----------------------------------- Martin Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:14 pm Windows XP Service Pack 2. ----------------------------------- It's out. What do you think? I installed it on my m6805 and everything went to hell. Login time jumped from 5 seconds to about 3 minutes. None of the extra buttons worked anymore. It completely ignored my [fn] key. And if I tried to shut down, the computer completely locked up on me. Also, it locked up randomly as well. It looked cool. They got rid of the professional in the boot screen (why?). Plus the wireless network wizard was very good. So the conclusion? Another typical Microsoft release. Post your thoughts. ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:42 pm ----------------------------------- I think only M$ could come up with gr8 secuity imporvments like Yelling at you ever 5 seconeds b/c your crapy windows firewall is not on when u have a hardware fire wall and that your anti virus software is not uptodate when it is. Realy this could make things more sceucer for my comp, it will get so anyoned i will reboot in to linux and stay there (that whould be 100000 times more secure then windows). Also the IE pop-up blocker is a joke and just messes over sites that uses pop-ups for menus like gmail. That boot screen thing pissed me off as well, i had my own boot screen instaled and it looked prity sweat and now i got to remod it. They seemed to have also chaged the wifi icon and made some chagees there, i am still not shure if it is any better tho. If they keep going on like this with "secrity updates" the next one will disable your netconection and when u reanable it, it will make a big flashing red screen come up with bells going off saying "warning, warning, you are online, omg we are all going to die". ----------------------------------- rdrake Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:43 pm ----------------------------------- The security centre is annoying, boot time increased like yours, HDD crashed a few days later. I do like the better wireless support though. It does more harm than good unless you've installed it after a fresh reformat. ----------------------------------- Paul Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:43 pm ----------------------------------- so... should I get it? ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:47 pm ----------------------------------- yes, but back up everything u whont to keep 1st. I blive there are some import secuity holes that are fixed in that update. Has any one tryed to install it on a dual booting comp? 1/2 windows, 1/2 linux? b/c i do not whont to have windows eat my linux partion (agane). ----------------------------------- shorthair Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:06 pm ----------------------------------- worked for me fine , and you can disable the windows security centre , there is a check box saying " Dont worry about Firewall protection " and one for antivirus , that was you dont get annoying messages , Make sure its an official release aswell , and not hte final beta or a ripped version , Grab hte bit torrent version from suprnove ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:08 pm ----------------------------------- well i whould think most poloep whould download it from windows update, unless of corse u have illgeal copys of winxp. I got to find that don't wory about firewall buttion b/c this thing is drving me nuts. ----------------------------------- rdrake Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:20 pm ----------------------------------- Turn off the new security centre: Start -> Settings -> Control Panel. Double-click on the Security Centre icon. Click on "Change the way Security Center alerts me" Uncheck whatever ones you don't want and click ok. ----------------------------------- shorthair Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:22 pm ----------------------------------- i havent checked wheter its on Windows update yet ,the first 2 weeks it came out , they choose not to put it on there , they used torrents and Sharing , they didnt want to flood their servers , ----------------------------------- Martin Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:46 pm ----------------------------------- I did install it from a fresh format. I don't know about the IE popup thing, because I refuse to use IE. Hopefully they'll fix this. Until then, i've got my firefox :D ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:43 pm ----------------------------------- Well i do not use IE ether, i just whonted to see what they chaged in it. Firefox is still wayyyyyyyyyyy better. ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:00 pm ----------------------------------- OMG, i have been instaling SP2 on all my comps and i just got to my laptop and now the wifi is messed to hell. the net works when it says it is not conected and it dose not work when it says it is conected. Also on another one of my comps with a legal cd key and copy of windows SP2 side that my comp had a bad cd key and deacivted it. Now it says to put in the cd key, and i have tryed like 5 difrent legal ones and it says they are all invaled. Where is that linux cd...... ----------------------------------- Mazer Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:16 pm ----------------------------------- Good thing I lost my legal CD and am now protected from this new virus. Er, new "fix", I mean. ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:19 pm ----------------------------------- lol, so true. so far out of the 4 comps i have instaled it on it has done bad things to 2 of them and realy anyoing things to 1. I still have one more comp to try it on but i am thinking i may be better off just throwing it out the window on to the street and then runing it over servreal times with a car. (no one will hack it then :p) ----------------------------------- Paul Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:06 am ----------------------------------- no... who REALLY pays for windows... out of the 4 different windows CD's I've used for the past 6 years, I've yet to pay for one... ----------------------------------- Andy Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:43 am ----------------------------------- yo, if i have the earliest version of windows, and i install service pack 2, do i still need to install the other updates? ----------------------------------- Martin Fri Aug 27, 2004 11:59 am ----------------------------------- I've got like 5 legal copies of Windows XP. My dad does advertising for Microsoft (and Chrysler), so I get all of this shit for free. No free cars yet though. For me at least... Anyway, when I've got a surplus of cds, I take them to Futureshop, say that these were recieved as gifts and I don't have reciepts, and they're like 'Okay, but that means these are only good for in store credit.' Futureshop sells Windows XP at $450 a box. Multiply by three and...:D ----------------------------------- Andy Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:06 pm ----------------------------------- wtf??? free comps??? ----------------------------------- Paul Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:31 pm ----------------------------------- wow, I've saved enough money to get a new computer int he past 6 years... now I'l have to convince my parents :) ----------------------------------- bugzpodder Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:28 pm ----------------------------------- i emailed guys at microsoft and they gave me XP for free, along with VS .net right now i am trying to make my harddrive 100% legal but i think you get some free softwares from waterloo if you go there ----------------------------------- Martin Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:38 pm ----------------------------------- My hard drive is 100% legal. Free XP, Office and Visual Studio.net. A lot of music (20 gigs) but the legality of that is arguable. ----------------------------------- wtd Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:57 pm ----------------------------------- wow, I've saved enough money to get a new computer int he past 6 years... now I'l have to convince my parents :) Not to convince you to ignore your parents or anything, but if you have enough money for a new computer, why ask? ----------------------------------- Martin Fri Aug 27, 2004 6:18 pm ----------------------------------- Apparently Service Pack 2 really screws up on AMD64 boxes, which was why it was so bad on mine. ----------------------------------- wtd Fri Aug 27, 2004 6:39 pm ----------------------------------- Apparently Service Pack 2 really screws up on AMD64 boxes, which was why it was so bad on mine. Yep. Microsoft threw their buddies at Intel a bone. ----------------------------------- Martin Fri Aug 27, 2004 6:40 pm ----------------------------------- Way to pull a Microsoft, Microsoft. ----------------------------------- Mazer Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:36 pm ----------------------------------- On the topic of doing things illegally and screwing Microsoft at every opporunity possible, would an XP Home product key work with an XP Pro installation? And why the hell do they print the product keys on stickers to put on computer cases? ----------------------------------- Martin Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:39 pm ----------------------------------- No it wouldn't. They print it there because it's harder to lose:p ----------------------------------- Mazer Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:40 pm ----------------------------------- Hm. Anybody want a free key? :P Just kidding, I wouldn't do that here. ----------------------------------- Mazer Fri Aug 27, 2004 8:09 pm ----------------------------------- They print it there because it's harder to lose:p Silly Windows newbies. :P ----------------------------------- Dan Fri Aug 27, 2004 11:41 pm ----------------------------------- I got 5 winxp comps with windows xp corpert editon ;) All of them are legal arocding to M$ :twisted: If you are going to steal winxp u realy should uses a key that is not used by 10000s poleop of u will never get any updates to install. It is very easy to make windows cd keys that will work if you have the right vreson you just got to look in to it a bit :twisted: ----------------------------------- Paul Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:48 am ----------------------------------- wow, I've saved enough money to get a new computer int he past 6 years... now I'l have to convince my parents :) Not to convince you to ignore your parents or anything, but if you have enough money for a new computer, why ask? ah. if u read my post above, thats non-existant money I've saved by not buying windows... geez, now I sound like a bell phone bill... ----------------------------------- Mazer Sat Aug 28, 2004 1:07 pm ----------------------------------- It is very easy to make windows cd keys that will work if you have the right vreson you just got to look in to it a bit :twisted: No time for that, I'm too busy looking up cracks and keys for my copies of Linux! ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:36 am ----------------------------------- i got a nice lil cpy of winxp pro, takes three cds to get it fully working tho ----------------------------------- Amailer Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:33 pm ----------------------------------- Just installed Service Pack 2-- no problems yet except that-- i have to allow all the programs that i need to connect to the internet... agrrr ----------------------------------- the_short1 Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:28 pm ----------------------------------- i just isntalled all the MS updates for windows 98... NOT A SINGLE VISIBLE CHANGE OR ANOYANCE TO REPORT! .... thats why i like windows 98.. every post i read makes me hate xp more and more.. :( and my new computer to come has xp :( * can i make it dual booot (xp and 98) easily? darkness... makes that sly.... very sly...smart tho.. but ... if u install this service pack as soon as u isntall winows xp home ... it should be ok tho?