----------------------------------- Martin Sun Sep 26, 2004 1:40 am Vincent Massey ----------------------------------- I've been out of the loop for a while, and my spies are very unreliable. So what's happening with Massey this year? I heard about [url=http://www.canada.com/windsor/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=d9d86e40-a331-4796-b147-4b6d38827c02] this I've also heard rumours that the new principal is a 'nazi' and that you now have to have hall passes. And some other stuff... Anyone want to get me up to speed? ----------------------------------- Amailer Sun Sep 26, 2004 7:32 am ----------------------------------- wow, you got a messed up school. Atleast its on some new :P *or you had a messed up school* ----------------------------------- Mazer Sun Sep 26, 2004 7:35 am ----------------------------------- Yeah, I think everybody knows about that since yesterday. As the MSN name suggests, I am SO glad I didn't take art after grade 9. Heard about the hall passes too. Pretty lame... And something about a morning prayer, until it was stopped. ----------------------------------- bugzpodder Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:01 am ----------------------------------- :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: looking thru binoculars in a park? whats he trying to do? abduction? ----------------------------------- Paul Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:29 am ----------------------------------- lol... wtf? prayers, massey isn't a catholic school is it? ... if not... thats just WRONG! and you'd think he'd ask for the students advice in how to go to websites without being caught. It IS massey after all. ----------------------------------- Andy Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:21 pm ----------------------------------- they were so impersonal tho... but its still kinda gay... i dun wana pray to a God thats not mine ----------------------------------- SuperGenius Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:29 pm ----------------------------------- I always thought that art teachers on the whole were a little bit off. ----------------------------------- Andy Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:33 pm ----------------------------------- apparently not... not at all ----------------------------------- templest Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:39 pm ----------------------------------- they were so impersonal tho... but its still kinda ***... i dun wana pray to a God thats not mine So... who is your god? :think: EDIT: Hail Satan! :scrambles: ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:50 pm ----------------------------------- yeah I think our student body just don't like the principal. That's why they complain so much. Because the principal and the VP constantly hounds the students about the dress code, Our new principal came from a military school, i think that's why. There is also that morning prayer thing, now changed to the quote of the day. There is that hall pass thing, people are starting to lose them on purpose now. And then there is the you must sit with your class in assemblies. I don't think anyone has broken that one without being punished. Add all that to the fact that we now have a messed up art teacher, I think our school is slipping downhill, but that's just my opinion. ----------------------------------- Mazer Mon Sep 27, 2004 7:50 am ----------------------------------- I think our school is slipping downhill, but that's just my opinion. I have but one response to this. *clears throat* http://tinypic.com/aa4pj ----------------------------------- bugzpodder Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:15 am ----------------------------------- hmm... now i am afraid to come back to visit... who knows what they'll do to me? call the police cuz i am trespassing on property? ----------------------------------- G.I._Jane Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:16 pm ----------------------------------- i hate massey so much i also dont like the principle hes werid but he is'nt nazi he used to worck in a millitary camp somewhere and i dontlike the fact that were the only secondary school with a bunch of grade 7,and8 and im really getting mad about haveing the high scool student in the portables :evil2: it just makes me so mad :cussing: ----------------------------------- Martin Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:03 pm ----------------------------------- On my behalf, someone please claim that the quote of the day is an obvious attempt to subvertly use religious quotes in a public school. ----------------------------------- Paul Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:47 pm ----------------------------------- WTF!?!?! THEY CAN'T have a daily prayer in a non-religious school!!! ----------------------------------- Martin Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:02 pm ----------------------------------- My grade school did (Central Public School). I got suspended for three days for telling my principle that my love of Satan was what inspired me to play Dungeons & Dragons. ----------------------------------- Paul Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:18 pm ----------------------------------- OMFG! Don't make me angry, they cannot suspend u for doing that if its not a religious school! its like suspending me cause I'm not religious! ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Mon Sep 27, 2004 7:16 pm ----------------------------------- My grade school did (Central Public School). I got suspended for three days for telling my principle that my love of Satan was what inspired me to play Dungeons & Dragons. lmao. Because I just read an article recently about how Dungeons and Dragons is directly linked to Satanism and Pagan Witchcraft. It was on a Christian website. ----------------------------------- templest Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:13 pm ----------------------------------- Believe me or not, I concider Satanism to have a better set of morals to live by than christianity. It doesn't set you out to persue rediculous goals in life (like total celebacy), but it does teach you self control, appreciation of acceptable indulgences, and actual dicipline. Satanists are some of the smartest people I know. Here's a good site that you should go to in order to remove yourself from the T.V. bias that Satan wants to eat your soul: http://www.satanism101.com/essentials.html Satan is an ideal, not a person. Just in case you think I worship some red cross-bull dude. EDIT: We also dissaprove of state-of-mind altering drugs, animal(including human) sacrifices, and molesting children. Crazy, eh? the Church of Satan doesn't accept memebers under 18, yet in the catholic church you have horny old men getting little boys to suck their cocks. Interesting. ----------------------------------- Andy Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:35 pm ----------------------------------- but bugz, u have to comeback... we need u and john for that math contest! ----------------------------------- templest Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:54 am ----------------------------------- but bugz, u have to comeback... we need u and john for that math contest! You never answered my question; who is your "god"? :shock: ----------------------------------- bugzpodder Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:47 am ----------------------------------- but bugz, u have to comeback... we need u and john for that math contest! wtf all you only need is john... i have no interest of coming to a place where u need hall passes ----------------------------------- Mazer Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:25 pm ----------------------------------- Don't worry dodge, bugz, I'll do it. Remember, I came in 20th in Massey for the (insert the name of that grade11 contest here). Do you have any idea how many people (who like math) I beat?! At least four! :P ----------------------------------- Genesis Tue Sep 28, 2004 2:23 pm ----------------------------------- Templest! Thanks for your post on Satanism! I've spent like 2 days trying to come up with a topic for a persuasive essay, and your post was the perect topic. So I wrote about how it's beleifs/ideals make more sense than Christianity's. Luckily I have a cool english teacher or that would've probably gotten me suspended. But he loved it. ----------------------------------- Maverick Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:28 pm ----------------------------------- Fuck satanism, Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek! Thats a real good way to live :evil: ----------------------------------- Genesis Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:31 pm ----------------------------------- I never said it was a good way to live, or that I supported it. (Which I don't). It just happened to make a good essay topic. ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:43 pm ----------------------------------- but bugz, u have to comeback... we need u and john for that math contest! wtf all you only need is john... i have no interest of coming to a place where u need hall passes its a team contest thats y we need u here ----------------------------------- templest Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:40 pm ----------------------------------- Fuck satanism, Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek! Thats a real good way to live :evil: So if I were to unload a two barrel shotgun on your crotch, you'd say: "Good, let me turn the other way around and you can pummel my aşş now"? :think: If you ever sue anyone for anything wrong they've done to you; then you're accepting, or at least living by, this rule whether you'd like to accept it or not. The legal system works this way already; I rape your wife, I get ten years in prison to pay for what I have done. It sounds like vengeance to me. You don't approve of people paying for their crimes? :? ----------------------------------- Dan Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:36 pm ----------------------------------- And dos'nt cirstanity say somthing about poleop being bured in fires for enterity if they do somting worng??? I think that whould be worse then being sued or somting..... ----------------------------------- templest Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:48 pm ----------------------------------- And dos'nt cirstanity say somthing about poleop being bured in fires for enterity if they do somting worng??? I think that whould be worse then being sued or somting..... You'd have to read "The Satanic Verses" in order to fully understand this. In a nutshell: If I willingly devote myself to Satan 100%, I won't suffer like everyone else. If I follow the Satanic beliefs perfectly, and don't do anything that Satanism conciders a sin, I don't have to worry about suffering, because I didn't commit any sins.; I am devout to Satanism. If I'm a christian and I so much as _think_ of having sex with _anyone_ before I'm married, I'll burn in hell for the rest of eternity because I failed to uphold the rules of my religion: Christianity, thus you pay the consequences that are administered by your religion for breaking their rules. Catching on yet? :? What's a sin to a chirstian, might not be a sin to Satanists; so if I have sex before marriage and am a Satanist, I'm cool; whereas, if I was christian and did that, I'd be fùcked. ----------------------------------- Dan Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:53 pm ----------------------------------- Persoanly i dislike orgainsed relgione as a hole and the idea that you have to do x to get y in the after life. I belive what is import is staying ture to what you blive in and not what some one has layed down for you to blive in. ----------------------------------- templest Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:58 pm ----------------------------------- Persoanly i dislike orgainsed relgione as a hole and the idea that you have to do x to get y in the after life. I belive what is import is staying ture to what you blive in and not what some one has layed down for you to blive in. That's the beauty about satanism. The rules are pretty much things that _anyone_ would want to do anyways. The only real sins of Satanism are as follows: For years, people have asked Church of Satan representatives, "Well, okay - your philosophy is based on indulgence of human instincts but do you have sins like any other religion?" Our answer has always been "No". But the time has come to amend that response. We have grown steadily over the past 21 years and find that it is appropriate to have some clear guidelines on, not only what we strive for,but also what we work to avoid - what we disapprove of. The difference is where other religions develop sins that people can't avoid, we consider a number of things "sinful" that people could avoid if they worked a little. Stupidity -- The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid. Pretentiousness -- Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn't applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone's made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not. Solipsism -- Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won't. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of "Do unto others as they do unto you." It's work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point. Self-deceit -- It's in the Nine Satanic Statements but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it's fun, and with awareness. But then, it's not self-deceit! Herd Conformity -- That's obvious from a Satanic stance. It's all right to conform toa person's wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many. Lack of Perspective -- Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints -- know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world. Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies -- Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something "new" and "different," when in reality it's something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the "creator" and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society. Counterproductive Pride -- That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you've painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, "I'm sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow," then do it. Lack of Aesthetics -- This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but "an eye" for for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It's not what's supposed to be pleasing -- it's what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one's own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied. Anton Szandor LaVey, 1987 c.e. ----------------------------------- templest Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:03 pm ----------------------------------- There's also guidlines as to what you can and cannot do. The " Eleven Rules of the World", which are: Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure that they want to hear them. When in another's lair, show him respect or else do not go there. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the person and he cries out to be relieved. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have used it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself. Do not harm little children. Do not kill non-human animals unless attacked or for your food. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him. Anton Szandor LaVey, 1967 c.e. I don't mind following those at all. ----------------------------------- Mazer Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:12 pm ----------------------------------- I could agree with some (not all) of that. And they could have picked a better name, I think. Also, when did we stop talking about Massey? ----------------------------------- templest Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:47 pm ----------------------------------- dodge, you never did answer my question. :? ----------------------------------- Dan Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:11 pm ----------------------------------- templest, the very fact that there are guild lines that speficlky say do not do X or do Y is what i dislike.... ----------------------------------- templest Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:49 pm ----------------------------------- templest, the very fact that there are guild lines that speficlky say do not do X or do Y is what i dislike.... So you dislike our legal system? Anarchist, are we? ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:08 pm ----------------------------------- what question? ----------------------------------- McKenzie Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:49 pm ----------------------------------- The subject is Vincent Massey. As such we would to expect to see such comments like: "Wow, I love early release days I can pown you at CS so much earlier in the day" "I want to wear my hat ic class. why can't I wear my hat in class. This school is sooo mean :( " Instead templest want to use it as an opportunity to misguide readers and distort the truth. Oh, Dodge the question templest speaks of is just an opportunity for him to spew his beliefs, don't take the bait. So back about Vincent Massey. Is Mr. White different now that he only teaches the ultra-enriched classes? ----------------------------------- Martin Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:57 pm ----------------------------------- Ultra-enriched? I heard that he was TAing...but...? ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:07 pm ----------------------------------- yea he pops in my calc class every now and then and make the rest of us look like idiots by doing 2 page questiosn in 3 lines ----------------------------------- templest Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:37 pm ----------------------------------- The subject is Vincent Massey. As such we would to expect to see such comments like: "Wow, I love early release days I can pown you at CS so much earlier in the day" "I want to wear my hat ic class. why can't I wear my hat in class. This school is sooo mean :( " Instead templest want to use it as an opportunity to misguide readers and distort the truth. Oh, Dodge the question templest speaks of is just an opportunity for him to spew his beliefs, don't take the bait. So back about Vincent Massey. Is Mr. White different now that he only teaches the ultra-enriched classes? What lies? Who am I misguiding? What truth am I distorting? The answer to these questions and more on the next episode of: "Post By McKenzie!". dodge, the question was "Who is your god?"; out of curiousity, because you said: "to a god that's not mine", therefor, you must have another god. It seems to me the McKenzie is a christian fanatic that's so narrow minded that he can't bare the fact that someone else might be right for a change besides "Jesus". ----------------------------------- rizzix Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:41 pm ----------------------------------- only a fool would say that... i dont see him close minded at all.. his point was quite clear.. "stay on topic" as far as.. Instead templest want to use it as an opportunity to misguide readers and distort the truth. goes.. that's a sly comment.. nothing offensive.. nothing fanatic... rather funny actually :P ----------------------------------- Mazer Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:48 pm ----------------------------------- Oh sure, give him credit for saying it after I said it... I've got a few VMSS questions: I hear grade 12's are being taught Java, eh? Ok, not really a question, but this is: Why isn't McKenzie a university compsci professor? You'd get alot of leet pc components :wink: ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:10 pm ----------------------------------- So you dislike our legal system? Anarchist, are we? We have been over this all ready, yes i am :roll: And they are right, stop trolling. ----------------------------------- templest Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:56 pm ----------------------------------- meh, I just asked him a question about his religion followed by a simple: "Hail Satan!", and this is what we get. :roll: ----------------------------------- McKenzie Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:09 pm ----------------------------------- Strangely Coutsos, your question (veiled insult at your current prof.?) has a lot to do with the current off topic topic. I feel that I have a real calling to be a positive role model at the high school level. I obviously enjoy what I do or I wouldn't be doing it, but it is also a way to be true to my faith. templest - you either A) don't understand Christianity or B) are purposly misrepresenting it. If you want a debate there is an old/dead topic called Religion that I would be happy to respond in. Java - Seems to be going well. Unfortunately I won't be positive until the end of the year. One of the reasons I've been avoiding going Java is that the rest of the board is embracing it. Call me arrogant but when the board embraces something, it's usually a very bad sign. Talking to current university students has changed my mind (for this year, who knows could be C# in 2-3 years) ----------------------------------- Mazer Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:22 pm ----------------------------------- (veiled insult at your current prof.?) Not this one, but there are some (one involving a friends laptop and projectile motion). I feel that I have a real calling to be a positive role model at the high school level. Darn. Lucky highschool punks! ----------------------------------- templest Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:41 pm ----------------------------------- templest - you either A) don't understand Christianity or B) are purposly misrepresenting it. If you want a debate there is an old/dead topic called Religion that I would be happy to respond in. I've been an active christian for thirteen years (not pertaining to a specific church), and have read the bible completely three times. And that's exactly why I chose Satanism; christianity scares me. Stop trolling!!!!, start a new topic for this if u whont to debate religone like McKenzie was saying.... ----------------------------------- templest Fri Oct 01, 2004 9:17 pm ----------------------------------- You nigger, did you hear me in previous posts? You didn't remove any offensive content from it, because there was none. Thus, there is no reason to modify my post. That's something you could have said in a reply. 3. When in another's lair, show him respect or else do not go there. May be you should falow your own relgiones belfies on this one. Be side why whould i whont to wast posting space to yell at you when i could just tac it on to your post to make it worth while. If i where to post and yell at you for trolling it whould be kind of hypiertical since i whould be geting this topic more off topic and whould just be spaming it like you are. Now if you whont to yell about the mods and how much we suck plz make a new topic for it in spam so we can debate this with out me needing to edit your post to send my mesage. Any more offtopic post in this topic from you will be deleted w/o warning or notice. P.S. just b/c you say somting is wrong like editing your post with a mod message w/o editing the context dose not make it wrong and since this is our site we are fully alowed to edit any content we whont in any way. Tho we perfure not to and to alow free speach as much as posable, but there are times when some poleop go to far and action needs to be taken. ----------------------------------- Martin Sun Oct 03, 2004 11:44 am ----------------------------------- From Waterloo, currently all of the CS classes are using Java. The engineering CS classes ("Alright class, today we are going to learn about if statements.") are using either C# or 'not quite C.' McKenzie, teach your students brainfuck! Never again will you hear complaints about Java or Turing. ;) Also, if you want ideas for assignments, here is my current CS class's website: http://www.student.cs.uwaterloo.ca/~cs134/ The assignments have bitchy formatting, but the general idea is alright. ----------------------------------- McKenzie Sun Oct 03, 2004 9:03 pm ----------------------------------- I wonder if Waterloo would get upset if I gave spoiler assignments to my grade 12s. Just take there first year assignments and dumb them down a bit (if need be.) Sure all the Massey students could just walk through the class with half the work but somehow I don't think they would learn as much. Not to mention how bored they would be. Thanks for the link though Martin, I like to keep up-to-date on what they are doing in University to ensure that I am sending off my students well prepared. ----------------------------------- naoki Fri Oct 08, 2004 5:30 pm ----------------------------------- Ultra-enriched? I heard that he was TAing...but...? He's also happier now that he doesn't have to mark or care about us anymore. The man is cracking more jokes and telling less stories. I think it's the fact that all he has to do is talk when he wants, and not care whether any of us pass his class. That, is up to Mr. Ing to decide (curve our tests please!) ----------------------------------- Andy Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:08 pm ----------------------------------- he popped in our calc class today and gave us this really cool lesson on limits... very very cool... ----------------------------------- Martin Sat Oct 09, 2004 12:08 pm ----------------------------------- Remember everything that he says on limits, it'll get a lot more important next year for you guys. And in other news...myself and a few other 'Warriors' are planning on coming by for Monday math. See you guys there ;) ----------------------------------- Martin Sat Oct 09, 2004 12:39 pm ----------------------------------- Get ready for some first year calculus questions ;) ----------------------------------- Mazer Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:04 pm ----------------------------------- No. Once you leave Windsor, you aren't allowed back. It's the rule, I swear. ----------------------------------- McKenzie Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:47 am ----------------------------------- You'll like this one Coutsos. Today in the pep rally they chanted: "tom...tom...tom...Tom...Tom...TOM...TOM...COUTSOS" almost brought a tear to my eye. ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:48 pm ----------------------------------- arg.. the first good assembly we've had in years and i missed it :cry: ----------------------------------- bugzpodder Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:17 pm ----------------------------------- From Waterloo, currently all of the CS classes are using Java. The engineering CS classes ("Alright class, today we are going to learn about if statements.") are using either C# or 'not quite C.' McKenzie, teach your students brain****! Never again will you hear complaints about Java or Turing. ;) Also, if you want ideas for assignments, here is my current CS class's website: http://www.student.cs.uwaterloo.ca/~cs134/ The assignments have bitchy formatting, but the general idea is alright. The SparseNode class I wrote was about 60 lines. 25 of those lines are function headers and a single line containing a single closing bracket. After adding the required comments, its 200 lines. After adding the test harness they require, it became a whopping 500 lines. ----------------------------------- Martin Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:05 pm ----------------------------------- Mine too. It's rediculous, eh? I think mine came out to 1000+ lines, with all of the required documentation. About 250-300 without. ----------------------------------- bugzpodder Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:18 pm ----------------------------------- mine is 500-800 per file times four files and another 700 for testing/design.txt