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zylum
Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:00 pm

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[url=http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-11721-1480-x-x-x]wow :shock:

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Amailer
Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:02 pm


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hmm... yeah, came out some time ago in Japan........ and iunno I think it came out in American-- around Jan?

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zylum
Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:03 pm


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in america March 24 i believe

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Amailer
Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:54 pm


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oh, yeah. XD
Well.. I haven't tired it- don't think I will ever- I prefere comps XD

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[Gandalf]
Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:57 pm


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what? none of this makes sense to me... what is psp?  I thought it was Paint Shop Pro  :lol:

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wtd
Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:11 pm


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"]what? none of this makes sense to me... what is psp?  I thought it was Paint Shop Pro  :lol:

The Playstation Portable, Sony's handheld gaming console.  It's doomed to failure due to a number of factors, including, but not limited to:


Lack of compelling games
Trailing the Nintendo DS by a large margin in North American and Eurpoean launch dates
High price
MemoryStick capability, and the fact that such media is horribly expensive compared to SD or CF memory

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Mazer
Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:44 pm


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Other problems I've heard about were extremely short battery life and the weight.

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Martin
Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:45 pm


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It's $50 more than the DS.

Launch titles include a new GTA game, a new Metal Gear Solid game, Dynasty Warriors, Need For Speed, Tony Hawk, Final Fantasy.

Lots.

I really haven't seen anything come out that's worth buying a DS for yet.

Nintendo DS: 275g
Sony PSP: 260g

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Mazer
Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:46 pm


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Oh my goodness... are you serious about the MGS? Where can I buy this?

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Martin
Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:48 pm


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http://www.gamespot.com/psp/strategy/metalgearsolid/index.html

The battery life on the PSP according to most places is between 3 - 5 hours for gaming.

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Carino
Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:37 pm


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Oh my goodness... are you serious about the MGS? Where can I buy this?

Sorry to be the one to inform you, but the MGS for the PSP is a turn based card game. As in you use playing cards to move and attack... its not what you think.

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Mazer
Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:44 pm


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Oh my goodness... are you serious about the MGS? Where can I buy this?

Sorry to be the one to inform you, but the MGS for the PSP is a turn based card game. As in you use playing cards to move and attack... its not what you think.
So I see. I saw Martin's link. I was going to say disappointed as soon as I saw "turn based", but now I think disgusted would be more appropriate. Really, Dan, we need some sort of puke emoticon. I hope, for my sake, that Kojima wasn't directly involved in this farce.

Back to the PSP discussion:
Well, I've just lost all interest in buying one. But I wasn't that impressed by the DS either. Hopefully this will mean a drop in price for the GBA:SP and games.

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Carino
Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:51 pm


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Yea i was thinking about gettin a GBS:SP just because it is cheaper and has a wideeee array of awesome games for a good price. Compared to the DS which has a wideee array of... oh yea.. it has no good games.

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AsianSensation
Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:21 pm


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yeah, but the DS is capable of playing old GBA games, so your collection of good GBA titles are not going to waste, you can still play them off the DS.

Also, what do you mean no good titles? Metroid Prime: Hunters, Castlevania, Advance Wars DS, blah blah are all coming out.

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Martin
Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:11 am


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They're coming out. No idea how good they'll be.

The DS launch titles absolutely sucked.

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zylum
Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:26 am


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the price of the psp is $300 CND which is about the same as an ipod. with the psp you can play games, listen to music and watch movies... with the release titles, you can play multiplayer games and they say they will make games that you can play online. plus it looks *really* nice and has a huge screen and amazing graphics... i dunno, but i really dont think it will fail. game boy watch out!  :lol:

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wtd
Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:36 am


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the price of the psp is $300 CND which is about the same as an ipod. with the psp you can play games, listen to music and watch movies... with the release titles, you can play multiplayer games and they say they will make games that you can play online. plus it looks *really* nice and has a huge screen and amazing graphics... i dunno, but i really dont think it will fail. game boy watch out!  :lol:

It doesn't do the music thing nearly as well as the iPod (consider how much you'd have to invest in a Memory Stick on top of the cost of the PSP to get even a fraction of the capacity of an iPod), and there're a lot more people interested in playing music on the road than playing games in the same situation.  I don't think the PSP's future can be tied to the iPod's in any way.

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zylum
Sat Feb 26, 2005 2:54 am


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i dunno... the first day they released it in Japan, they had sold ALL 200000 copies! i think thats pretty successful. i know lots of people that want to buy one, not to mention me  :wink:

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brenn
Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:02 am


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I thought I saw that for sale at the mall here, but uh that could just be me going crazy.  It could also just be people importing things and selling them here before the American release date (Well, unless Canada has a separate date as the rest of "North America")  8D   Silly Asian people.

Anyways, one of my co-workers won't shut up about the PSP.   He claims he's going to get one, and tried to get me to do the same.    :roll:   Seeing as I don't.. really play games, he's given up for the time being.

But I still <

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Genesis
Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:03 am


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PSP is friggin' awesome. Like ya, you think it's pretty cool when you see it in pictures, but when you actually play it, it's pretty amazing. A friend of mine had his buddy in Taiwan send one over, I don't even know the language and I love it.

300 bucks is worth it for sure, it blows DS out of the water.

As for weight, I find it actually pretty light, and battery life is pretty good, nothing that I could see detering people from buying one.

I thought I saw that for sale at the mall here

And it's very likely that you didn't. Even if it was imported, as with the one I play...it wouldn't be in english anyways, I think most people would rather wait until March, than teach themselves Japanese.

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zylum
Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:19 am


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apparently the batteries last 3-10 hours depending on what youre playing.. if youre playing gt4 wirelessly with some of your friends then it will be closed to 3 hours because its more processor intesive and it has to read the discmore often. on the other hand if youre playing a simple puzzle game then it will last much longer. and the lithium ion battery takes 2 hours to fully charge!

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person
Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:37 pm


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the games coming out on the DS such as advance wars was already out before. their just adapting it

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brenn
Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:36 pm


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I thought I saw that for sale at the mall here

And it's very likely that you didn't. Even if it was imported, as with the one I play...it wouldn't be in english anyways, I think most people would rather wait until March, than teach themselves Japanese.

It's a Chinese mall =)   lol If I remember, I'll check again on Monday during lunch break at work XD

Three hours min. of battery life isn't bad...   Ehehee, now I want one just for the heck of it 8D   Does anybody know how much the games themselves would actually cost?  Plus, this is probably part of Sony's plan to lower game piracy, seeing as they're supposedly the only ones who can make those UMDs.

...The idea of modded PSPs, lol

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Genesis
Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:26 pm


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I thought I saw that for sale at the mall here

And it's very likely that you didn't. Even if it was imported, as with the one I play...it wouldn't be in english anyways, I think most people would rather wait until March, than teach themselves Japanese.

It's a Chinese mall =)   lol If I remember, I'll check again on Monday during lunch break at work XD 

Haha, that would make more sense then.

...The idea of modded PSPs, lol

And that will be pretty sweet.

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zylum
Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:35 am


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the hardware is really crammed into that thing. i dont know that a mod chip would fit inside  :wink:

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Genesis
Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:52 pm


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the hardware is really crammed into that thing. i dont know that a mod chip would fit inside  :wink:

True. But I'm sure someone will come up with something.

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Martin
Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:52 pm


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$30 - $50 US for a game apparently.

As for a mod chip, they'd have to release UMD burners first, which I don't think is going to happen.

PSP Emulators will be cool though.

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wtd
Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:51 pm


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As for a mod chip, they'd have to release UMD burners first, which I don't think is going to happen.

Exactly what prevents massive piracy for GameCube games.  If memory serves, Nintendo not only uses less common small DVDs, but also they're read in the opposite direction all other optical media are.

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Genesis
Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:17 am


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As for a mod chip, they'd have to release UMD burners first, which I don't think is going to happen.

Didn't think of that.
Oh well.

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Martin
Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:19 am


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As for a mod chip, they'd have to release UMD burners first, which I don't think is going to happen.

Exactly what prevents massive piracy for GameCube games.  If memory serves, Nintendo not only uses less common small DVDs, but also they're read in the opposite direction all other optical media are.

Definately, although Nintendo messed up with some game and, through a software glitch, it's possible to stream games from your computer and play them through the Gamecube.

I really like the idea of encapsulated media (ie. UMD), but the weirdest thing about it is that there's no slip cover like on a floppy disk.

Although honestly, I think that Nintendo's real win in their anti-piracy effort was to release games that nobody wanted to play. :P

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Mazer
Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:25 am


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What about Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes?  :P 
But I don't have a GameCube...

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Carino
Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:03 pm


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What about Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes?  :P 
But I don't have a GameCube...

Well its just MGS 1 revamped, so most people would have no urge to play it if they played the orignal on the PSX.

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Mazer
Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:53 pm


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I would. Loved the PSX game (can you tell?) and from my buddy I've heard there's some great things about this one. If I had a gamecube, I'd totally go for it.

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Martin
Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:10 am


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2 more days...

It looks like Sony's doing the right thing. The release line up is absolutely incredible (24 titles) and some of the games have been getting some really good reviews.

The only problem I can see them having is with the price. Time will tell.

What I want to see is how well the PSP stands as an mp3 player.

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Martin
Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:25 pm


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A bit of a review.

PSP vs. DS: http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/features/51343/Sony_PSP_vs_Nintendo_DS.html

DS vs. PSP: http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/features/51362/Nintendo_DS_vs_Sony_PSP.html

The Final Verdict: http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/features/51374/Verdict_Sony_PSP_vs_Nintendo_DS.html
