----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sat Oct 30, 2004 4:07 pm does this board have md5 built in?? ----------------------------------- hello, been a long time since i visited. Mainly im asking mods and Admins for help. Does all boards have md5 hashes built in?? Is it called md5 encryption or md5 decryption?? Is it either 1 where its impossible to crack?? What are the chances of a 16 character password getting cracked on this board?? On all previous boards i have an 6 character password and i got nailed really bad. Try doing a google for my name. Its not funny. Is this true where if md5 is built in doesnt matter long or short the password is it cant get cracked?? What is the security like on this board for getting the board hacked?? Some several questions to think about. Mods or Admins please reply back ASAP. Thanks. ----------------------------------- Dan Sat Oct 30, 2004 5:27 pm ----------------------------------- Should it conser me that u are asking thess question about the encertipoin on the pass in the compsci db? lol Any how if the bord is made and set up right along with the mysql server no one should be able to see the passwords encerpited or not. phpbb uses md5 to encerpted the passwords any how but md5 is not a gr8 enceptiion and could be broken by burtforce. The length of your password is directly related to how long it whould take to berak the enception on it but as i side no one should be able to even see it in the 1st place. Also phpbb is know for it's secuity falws so it is not the saftes thing u could be puting on your site......... ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sat Oct 30, 2004 5:35 pm ----------------------------------- Should it conser me that u are asking thess question about the encertipoin on the pass in the compsci db? lol Any how if the bord is made and set up right along with the mysql server no one should be able to see the passwords encerpited or not. phpbb uses md5 to encerpted the passwords any how but md5 is not a gr8 enceptiion and could be broken by burtforce. The length of your password is directly related to how long it whould take to berak the enception on it but as i side no one should be able to even see it in the 1st place. Also phpbb is know for it's secuity falws so it is not the saftes thing u could be puting on your site......... oh ok i c.. thanx 4 the info.. I appreciated it alot. ----------------------------------- octopi Sat Oct 30, 2004 8:37 pm ----------------------------------- Phpbb uses md5 to make a 'hash' of your password. Basically a hash, is a ONE-way method of encryption. Basically the theory is, enter password, make a hash, and compare the hash to the known hash stored in the database. Most kinds of 'encryption' can be brute forced. Choosing a longer password, with mixed case, and numbers will provide some security against bruteforce. MD5 is still a pretty good method of hashing, however It is possible for multiple keys to result in the same hash, therefore people suggest using a newer algorithm, however md5 is still good enough for this type of thing. If your passwords getting taken, its probally because its shitty, or your careless with it. Don't make your password 'password', and other equally stupid ideas. ----------------------------------- Martin Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:12 pm ----------------------------------- There is nothing that can't be broken. The probability of getting it randomly is incredibly low however. ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:06 am ----------------------------------- ladies and gentlement. tell me am i right. Is it called identity theft when stealing user names on the board or what exact r the charges?? I know its a state crime. What r the charges 4 hacking/cracking?? ----------------------------------- templest Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:50 am ----------------------------------- ladies and gentlement. tell me am i right. Is it called identity theft when stealing user names on the board or what exact r the charges?? I know its a state crime. What r the charges 4 hacking/cracking?? :rofl: ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:06 am ----------------------------------- ladies and gentlement. tell me am i right. Is it called identity theft when stealing user names on the board or what exact r the charges?? I know its a state crime. What r the charges 4 hacking/cracking?? :rofl: yo whats so funny about that?? I dont find it funny.. yo is ur ass goin 2 hack me?? It was some serious questions.. ----------------------------------- rizzix Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:06 am ----------------------------------- hehe :lol:,, were u accused for murder? ah or theft. ah! or.. something really bad that there's a case against you? if not.. there is no identity theft as such just a plain internet prank. you could press charges for harrassment, if he/she (the cracker) keep one doing whtever he does. ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:08 am ----------------------------------- hehe :lol: come on guys.. Is this a safe board not too be hacked or cracked?? ----------------------------------- rizzix Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:09 am ----------------------------------- read above.. i edited my post pfft. 8) :lol: ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:12 am ----------------------------------- read above.. i edited my post pfft. 8) :lol: alright i read it.. I dont think i need anymore replies because what hacker dan said this bard is really well safe. let me make a simple request. any mod or admin can do this. I wish 2 request 4 this topic 2 get locked or removed. thanx.. ----------------------------------- Martin Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:49 am ----------------------------------- Even still, I don't recommend storing your credit card number in your signature. The internet is a safe enough place, if you are careful. And there are no set charges for hacking; it all depends on the damage done. Just like you wouldn't get in the same trouble for stealing a chocolate bar as you would for stealing a car, computer crimes have variable charges. ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:51 am ----------------------------------- Even still, I don't recommend storing your credit card number in your signature. The internet is a safe enough place, if you are careful. And there are no set charges for hacking; it all depends on the damage done. Just like you wouldn't get in the same trouble for stealing a chocolate bar as you would for stealing a car, computer crimes have variable charges. Ok i understand. Now please take care of this topic. orginal poster wants the topic moderated or locked. All questions was answered. ----------------------------------- rizzix Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:57 am ----------------------------------- sorry but topic will be kept open as board policy (we delete only when we see something offensive or completely stupid)... or if untill you get some mod really mad... until then.. the topic will fade away in time.. with the loss of interest... in anycase i have no powers here. ----------------------------------- templest Sun Oct 31, 2004 2:08 pm ----------------------------------- Don't forget that everyone that posted in this thread will get a huge bit penalty. :P ----------------------------------- Mazer Sun Oct 31, 2004 8:33 pm ----------------------------------- How could I forget that, templest? :twisted: (actually, I did forget. Way to tempt me!) ----------------------------------- Andy Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:31 pm ----------------------------------- Don't forget that everyone that posted in this thread will get a huge bit penalty. :P why? ----------------------------------- octopi Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:07 pm ----------------------------------- dsantamassino, technically I suppose it would be a crime....but....you have no right to do anything about it, the only people who would, would be the board's admin's. this boards secure, and I'm guessing the reason your account gets trashed soo much....is because....well.....your annoying. Identity theft doesn't really relate to this...its more like stealing...your identity, aka drivers license, etc.....an online version involves stealing credit cards, and basically any/all info that the credit card company knows about you....so basically the company can't do anything about it, because for all they know, those people are you. ----------------------------------- templest Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:15 pm ----------------------------------- dsantamassino, technically I suppose it would be a crime....but....you have no right to do anything about it, the only people who would, would be the board's admin's. this boards secure, and I'm guessing the reason your account gets trashed soo much....is because....well.....your annoying. Identity theft doesn't really relate to this...its more like stealing...your identity, aka drivers license, etc.....an online version involves stealing credit cards, and basically any/all info that the credit card company knows about you....so basically the company can't do anything about it, because for all they know, those people are you. Hence, why I rofl'd. Hey... Did anyone else notice that if you read dsantamassino's posts with a hick accent, it compliments what he typed perfectly? :D... ... just a thought. ----------------------------------- rizzix Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:21 pm ----------------------------------- you need to go outside more often.. templest. ----------------------------------- templest Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:13 am ----------------------------------- What the hell does my commenting on where he's from have to do with me not getting out? :? ----------------------------------- rizzix Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:31 pm ----------------------------------- hmm wht the hell does my random comments have to do with your random comments? :lol: ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:08 pm ----------------------------------- well assholes i dont give a fuck what u think of how i write and i dont give a **** if im annoying which im not. ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:28 pm ----------------------------------- wtf?? where the hell are u coming at/from?? and dan why is fuck not censored? ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:36 pm ----------------------------------- unknow.......it should be now tho, but i thougth it allways was..... ----------------------------------- templest Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:12 pm ----------------------------------- well *******s i dont give a **** what u think of how i write and i dont give a **** if im annoying which im not. What the fuck!? You fucking fuck fuck ass fucking fuck cock fucker! :P ----------------------------------- Paul Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:37 pm ----------------------------------- fuck so I see... ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:01 pm ----------------------------------- let me ask u guys/girls a question that was part of the problem with me being hacked. In the USA, Is stalking online a State crime or a Federal Offense?? ----------------------------------- Mazer Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:35 pm ----------------------------------- You might do better by asking that question at a website without the ".ca" suffix. Sorry, but even if people here can answer that question, it'd make more sense to ask that somewhere else. Like an online community that's focussed on US laws. This site is (usually) about computer science. ----------------------------------- Dan Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:41 pm ----------------------------------- There only crimes is u get caught :wink: ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:54 pm ----------------------------------- There only crimes is u get caught :wink: iight so far no caught but have been threatened. This forum has been pretty safe so far. No one is posting under my name.. ----------------------------------- Dan Fri Nov 05, 2004 4:15 pm ----------------------------------- This forum has been pretty safe so far. No one is posting under my name.. I whould hope not, lol. And if they where that whould mean they messed with the site and if poleop mess with this site all there online acounts uhsely come to a bad end..... ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Fri Nov 05, 2004 4:22 pm ----------------------------------- This forum has been pretty safe so far. No one is posting under my name.. I whould hope not, lol. And if they where that whould mean they messed with the site and if poleop mess with this site all there online acounts uhsely come to a bad end..... Dan, r u and others on this board r **** and ****?? I want my account dsantamassino without anything happeneing to the account so i had to edit.. It will atract them.. lol ----------------------------------- Dan Fri Nov 05, 2004 4:43 pm ----------------------------------- Dan, r u and others on this board r hackers and crackers?? I can not speak for any one eltes on this site and there are many meanings for the word hacker :roll: ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Fri Nov 05, 2004 4:45 pm ----------------------------------- oh ok. I didnt think there was "more" then 1 meaning. I thought hacker was the word i was talking about.. ----------------------------------- templest Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:40 pm ----------------------------------- ... there are many meanings for the word hacker :roll: :lol: ----------------------------------- Dan Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:45 pm ----------------------------------- oh ok. I didnt think there was "more" then 1 meaning. I thought hacker was the word i was talking about.. No......cracker != hacker. Tho with the medias new deftions hacking or hacker can mean anything realting to computers that is not complely legeal. ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:54 pm ----------------------------------- oh ok. I didnt think there was "more" then 1 meaning. I thought hacker was the word i was talking about.. No......cracker != hacker. Tho with the medias new deftions hacking or hacker can mean anything realting to computers that is not complely legeal. ok i understand. So my terms and ur terms r wrong. my terms r illegal and ur terms r legal. OK i shut up. cracker=cracking passwords. hacking=dialing into the system. Do u hack government computers?? lol. Dan i think u better lock this topic. It might get out of hand. ----------------------------------- Dan Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:49 pm ----------------------------------- ok i understand. So my terms and ur terms r wrong. my terms r illegal and ur terms r legal. OK i shut up. cracker=cracking passwords. hacking=dialing into the system. Do u hack government computers?? lol. Dan i think u better lock this topic. It might get out of hand. my terms are just theat hacking dose not have to be illegal but it can be. Cracking can also mean a few difrent things ranging from brut force to exit the hex of apps to bypass things. Hacking used to just mean making progames for fun but now means more of testing the limits of a computer system. Tho most poleop consider hacking to cover almost anything from scripted kiddys to cracking to making progames for fun to geting in to netwroks and websites and messing with them. And on a totaly unrealted note, goverment canada has nothing worth looking at.... ----------------------------------- templest Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:05 am ----------------------------------- And on a totaly unrealted note, goverment canada has nothing worth looking at.... Believe us, we've looked. :lol: ----------------------------------- Paul Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:21 pm ----------------------------------- I'm a five star general of the hidden eskimo army of the north. ----------------------------------- Martin Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:24 pm ----------------------------------- Let's call Dan a self interested vigilante. ----------------------------------- Dan Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:26 pm ----------------------------------- Let's call Dan a self interested vigilante. Could have not side it better my self....... ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:32 pm ----------------------------------- well gang. I dont know 4 sure but i bet that the hacker is reading these replies and either cant crack the password or is tring 2. ----------------------------------- Paul Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:28 pm ----------------------------------- are you crazy!?!?! There are no hackers trying to hack this forum! :shock: "they", if they exist, would have better things to do, they don't sit infront of the computer all day and try to hack YOU! :? And please don't come up with a stupid paranoid reply to this. ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:31 pm ----------------------------------- are you crazy!?!?! There are no hackers trying to hack this forum! :shock: "they", if they exist, would have better things to do, they don't sit infront of the computer all day and try to hack YOU! :? And please don't come up with a stupid paranoid reply to this. y dont ur ass sit down in front of ur computer using any search engine and search for either dsantamassino or derek santamassino and then read off the dates and while ur at it read what damage they did then come back here?? I suggest u read first before u come back. ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:34 pm ----------------------------------- here Paul i give u a hand. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dsantamassino&btnG=Google+Search ----------------------------------- Mazer Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:04 pm ----------------------------------- Have you been contacted by police or lawyers or anything warning or arresting you about this? The way I see it, if you've posted on a message board and somebody has hacked your account and made posts, then it will be with a different IP from yours and you shouldn't have to worry about that. And again, the only time there has been malevolent hacking here was when script kiddies took advantage of security problem with the server this message board is posted on. You don't have to worry about that. ----------------------------------- templest Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:24 pm ----------------------------------- Ew! Amailer! It was you! You brought this fruitcake into this site! You just weant down -30 notches in my book. http://www.programmingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=10399 If you click the first link in that google results page from the "FreeAdvice Forums", you'll realize why I've grown to un-love this dearing fellow. ----------------------------------- Amailer Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:24 pm ----------------------------------- Guys you should take a look at that google link, you might or might not be suprised. btw how was it me? lol HOLY CRAP OMG IT WAS ME NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i never knew him EDIT: Omg his the guy who said he couldn't buy books to learn a programming lanuage... intresting ----------------------------------- templest Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:29 pm ----------------------------------- Don't show your face in here, you ! :x ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:30 pm ----------------------------------- Guys you should take a look at that google link, you might or might not be suprised. btw how was it me? lol HOLY CRAP OMG IT WAS ME NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i never knew him EDIT: Omg his the guy who said he couldn't buy books to learn a programming lanuage... intresting well then who is hacking me?? Or we can leave it at this and forget about the google links?? my god think hacking people is funny which its not. ----------------------------------- Amailer Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:31 pm ----------------------------------- he was here before you know, just that now he started to post alot more. and dsantamassino, no one is hacking you. Maybe people from the sites that you have been banned from are, and it looks like you have been banned from alot of sites. ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:33 pm ----------------------------------- he was here before you know, just that now he started to post alot more. and dsantamassino, no one is hacking you. Maybe people from the sites that you have been banned from are, and it looks like you have been banned from alot of sites. people were cracking my passwords and making negaitive replies. ----------------------------------- templest Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:39 pm ----------------------------------- Are you sure it wasn't just the moderators editing your posts to make you look like a retard? (Not that you need any help with that). And look, you're the one that brought up the google links, so don't take them back now. ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:43 pm ----------------------------------- Are you sure it wasn't just the moderators editing your posts to make you look like a retard? (Not that you need any help with that). And look, you're the one that brought up the google links, so don't take them back now. well first who said i was a retart i should the hell didnt?? second, y the hell r u people continue 2 start about hacking my accounts?? third. r u saying the moderators actually logged into every account of mine on almost every forum?? fourth end it NOW plz. fifth i said sorry in my other thread. P.S. how cares if i continue to post more here. who care if i get over a 1,000 posts or over 6,000 bits ----------------------------------- templest Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:49 pm ----------------------------------- I do, because it would be over 1,000 useless posts. Over-flowing the forums, and wasting precious bandwidth for the servers. And yes, I am implying that the moderators edited your posts in all those forums because they wanted to remove all your useless posts that were mainly directed at you calling them "ass-hats". What the hell is that, anyways? Does that mean they have an ass for a hat? :? ----------------------------------- dsantamassino Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:53 pm ----------------------------------- does that mean u can fuck off now and stop replying to my topics?? and no it wasnt me called them ass-hats. Now the next person replies to any of my topics and i dont like the person. Its simple i will not answer the reply that was given. I just ask someone else to post. watch and see. ur not wasting my time ur wasting ur time for writing up replies. ----------------------------------- templest Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:59 pm ----------------------------------- Replying to you in public is fun, because I can make you look like an idiot in-front of everyone else on this board. I'm not wasting my time, but I am wasting your time. That last reply you made is ten seconds of your life you wasted being angry at me that you'll never get back! I own those ten seconds of your life! Bwahahahahah! And you'll NEVER GET THEM BACK!!!one!!1 ----------------------------------- Dan Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:36 am ----------------------------------- And again, the only time there has been malevolent hacking here was when script kiddies took advantage of security problem with the server this message board is posted on. You don't have to worry about that. That was not done on this site, it was done on our host so it effected all sites hosted by them and they did not have acces to our db any how during that but just the index pages.... And noramly i whould stop this kind of flaming but it is just to dam funny :twisted: dsantamassino, the world is not out to get you and no one is trying to hack your acount on compsci.ca. If u whent on like this on other sites, i realy whould think the mods whould edit your posts just to mess with you..... and amailer is not hacking or reading your msn convos........ Edit: tho you never know, my acount could have been hacked and i could just be ploting to get you and that is why i am not stoping the flmaming. HA HA HA HA HA, 1st compsci.ca then we will take over the rest of your life HA HA HA......... run while you can!!!!! or somitng like that :roll: ----------------------------------- Tony Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:19 am ----------------------------------- dsantamassino : I'm out to get you. I wrote a specialized md5 cracker app against your account. It's kind of slow... roughly 25% completion.. So I should have your password in about 3 more days :twisted: time is ticking :wink: ----------------------------------- Paul Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:16 pm ----------------------------------- rofl, methinks he has MPD. ----------------------------------- Martin Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:45 pm ----------------------------------- Main Processor Redundancy ;) ----------------------------------- Mazer Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:21 pm ----------------------------------- Miles Per Digit was my guess... ----------------------------------- rizzix Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:23 pm ----------------------------------- don't be foolish guys.. if he can't stop posting.. meh give him the most disrespectful title in whole compsci... "LAMER of LAMERs"... and dont add fuel to the fire... this is just foolsih :? ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:47 pm ----------------------------------- to get back on topic http://www.md5crk.com/?sec=whatismd5crk