----------------------------------- nate Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:29 pm Working Out ----------------------------------- I hope this poll shows thats us compsci users are not actually just computer geeks. I HOPE. Well, i'm workin out round 6-7 times a week now. How about you guys? ----------------------------------- Tony Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:39 pm ----------------------------------- Well I'm practicing [url=http://www.kendoclub.uwaterloo.ca/]kendo 3 times a week. It's more of a workout than you might think. In January I'm moving back to Toronto where my gym membership resumes, though I hope I can find some open space to run around with a sword as well :wink: ----------------------------------- Genesis Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:44 pm ----------------------------------- Well I'm practicing kendo 3 times a week. It's more of a workout than you might think. That's awesome. I'd imagine kendo would be quite a workout. I run 4 miles every morning. 7 minutes a mile. :D ----------------------------------- Dan Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:59 pm Re: Working Out ----------------------------------- I hope this poll shows thats us compsci users are not actually just computer geeks. I HOPE. Well, i'm workin out round 6-7 times a week now. How about you guys? How dose geeks = not working out? Any how there is a difrencer between excies and working out. I see no point in working out (i am not as vain as most of scoity) but exceies to stay healthy is good. ----------------------------------- Martin Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:25 pm ----------------------------------- I used to swim competitively, but now I just go every so often for the recreational aspect. Vanity is good, I want a six-pack again! ----------------------------------- Paul Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:38 pm ----------------------------------- Weights, 2-3 times a week (if I did any more than that, i'd be in constant pain), all the other days, basketball for 1-1.5 hrs. and if I was smart, I'd do what other ppl prolly do, separate workouts for different parts of the body in different days, but I just do it all once I'm in the basement, and that results in pain. I remeber coming back from a long trip of not working out, and then I come back and did my normal thing... ouch, the next day I sneezed and I was on the ground for like 2 minutes. ----------------------------------- Martin Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:32 pm ----------------------------------- Working out is goaled towards physical perfection, not vanity for the most part, just like studying is geared towards furthering ones knowledge. ----------------------------------- Maverick Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:06 pm ----------------------------------- just like studying is geared towards furthering ones knowledge. Umm I thought it was geared towards passing tests. Or maybe thats just me ----------------------------------- Mazer Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:18 pm ----------------------------------- I used to work out daily with the football coach and some of team back in highschool. I'm looking for a martial art to try... ----------------------------------- Cervantes Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:35 pm ----------------------------------- how about aikedo? my brother did that for a number of years, kinda stopped once he hit uni, but he said it was fun. I don't think its all that good of a work out, however (compared to some other matial arts) 7 minutes a mile genesis? pretty good :D I think I do around that, but don't really know since I tend to just run for as long as I have time for. :wink: ----------------------------------- Dan Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:39 pm ----------------------------------- Working out is goaled towards physical perfection, not vanity for the most part, just like studying is geared towards furthering ones knowledge. I think whonting physical perfection pritey much is what vanity is, lol ----------------------------------- Martin Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:28 am ----------------------------------- But then can't the same be said about wanting to be the best at anything? Everyone aims for the top, even if they know that realistically they can't get there. ----------------------------------- Mazer Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:44 am ----------------------------------- how about aikedo? Funny you should mention that. Aikido is actually the reason why I'm now looking for something. I went to one class, and it didn't really think it was for me. Nothing against Aikido, it's a great concept but I'd like something that will be a really good way to build up my strength. From what I can see, Aikido is more of a 'use their own strength against them' kind of thing. Besides, Aikido is supposed to be peaceful. If somebody attacks me and I manage to knock them down, I'd like to beat the crap out of them. As opposed to stepping on them so they can't move. ----------------------------------- Martin Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:51 am ----------------------------------- Aikido - The art of becoming one with the mat. Aikido is very fun, and the man who created it (not so long ago, it's only about 100 years old) is regarded as one of the best martial artists ever to have lived. http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/users/paloma/Aikido/morihei.html ----------------------------------- Mazer Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:17 pm ----------------------------------- I know about that, that's why I said I didn't think it was for "me". :wink: ----------------------------------- Paul Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:11 pm ----------------------------------- Judo hurts, not from my experience. ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:21 pm ----------------------------------- But then can't the same be said about wanting to be the best at anything? Everyone aims for the top, even if they know that realistically they can't get there. Nope, it is difrent when it comes to physical things like wate lifting. For example if you tryed to be the beast in compsci, then there whould be a futter in that and you whould be doing it for your self but if u lifted wates every day to try the lifts as much as u can you are doing it more for socity and whonting poleop to think you look good, also the only futtuer in that whould be working for a moving comaply or somting that invales lifting havey objcts. ----------------------------------- Martin Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:35 pm ----------------------------------- Professional athletes make quite a bit of money Dan, and they do provide a service: entertainment. People have their own desires when they work out. Wanting to be the best programmer is just as vain as wanting to be in excellent shape, and I see no problem with wanting either. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:44 pm ----------------------------------- I'd like to beat the crap out of them. As opposed to stepping on them so they can't move. Are you kidding? I'd much raither have them at my whim, where if I move my arm just a hint their pain increases tenfold. Less rage, more controlled. ----------------------------------- Paul Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:47 pm ----------------------------------- lol, I've had judo moves practiced on me cause I didn't think my girlfriend could beat me up (maybe due to the fact I'm like 1.5 her size), but ouch, its not pleasant, and thats before experiencing the throws. Thogh its not like what u do cervantes, more choking, holds etc, plus frantically trying to wake up the guy you knocked out before ur teacher gets across the room. ----------------------------------- Martin Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:52 pm ----------------------------------- Yeah. Goju ryu sparring. I was a white belt, the guy I was fighting was a blackbelt. Now, this place wasn't some McDojo, getting a blackbelt took something around 7 - 10 years. Anyway, we started fighting (I already had a blue belt in kenpo), I got a few hits in and I thought, okay, I can do this. Then, bam...knocked down, bloody nose. I honestly didn't see it coming at all...wow. ----------------------------------- Mazer Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:18 pm ----------------------------------- Ah, I remember Goju ryu. Well, not really. But I did take it for a while. And by that I mean, it was something to do at the YMCA while waiting for my dad to pick me up. ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:23 pm ----------------------------------- Professional athletes make quite a bit of money Dan, and they do provide a service: entertainment. People have their own desires when they work out. Wanting to be the best programmer is just as vain as wanting to be in excellent shape, and I see no problem with wanting either. Well if u whont to be the best progamer then i whould say to are vain as well.... Also the point is you are not trying to be an athlete but just conform to socitys wills.... ----------------------------------- Tony Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:35 pm ----------------------------------- Also the point is you are not trying to be an athlete but just conform to socitys wills.... Dan... no one works out to look and feel good. And that is hardly society's norm, since an average american is an ignorant overweight who's idea of a healthy meal is balancing out supersized mcdounald's dinner with a diet coke :? I work out for myself. I attend university for myself. Society scares me ----------------------------------- Paul Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:46 pm ----------------------------------- Thats true, I don't want to be my uncle who feels discomfort at putting on socks. ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:22 pm ----------------------------------- Also the point is you are not trying to be an athlete but just conform to socitys wills.... Dan... no one works out to look and feel good. And that is hardly society's norm, since an average american is an ignorant overweight who's idea of a healthy meal is balancing out supersized mcdounald's dinner with a diet coke :? I work out for myself. I attend university for myself. Society scares me Socitys wills are hardly equaly to the avg person in the socity. Socity will whould be haveing poleop whont to look like the modals on t.v. but have the avg person be overweigth. It is about the whont not acuatly being, if poleop could become like that so easy then it whould totaly mess over socity and there whould be some other insane way of diving up the poleopulation from the avg magoitry and the selcet few that whould have money, power and popuality. If it is true that you work out for your self then that is not vain, but i was refure to more of thos who work out by doing things like lifitng wates till the point it hurts in an effort not to stay in shape or feal good but to chage there psyical apperece that of what scoity says is the best. Also if having a good looking body is what makes you feal good i pitty you b/c there is no escaping time and looks do not last for ever.... P.S. it is also about desiser, desier is a bad thing (just ask buddha). Working out is ushely linked the desier to chage your phsical appernce and commpley to what socity says poleop should look like (tho in realty do not). ----------------------------------- Martin Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:50 pm ----------------------------------- I can't partake in this discussion anymore. ----------------------------------- Mazer Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:05 am ----------------------------------- Also if having a good looking body is what makes you feal good i pitty you b/c there is no escaping time Jackie Chan is over 50 years old. Not to say he's good looking, but damn, he sure as hell doesn't look 50+. Because he stays healthy. ----------------------------------- Martin Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:14 am ----------------------------------- Everything that people do is about desire. Humans have endless wants. Do you think that one day you will wake up and say "I am happy with my music collection, and I will never listen to a different song." Of course not (well, you might say it, but it won't be true). Jealousy is not a good thing usually, but without desire; the desire to learn, to optimize, to be the best, then there would be no human achievement. ----------------------------------- Dan Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:13 pm ----------------------------------- Everything that people do is about desire. Humans have endless wants. Do you think that one day you will wake up and say "I am happy with my music collection, and I will never listen to a different song." Of course not (well, you might say it, but it won't be true). Jealousy is not a good thing usually, but without desire; the desire to learn, to optimize, to be the best, then there would be no human achievement. That is why life is sufring, since desire is sufering and to desire is human. But that dose not mean that you have to add more desire and sufring to your life.... ----------------------------------- Martin Fri Oct 15, 2004 5:40 pm ----------------------------------- Desire isn't necissarily a bad thing. Desire can be interpreted as the desire for a new, ozone depleting SUV, or desire can be to feed starving people across the sea. It's when it's left unchecked that it leads to problems. Working out is simply a way people reward themselves, to make themselves happier. That is, after all, the only thing that anyone really wants: happiness for themselves and for others. Some people get it through video games, others through killing themselves at the gym. To quote Fight Club: "Self improvement is masturbation, self destruction is the answer." Think about it for a minute. ----------------------------------- MyPistolsIn3D Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:15 pm ----------------------------------- I do weightlifting about 3 times a week. Dont have time for running though ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:10 pm ----------------------------------- so do suicides :D windsprints. the mile. running doesn't have to take long. ----------------------------------- nate Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:34 pm ----------------------------------- so do suicides Very Happy windsprints. the mile. running doesn't have to take long Exactly, if you have enough time 2 post here and look at these posts then you shouldn't make an excuse that you don't have 7-8 minutes to run a mile, or do windsprints. ----------------------------------- Martin Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:27 am ----------------------------------- Or as my old sensei would say Everyone, take off your glasses. Clapping behind the back pushups ----------------------------------- MyPistolsIn3D Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:25 pm ----------------------------------- I think ima start running with my freind this winter, or just get a treadmill so i dont hafta run in the cold. ----------------------------------- Genesis Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:59 pm ----------------------------------- I think ima start running with my freind this winter, or just get a treadmill so i dont hafta run in the cold. Treadmills suck. So do tracks. I can't stand just seeing the same thing over and over again when I run. (A track is better than a treadmill though, at least you're outside.) Besides, running in the winter is fun. (As long as it's not like blizzard weather, and the roads are plowed.) If you really wanna get in shape, join rowing! :D ----------------------------------- Andy Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:11 pm ----------------------------------- wow mazer.. i never knew.. this guy from my church teaches Aikido.. hes supposed to be ranked top 5 in north america.. he recently purchased a dojo and its supposedly really nice... time to party it up ----------------------------------- Martin Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:38 pm ----------------------------------- People in Windsor: check out Copeland's School of Martial Arts. Amazing place. ----------------------------------- Flea Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:42 pm ----------------------------------- i am a competitive swimmer, i train seven times per week (2-3hr practise), play water polo once, lift weights once. plus swim meets wheni race (every couple weeks), which can be brutal. the rest of the time ReLaxX0r & wc3 in the summer i run as well, but swim less. and i play in a waterpolo league in the summer. waterpolo is nuts. i know martin probably knows a bit about what swimmings all about... its about pain ----------------------------------- Mazer Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:42 am ----------------------------------- wow mazer.. i never knew.. this guy from my church teaches Aikido.. hes supposed to be ranked top 5 in north Yes, I'm pretty sure that's the guy. People in Windsor: check out Copeland's School of Martial Arts. Amazing place. Hmm... where's that at? Could you give some more details? ----------------------------------- Cervantes Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:20 am ----------------------------------- Or as my old sensei would say Everyone, take off your glasses. Clapping behind the back pushups *Cervantes studies the quote for a half moment, then keels over and dies* ----------------------------------- Paul Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:48 pm ----------------------------------- ugh... getting colder now, even if I had the slightest interest in running now, it is gone. I'd rather stay inside and do the weights. But noooooo....! no more basketball! ----------------------------------- Cervantes Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:19 pm ----------------------------------- bah, it's not that cold.. All you have to do is wear 2-3 T-shirts, and a sweatshirt / track top over that, and shorts. It's not as though your legs are going to get cold. you shouldn't make an excuse that you don't have 7-8 minutes to run a mile :shock: That's an awfully long mile, given that it's just one mile :P ----------------------------------- Genesis Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:46 pm ----------------------------------- bah, it's not that cold.. All you have to do is wear 2-3 T-shirts, and a sweatshirt / track top over that, and shorts. It's not as though your legs are going to get cold. Wear Under Armour. Expensive, but worth it. Light, and unbelievably warm. Good for skiing too. ----------------------------------- Martin Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:12 pm ----------------------------------- Yeah, I was swimming 24 hours a week once. (that's 4 hours a day, 6 days a week for you non-mathies) ----------------------------------- nate Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:08 pm ----------------------------------- bah, it's not that cold.. All you have to do is wear 2-3 T-shirts, and a sweatshirt / track top over that, and shorts. It's not as though your legs are going to get cold. you shouldn't make an excuse that you don't have 7-8 minutes to run a mile :shock: That's an awfully long mile, given that it's just one mile :P 7-8 minutes, isn't very fast but its the average time for most people I would persume. The thing is yes, people can get much faster but when your working out, especially for cardio your not running at racing speed. btw what is your mile time? ----------------------------------- Martin Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:58 pm ----------------------------------- Six months ago I could run under a 6 minute mile, and hold it up for about 15-20 minutes. Now...I'm not so sure. ----------------------------------- Paul Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:27 pm ----------------------------------- Friend goes in UofW ... loses like 20 pounds... looks like skins and bones now... 0o