 wrong on the second. screwed up on Pascal though i dont know wat i got ----------------------------------- Flikerator Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:08 pm ----------------------------------- wich math contest (name)? i did Gauss twice before they'r easy got perfect on the first one, and 1 wrong on the second. screwed up on Pascal though i dont know wat i got Yah Pascal I think. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:39 pm ----------------------------------- They told me I won but didn't say wheather it was in my school or the whole thing, I got 98% so I would assume the school as you can get over 100%. They wouldnt let me compete this year because I had math second semester, im mad grr >.< Err, you can't get over 100%. :? And, if they wouldn't let you compete, how did you win? You must be really good. :lol: Man, I'm confused. Regardless, if you guys are doing well in the Gauss/Pascal, great! But it gets progressively harder (and I don't mean because you need higher level math, it's really harder). Do some practice, every now and then, and you should do well on the Euclid. ----------------------------------- person Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:43 pm ----------------------------------- did anyone like get over 90% in Descartes? heard it was really hard and wats the waterloo page for constests? ----------------------------------- Mazer Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:05 am ----------------------------------- Here's a thought: Do you know how to set the number of mouse buttons in Turing? Something like Mouse.ButtonChoose(something here). See if you can set it to 5 buttons, and then the fourth and fifth buttons would correspond with scroll up and scroll down. (so, button 4 would be 10000 and button 5 would be 100000) ----------------------------------- Drakain Zeil Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:15 pm ----------------------------------- With some grade 10 math you can do a lot of cool things in programming. ----------------------------------- Flikerator Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:03 pm ----------------------------------- They told me I won but didn't say wheather it was in my school or the whole thing, I got 98% so I would assume the school as you can get over 100%. They wouldnt let me compete this year because I had math second semester, im mad grr >.< Err, you can't get over 100%. :? And, if they wouldn't let you compete, how did you win? You must be really good. :lol: Man, I'm confused. Regardless, if you guys are doing well in the Gauss/Pascal, great! But it gets progressively harder (and I don't mean because you need higher level math, it's really harder). Do some practice, every now and then, and you should do well on the Euclid. I competed last year, and this year I couldn't because I didn't have math first semester. Someone got 115% in the grade 11 math contest :roll: So I assumed you could in Pascal too. If you can't I did really well...Having 98% that is... So there is hope for mouse rolling? If anyone knows how to do it could you send me a small explanation? ----------------------------------- person Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:28 pm ----------------------------------- you do understand that 100% means perfect, so how can u get better than perfect?? did u mean 98 points instead of percent? EDIT: pardon me for my rudeness ----------------------------------- Flikerator Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:32 pm ----------------------------------- you do understand that 100% means perfect, so how can u get better than perfect?? did u mean 98 points instead of percent? EDIT: pardon me for my rudeness No they said I got 98%...If I didn't then they lied. :P I know 100% is perfect..im not 5 :P Im just going by what they said, by they I mean math teachers who got the results. Your not being rude :P ----------------------------------- Cervantes Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:28 pm ----------------------------------- Here's a thought: Do you know how to set the number of mouse buttons in Turing? Something like Mouse.ButtonChoose(something here). See if you can set it to 5 buttons, and then the fourth and fifth buttons would correspond with scroll up and scroll down. (so, button 4 would be 10000 and button 5 would be 100000) Nice idea, Coutsos. Unfortunately, when I tried it, Turing experienced a fatal error which then caused an error in kernal32, bringing me to the blue screen of death. Nice. So I restarted my computer, loaded Turing once again, retyped the code, then encountered another fatal error. I'm not trying it again. :lol: ----------------------------------- Flikerator Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:32 pm ----------------------------------- Why make the numbers so high? Make them like 1000, and -1000? ----------------------------------- Mazer Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:22 pm ----------------------------------- Cervantes: All the way to the BSOD, you say? Interesting. AsianSensation should like to hear that! Flikerator: My logic is in this: 1) Under Linux, the X server uses the mouse wheel by mapping the buttons as follows - left click is 1 - right click is 2 - middle click (wheel click) is 3 - mousewheel up is 4 - mousewheel down is 5 (though I may have the last 2 wrong) 2) Turing recognizes which mouse button is being pressed by an integer that, from what I could tell just goes by 10^(mouse button - 1). It's true for the first three, I thought I'd just take it from there. Ah well. Maybe the turing files could shed some light on this? Referring to one of the files that are automatically included, that is, not that silly semi-useless turing reference. ----------------------------------- Flikerator Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:39 pm ----------------------------------- var x, y, z : int Mouse.ButtonChoose ("multibutton") loop Mouse.Where (x, y, z) locate (1, 1) put x, " ", y, " ", z end loop When I roll my mouse the z value is 0. Can I make it take on a value? I use Windows... ----------------------------------- mike200015 Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:20 pm ----------------------------------- if you click the mouse wheel , then the z variable changes to 10... no clue what that means or nething.. jus thought ud like to know lol :P ----------------------------------- Flikerator Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:23 pm ----------------------------------- if you click the mouse wheel , then the z variable changes to 10... no clue what that means or nething.. jus thought ud like to know lol :P Yah I already know that, i need it ti be a value when I roll it though. ----------------------------------- McKenzie Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:02 am ----------------------------------- In the old DOS version the button numbers made sence because Turing would register more than one button being pressed. So for example: pressing left and right : 101 pressing left and right : 011 So it looks like there is one bit for each button. There in reverse order so that the left button is 1 for simplicity (mine you I don't find 100 all that complex.) ----------------------------------- Flikerator Sun Mar 06, 2005 3:11 pm ----------------------------------- You can't even do two buttons being pressed at once, which suks. It should add them up. If I right click and left click it should be 101...but its 1.. ----------------------------------- McKenzie Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:20 pm ----------------------------------- Right, like I said, it worked in the old DOS version. I'm pretty sure that it's not supported by the Windows API, so you can't really blame Holt for this one. ----------------------------------- Flikerator Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:38 pm ----------------------------------- Right, like I said, it worked in the old DOS version. I'm pretty sure that it's not supported by the Windows API, so you can't really blame Holt for this one. But...But...I play games and I use both clicks at once. *Is confused* ----------------------------------- McKenzie Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:25 pm ----------------------------------- OK, You can Kinda blame Holt. It is far from impossible to check both buttons. Windows will give an event each time either button goes up or down. All they had to do was track the status of the buttons. In DOS you do and Int21 and the mouse driver will give you the exact status. ----------------------------------- Andy Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:30 pm ----------------------------------- u sure u cant do it in a process?