----------------------------------- w00t Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:14 am Norton Anti-Crap! ----------------------------------- Hey everyone, Norton has been installed on my computer thanks to my mom... its sad... does nyone know how to break the administrator "Shield of hate" so that i may install VC++ and other useful prgrams ???? thnX w00t ----------------------------------- MihaiG Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:33 am ----------------------------------- try editing in regedit ... that should keep it up from booting everytime u start ur comp??? or go to add/remove programs in control panel.... ----------------------------------- templest Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:07 am ----------------------------------- Er, You should feel blessed that you caught me on a good day. So I will refrain from making you cry; and instead, help! :shock: Press: "CTRL+ALT+DEL" then click "Task Manager", then go to the "Processes" tab and kill the processes that have to do with norton. It should kill it until the next reboot / login. It's good for temporarily getting rid of the netnanny type software when you need to install something. By your message I would assume you're less, if not, fourteen (No offence, Amailer. :P). So don't uninstall it, otherwise your mommy might have an ugly fit. So what I would do in your place, is what I did. Also, if all your mom wanted to block, was you installing crap on your computer, she could have easily just made a non-administration-capable account on the computer for you. So I would assume that norton app does stuff that Windows doesn't natively do. Like, oh, I dunno, block pr0n? We're all hackers here! If we catch you lookin' at porn on your computer, we'll DELETE YOUR HARDDRIVE! :twisted: Everyone, play along. ----------------------------------- w00t Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:21 pm ----------------------------------- LOL,,, im actually 17, and i have no need for the Pornographic side of the internet.. i need it for installing programs. C and C++ mostly. My computer is fried due to a sneaky trojan which i didn't catch on my anti-virus so im using my mothers computer for the next few weeks while i wait for new stuff to come in, it was time for some upgrades anyway,,, thanks for the help.. w00t ----------------------------------- wtd Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:32 pm ----------------------------------- LOL,,, im actually 17, and i have no need for the Pornographic side of the internet.. i need it for installing programs. C and C++ mostly. Don't use Visual C++ It's not that good at standards compliance, so you're learning more "Microsoft C and C++" rather than the C and C++ that the real world uses. The IDE will confuse you more than necessary. You'll confuse IDE features with language features. Use [url=http://mingw.org/]GCC instead. ----------------------------------- MihaiG Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:38 pm ----------------------------------- i have a C/C++ ill sell you it comes with its own demostration floppy a 5.25in floppy muwuwhahhaha... i also have progrmaming in Dos and other obsolete languages ----------------------------------- templest Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:27 pm ----------------------------------- Best deal is to just get Linux and use all the native compilers, ect. "gcc" hasn't failed me yet. :) ----------------------------------- Mazer Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:40 pm ----------------------------------- i have a C/C++ ill sell you... LMFAO. ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:49 pm ----------------------------------- bet ya money if you posted that in the classified section, idiots will call to buy it ----------------------------------- wtd Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:30 pm ----------------------------------- Best deal is to just get Linux and use all the native compilers, ect. "gcc" hasn't failed me yet. :) GCC, GNAT (Ada95), SmartEiffel, Ruby, Python, Perl, FreePascal, GNU Pascal, Hugs (Haskell), OCaml, etc. haven't exactly failed under Windows for me. However, it's not as easy to install them as it is with Linux. Everything's just an easy "apt-get" away. ----------------------------------- md Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:11 pm ----------------------------------- Or emerge for gentoo! I disagree about MSVC though, I personally think it's the best IDE available, mostly cause of the integrated debugger. For some reason I seem to use it alot :) ----------------------------------- wtd Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:34 am ----------------------------------- Or emerge for gentoo! I disagree about MSVC though, I personally think it's the best IDE available, mostly cause of the integrated debugger. For some reason I seem to use it alot :) Perhaps it is a good IDE, but the included compiler is absolute garbage when it comes to the C++ standard, and IDEs tend to just get in the way for new programmers. They spend all of their time figuring out which menu options to choose and in which order rather than how to make things work better in their programs. Also, the debugger should not be necessary for the kind of programs one would be writing when learning C++.