----------------------------------- dsantamassino Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:00 pm wtd, what do u use for programming?? ----------------------------------- hi wtd, What programming languages u know?? What do u do?? r u a programmer?? Is coding different from programming but requires a knowledge of programming?? Do u have skills in building an full size kernel from group up including building the source code for the kernel?? Do u have the skills in building an advanced OS that is not command line and get windows applications to recognize?? Do u have the skills in all of that?? What do u have skills in?? ----------------------------------- Dan Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:33 pm ----------------------------------- dsantamassino, i have a question for you........have you ever hured of the PM system? ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:38 pm ----------------------------------- dsantamassino, i have a question for you........have you ever hured of the PM system? thats a joke. Of course but very lazy. lol. yea i go hit it right now. ----------------------------------- wtd Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:49 pm ----------------------------------- Oh, what the heck... other people might have been wondering the same. Programming languages I know, eh? Ruby Python Perl O'Caml C C++ Objective-C D Java Javascript Pascal Eiffel Pike SQL HTML/XHTML What do I do? I'm an independent computer consultant. I offer advice on home and small business computing, and provide guidance in implementing systems in these realms. This means I do a little of everything. I am an open source software advocate, and a fan of Apple computers. "Coding"? Programmers write source code. Source code is a form of computer language that's readable by humans. It gets translated into a language the processor itself can understand, called machine language. The "code" in the above is where we get the term "coding". However, much more goes into programming than just coding. Coding is the mechanical part of the process. For projects of any size, much more time should be given to analyzing the problem and planning how you're going to solve it. Once you figure this out, writing the code is easy. Building an OS? Sorry. I don't have the skills or the desire to tackle such a problem. What do I know? I know a great deal, and more importantly, I know how to go about learning more. I know my own capabilities, and I know my own limits. I know how to break problems down to make them easier to tackle. I know how to size up someone's needs and desires regarding computing and deliver an ideal solution within a given budget. ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:03 pm ----------------------------------- Oh, what the heck... other people might have been wondering the same. Programming languages I know, eh? Ruby Python Perl O'Caml C C++ Objective-C D Java Javascript Pascal Eiffel Pike SQL HTML/XHTML What do I do? I'm an independent computer consultant. I offer advice on home and small business computing, and provide guidance in implementing systems in these realms. This means I do a little of everything. I am an open source software advocate, and a fan of Apple computers. "Coding"? Programmers write source code. Source code is a form of computer language that's readable by humans. It gets translated into a language the processor itself can understand, called machine language. The "code" in the above is where we get the term "coding". However, much more goes into programming than just coding. Coding is the mechanical part of the process. For projects of any size, much more time should be given to analyzing the problem and planning how you're going to solve it. Once you figure this out, writing the code is easy. Building an OS? Sorry. I don't have the skills or the desire to tackle such a problem. What do I know? I know a great deal, and more importantly, I know how to go about learning more. I know my own capabilities, and I know my own limits. I know how to break problems down to make them easier to tackle. I know how to size up someone's needs and desires regarding computing and deliver an ideal solution within a given budget. Ok. So basically you can get me up to programming and after that im on my own finding someone to help me write an OS and build a kernel?? Is that the deal?? ----------------------------------- wtd Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:07 pm ----------------------------------- It'll be a long time before you're that good. :) But you can always look and get an idea of what you're asking about. http://www.inglorion.net/documents/tutorials/x86ostut/getting_started/ ----------------------------------- Neo Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:25 am ----------------------------------- You know all those languages but not turing?? :shock: How do you even remember all the commands for all of them?!? :shock: ----------------------------------- wtd Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:29 am ----------------------------------- Until I came here and decided to help out, I had no reason to use Turing. I have enough knowledge of it to help from time to time, now. And I have a lot of practice, whichhelps me remember a lot of the details of those languages, but mostly I know how to look for information I can't remember. Remember this: you're better off learning to use reference material than trying to memorize everything. ----------------------------------- Hikaru79 Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:30 am ----------------------------------- Eh, he knows Turing. Probably just forgot to list it. But he's got tutorials in the Turing forum, and he helps people from there and stuff. EDIT: Oops. Too late, you already answered ^ ^;; ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:14 pm ----------------------------------- It'll be a long time before you're that good. :) But you can always look and get an idea of what you're asking about. http://www.inglorion.net/documents/tutorials/x86ostut/getting_started/ Yeah i want to write source code for the hell of it. ----------------------------------- JHanson90 Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:11 pm ----------------------------------- Programming languages I know, eh? Ruby Python Perl O'Caml C C++ Objective-C D Java Javascript Pascal Eiffel Pike SQL HTML/XHTML Two questions: (1) What is Pike? (2) How long does it take for you to learn most languages (most meaning languages that aren't as complex as C++ or a few others)? EDIT: Another question; do you always make sure that your HTML or XHTML is totally standards compliant? How easy is it? I tried to, and found that I had to use CSS for like everything. If I may take a guess, I would say that you like Ruby the best. When asked what the best and most powerful programming languages there are, the very first one in your list was Ruby, and also in this list here of all that you know. Am I right? :) ----------------------------------- Martin Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:14 pm ----------------------------------- From my experience, the language that takes the longest to learn is the first one that you learn. After that, you know the methods, just not the syntax, and it's much easier to learn syntax than to learn a new concept. Right now, I'd say that I only *know* 3 languages, namely C++, Java and Turing. The next on my list to learn is ActionScript 2. ----------------------------------- wtd Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:56 pm ----------------------------------- Two questions: (1) What is Pike? (2) How long does it take for you to learn most languages (most meaning languages that aren't as complex as C++ or a few others)? Pike is an object-oriented language with a C-like syntax. It's most commonly used as a scripting language for Roxen's web server software. It varies, depending on how "rich" the syntax is, and how much it differs ideologically. One of the hardest for me to learn was O'Caml, as it embraces a functional paradigm. EDIT: Another question; do you always make sure that your HTML or XHTML is totally standards compliant? How easy is it? I tried to, and found that I had to use CSS for like everything. Honestly, I try to, but if a client isn't paying me all that much, or makes it clear that they don't care, I usually don't take the time. If I may take a guess, I would say that you like Ruby the best. When asked what the best and most powerful programming languages there are, the very first one in your list was Ruby, and also in this list here of all that you know. Am I right? :) Ruby is up there, but I enjoy a lot of languages. I enjoy the ideological purity of Ruby and Eiffel. I like the power of O'Caml and C++. It really depends on what mood I'm in and what I'm doing. ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:24 pm ----------------------------------- Oh, what the heck... other people might have been wondering the same. Programming languages I know, eh? Ruby Python Perl O'Caml C C++ Objective-C D Java Javascript Pascal Eiffel Pike SQL HTML/XHTML from the above list. I want to learn the following. Python Perl O'Caml C++ C Objective-C Java Javascript Pascal Pike SQL HTML XHTML and others u havent named i want to learn will be below CSS PHP Assembly. What do I do? I'm an independent computer consultant. I offer advice on home and small business computing, and provide guidance in implementing systems in these realms. This means I do a little of everything. I am an open source software advocate, and a fan of Apple computers. "Coding"? Programmers write source code. Source code is a form of computer language that's readable by humans. It gets translated into a language the processor itself can understand, called machine language. The "code" in the above is where we get the term "coding". However, much more goes into programming than just coding. Coding is the mechanical part of the process. For projects of any size, much more time should be given to analyzing the problem and planning how you're going to solve it. Once you figure this out, writing the code is easy. Building an OS? Sorry. I don't have the skills or the desire to tackle such a problem. What do I know? I know a great deal, and more importantly, I know how to go about learning more. I know my own capabilities, and I know my own limits. I know how to break problems down to make them easier to tackle. I know how to size up someone's needs and desires regarding computing and deliver an ideal solution within a given budget. ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:24 pm ----------------------------------- sorry but dont know how to quote well or how to quote part of a reply. ----------------------------------- apomb Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:51 am ----------------------------------- dsantamassino: use the What do I do? I'm an independent computer consultant. I offer advice on home and small business computing, and provide guidance in implementing systems in these realms. This means I do a little of everything. I am an open source software advocate, and a fan of Apple computers. you are my idol! How long have you been programming? ... you must be old well, older than the majority of us here ... cuz youre married right? ----------------------------------- wtd Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:37 am ----------------------------------- alrigt, wtd: What do I do? I'm an independent computer consultant. I offer advice on home and small business computing, and provide guidance in implementing systems in these realms. This means I do a little of everything. I am an open source software advocate, and a fan of Apple computers. you are my idol! How long have you been programming? ... you must be old well, older than the majority of us here ... cuz youre married right?[/quote] I'm 24. I've been programming for 6 years. My track is pretty much: Fortran90 (I took a course in it, but left that one) HTML, Javascript, and some really atrocious CSS Really bad Perl because a friend prodded me into learning it Python because the same friend told me it was great Really bad C and C++ because I was curious Better Javascript Ruby Better Perl Better Ruby Picked up SQL about here Looked at O'Caml and Haskell, with both blowing my mind Better C and C++, dabbling in Objective-C Better Python Picked up Java Picked up Eiffel Better Java Better Eiffel Pike (never did much, but found it interesting in a couple of ways) Picked up O'Caml, and it still blew my mind, but in a good way Came here and the rest is history D comes sometime after here (I'd looked at it earlier, but was a Mac person and D wasn't Mac friendly at the time) ----------------------------------- templest Mon Nov 08, 2004 7:53 am ----------------------------------- Do you also enjoy long walks on the beach and cuddling after sex? :P ----------------------------------- wtd Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:30 pm ----------------------------------- Yes, but I don't see how that's relevant. ----------------------------------- Andy Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:16 pm ----------------------------------- LOL... templest you are one weird kid ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:04 pm ----------------------------------- Oh, what the heck... other people might have been wondering the same. Programming languages I know, eh? Ruby Python Perl O'Caml C C++ Objective-C D Java Javascript Pascal Eiffel Pike SQL HTML/XHTMLlol.. let me try to qoute this list of programming. I cant quote big lists. Is this right?? What do I do? I'm an independent computer consultant. I offer advice on home and small business computing, and provide guidance in implementing systems in these realms. This means I do a little of everything. I am an open source software advocate, and a fan of Apple computers. "Coding"? Programmers write source code. Source code is a form of computer language that's readable by humans. It gets translated into a language the processor itself can understand, called machine language. The "code" in the above is where we get the term "coding". However, much more goes into programming than just coding. Coding is the mechanical part of the process. For projects of any size, much more time should be given to analyzing the problem and planning how you're going to solve it. Once you figure this out, writing the code is easy. Building an OS? Sorry. I don't have the skills or the desire to tackle such a problem. What do I know? I know a great deal, and more importantly, I know how to go about learning more. I know my own capabilities, and I know my own limits. I know how to break problems down to make them easier to tackle. I know how to size up someone's needs and desires regarding computing and deliver an ideal solution within a given budget. ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:06 pm ----------------------------------- I cant believe i qouted wrong again.. ----------------------------------- Mazer Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:07 pm ----------------------------------- I can't believe you didn't just edit your post. ----------------------------------- Tony Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:08 pm ----------------------------------- dsantamassino : from now on you're required to preview anything you post and think twice before hitting that submit button :? ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:09 pm ----------------------------------- I can't believe you didn't just edit your post. I know but even if i did edit i still dont know how to qoute part of a post/reply ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:10 pm ----------------------------------- dsantamassino : from now on you're required to preview anything you post and think twice before hitting that submit button :? y and do u mean?? y cant i post on this board anymore?? ----------------------------------- Martin Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:12 pm ----------------------------------- Preview just shows you how your post would look without posting it. When you feel it is okay to post, click submit instead of preview. ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:14 pm ----------------------------------- Preview just shows you how your post would look without posting it. When you feel it is okay to post, click submit instead of preview. well let me ask this. Why cant i post on this board anymore?? Am i going to get banned for no reason?? ----------------------------------- Martin Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:16 pm ----------------------------------- Nope. There is a time between posts, so that people can't spam. I think you have to wait 15 seconds between posts, or it will say that you can't make another post so soon after your first one. ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:18 pm ----------------------------------- Nope. There is a time between posts, so that people can't spam. I think you have to wait 15 seconds between posts, or it will say that you can't make another post so soon after your first one. ok i understand i guess....... EDIT: y did tony or other admins stop my bits from going up?? I really like to know what i did?? ----------------------------------- Martin Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:23 pm ----------------------------------- You don't get bits for posting in General Discussion or Spam. ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:27 pm ----------------------------------- You don't get bits for posting in General Discussion or Spam. ok thanks ----------------------------------- templest Mon Nov 08, 2004 7:16 pm ----------------------------------- Do you also enjoy long walks on the beach and cuddling after sex? :P Yes, but I don't see how that's relevant. I'm 24. I've been programming for 6 years. My track is pretty much: etc, etc... Sounds like a personal ad to me. :P ----------------------------------- wtd Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:11 pm ----------------------------------- I'm already married to a geek. ;)