----------------------------------- josh Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:16 pm Should there be a hardware forum? ----------------------------------- the subject says it all. Should V3 have a forum for questions releating to hardware, technology, circuitry, engineering... ----------------------------------- Dan Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:40 pm ----------------------------------- Well it dose say compsci on the logo not comp engering but with the V3 update if it even hapens there will be more fourm space...... ----------------------------------- Andy Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:13 pm ----------------------------------- oooo :dance: :hb: :hb: :hb: :hb: :hb: :hb: :hb: :hb: :hb: :hb: can i have powers there? plz plz ----------------------------------- josh Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:46 pm ----------------------------------- I realize that it says compsci, but if ppl have problems with there PC's they could post there instead of in GD. Also, many ppl who take compsci also take engineering. IT was just a thought.... ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:50 pm ----------------------------------- We should just stick to using the GD for stuff like that ----------------------------------- Hikaru79 Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:37 pm ----------------------------------- I took comp eng this year, so I'm all for this idea :dance: Hacker Dan, I agree that Hardware isn't part of Compsci.ca's original scope... but the site has taken on a life of it's own since then, and people ARE posting questions about Hardware anyway. So instead of cluttering up the already-cluttered GD, a special forum for it sounds like a good idea ^ ^; Just my 0.02$. You're the boss :D (one of them) ----------------------------------- Paul Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:42 pm ----------------------------------- Yes, I'm also taking computer engineering. (stupid cisco course) but I can't complain since its easy marks. Hardware/ general computer problems forum would be welcome. ----------------------------------- wtd Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:22 pm ----------------------------------- Hardware and software are fundamentally intertwined. Without hardware, we can write all the code we want on whiteboards and notebook paper, but it's not getting us anywhere. Then again, without software, a $1,000 computer is just a silicon and metal doorstop. ----------------------------------- SuperGenius Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:11 pm ----------------------------------- I think that a hardware forum would be nice. ----------------------------------- Paul Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:22 pm ----------------------------------- If V3 ever comes out that is. Nothing directed towards dan, we're all busy. ----------------------------------- JHanson90 Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:39 pm ----------------------------------- I sometimes had hardware questions, and I too agree that software and hardware are intertwined. Plus it's sort of natural to find hardware questions on a software forum, anyway. I say "Aye" for a hardware forum. Speaking of version 3, though, what would really be nice is ... a miscellaneous language category ... and one of those forum boards be.................................... can you guess? RUBY! :D ----------------------------------- wtd Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:45 pm ----------------------------------- I sometimes had hardware questions, and I too agree that software and hardware are intertwined. Plus it's sort of natural to find hardware questions on a software forum, anyway. I say "Aye" for a hardware forum. Speaking of version 3, though, what would really be nice is ... a miscellaneous language category ... and one of those forum boards be.................................... can you guess? RUBY! :D Time for you to learn another language. Not that your enthusiasm is bad, but it's a good idea to expand your horizons so you realize why, and see good ideas that Ruby doesn't include. :) ----------------------------------- JHanson90 Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:50 pm ----------------------------------- This is sort of making the posts all off-topic, but in response, what language would you recommend? I mentioned a while back that O'Caml was next on my list, but you've mentioned multiple times that it was hard for you to learn, or it "blew your mind." Sort of discouraging, me not even having a year's experience in programming. Eiffel, maybe, umm... Java, no, ... hmm .... ? ----------------------------------- josh Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:03 pm ----------------------------------- java is pretty good, I took a two week course on it in the summer and I found that the basics where pretty easy to get. ----------------------------------- apomb Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:27 pm ----------------------------------- a hardware forum is a great idea! cuz even now, we do have a lot of people modding and making their own computers, snd it is difficult to find other threads on a topic in GD since there are so many other posts in between. :multi: :hb: ----------------------------------- wtd Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:51 pm ----------------------------------- This is sort of making the posts all off-topic, but in response, what language would you recommend? I mentioned a while back that O'Caml was next on my list, but you've mentioned multiple times that it was hard for you to learn, or it "blew your mind." Sort of discouraging, me not even having a year's experience in programming. Eiffel, maybe, umm... Java, no, ... hmm .... ? Well, O'Caml isn't as much hard to learn as it is different. If you're used to thinking in one way, O'Caml can be different enough to cause problems. Of course, it does have the interactive interpreter, which is wonderful for learning. A good one to learn might be Python. I have a Python basics thread in General Programming. :) ----------------------------------- JHanson90 Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:49 pm ----------------------------------- Well, O'Caml isn't as much hard to learn as it is different. If you're used to thinking in one way, O'Caml can be different enough to cause problems. Of course, it does have the interactive interpreter, which is wonderful for learning. Python might be ok. O'Reilly has a book on Programming Python, so learning it should be a snap. How useful is it? I haven't heard of many programs written in it. Also, although it's supposed to be interpreted, can it be compiled? All of the languages that I've been working with are scripting languages, and now Python included. I'd like some variety from that :) ----------------------------------- wtd Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:57 pm ----------------------------------- Python is compiled to an intermediate bytecode representation, similar to Java. In contrast, Ruby and Perl5 take the approach of interpreting the syntax tree that results from parsing your code. Both Ruby and Perl are moving (eventually) to virtual machine based approaches, similar to Python's. By the way, don't take this to mean there is a separate compile and run step. Running Python programs is as easy as running Ruby programs. Python is becoming wildly popular. Google, for instance, requires programmers they hire to know Java, but to make sure they're not just the result of a "Java for dummies" book, they also require a knowledge of Python. Industrial Light and Magic also uses Python heavily internally. In addition to books on the issue, there is a great deal of information available online for learning Python. It's a good language. Not as well-designed as Ruby by any means, but currently more popular, and still eminently useful. ----------------------------------- Tony Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:03 am ----------------------------------- come on guys, leave some room for the discussion about a hardware forum. :lol: ----------------------------------- wtd Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:05 am ----------------------------------- come on guys, leave some room for the discussion about a hardware forum. :lol: Forums that don't go wildly off-topic don't deserve to be on the internet. ;) ----------------------------------- josh Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:41 am ----------------------------------- compwis I lke your sig :D ----------------------------------- apomb Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:15 am ----------------------------------- haha, thanks. gotta love the LOTR theme of your avatar! but about the HARDWARE forum see, i stay on topic! :wink: ----------------------------------- josh Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:17 am ----------------------------------- i dunno, I jsut am aobbsessed with LOTR and I think Gollum is an amaizing character (both how he is described in the book and how they brought him to life in the movie)