----------------------------------- octopi Sun Apr 06, 2003 5:21 pm Rate your teacher... ----------------------------------- Just wondering how everyone else likes their teachers (computer teacher) ----------------------------------- Tony Sun Apr 06, 2003 7:57 pm ----------------------------------- you know something is wrong when you can write tutorials explaining stuff better then your teacher... As I see it... the best I can hope for is a motivation to learn new things. I still get it from my old compsci teacher. If you actually learn something from your teacher OTHER then the sytax... well you're in luck. Please interview your teacher, ask why :P I'm serios. I dont think compsci teachers explain how to do stuff or algorythms and stuff. Best you can hope for is an example in which sertain syntax is used. "using loops you can loop through the code. It can count numbers" :? ----------------------------------- Asok Sun Apr 06, 2003 8:04 pm ----------------------------------- The problem as I see it is not directly with the teachers but with the course itself, a good teacher will make it challenging and as such, stimulating and exciting, the problem is the bulk of it is very basic, and I know from experience that a lot of comp sci teachers only know what is on the curriculum, so if you're advanced beyond the curriculum you can't get much help from your teacher as such your teacher doesn't appear as knowledgable as you are and that's where the problem appears. I do believe that certain teachers should definitely be re-evaluated over a period of time to see if they warrant retraining. This is a lot more apparent in the public school system, but some private schools also suffer from the faculty not being skilled enough in the field to support advanced students. This problem is really only apparent in math based courses, such as comp science, as it comes down to your ability to grasp concepts. ----------------------------------- Blade Sun Apr 06, 2003 8:10 pm ----------------------------------- the teachers know the syntax... so the algorythms should be easy for them... if they cant make their own algorythms they shouldnt be teaching... i actually tought a class once because i argued with my teacher, and he asked me to do it thinking i wouldnt... but i ended up being right.. (dumbass) ----------------------------------- Asok Sun Apr 06, 2003 8:21 pm ----------------------------------- lol I hate when teachers do that, I ended up putting my old comp sci teacher in his place by doing that by teaching a whole term and getting him fired, fucking dimwit, carried around an HTML for dummies book. ----------------------------------- Tony Sun Apr 06, 2003 8:24 pm ----------------------------------- well check out my school - we got a network admin for compsci teacher, NOT compsci teacher for network admin... and he's not good at it ether, we got some grade 12 student with admin access to the network to maintain it. anyway, I've heard he's not gonna be teaching computers next year... just my AP course :? wtf? I'm screwed, eh? ----------------------------------- Asok Sun Apr 06, 2003 8:27 pm ----------------------------------- yes you are, I highly reccomend a c++ extracurricular, theres a few good ones in Toronto. but the point is we should not have to turn to extra curriculars to get the education we SHOULD be getting in school. ----------------------------------- octopi Mon Apr 07, 2003 3:29 pm ----------------------------------- My teacher, well she is better then the teacher we had last year. I have a few problems with this one though, first off she takes off marks if things are too complex. and secondly, she says this are wrong, and then I have to go and research it, to prove her wrong. She also limits us (me) on what I can do, which sucks :( ----------------------------------- Asok Mon Apr 07, 2003 4:58 pm ----------------------------------- kick her ass octopi! don't take shit from moronic teachers! k don't actually, but don't stand for it. ----------------------------------- void Mon Apr 07, 2003 6:25 pm teachers are dum ----------------------------------- seriously! i have a teacher who majored in history and minored in bussines....and he teaches my CS....i am acing his class because he doesnt even undestand my coding....he doesnt even run to see if its right....i used procedures to do a gold score program and he saw the word procedure and he's like how did u do this? and i was like...i didnt copy anyone..and he was like i kno...im just wondering how this works...i was thinking...AND THIS GUY CAN TEACH CS?!?!?!?!?!....yea OCTOPI....dont stand for ur teachers bullshit...if you know that you are right and your program does what its supposed to....the teacher cant take of marks if your program is 20 lines less then hers just coz ur smarter...i hate when teachers make you do that....like in math my teacher wont let us do tan/cos/sin etc. because he din teach it...but the WHOLE FREAKIN CLASS KNOWS THE LAWS THAT APPLY!!!! most teachers nowadays are underqualified because the government was not smart enough to think about how the new curriculum is goin to affect the teachers....if you asked a gr.12 chem teacher about gr.11 stuff he wouldnt be able to help you because hes not used to doing that....the same way if you tell a gr.11 teacher that suddenly s/he's gonna hafta stick in an extra year of material in the same time what is he supposed ta do..when you think about it...the governemt should be doing tests on teachers instead of making us do EQAO and LITERACY TEST and the rest of that stuff to make sure we're not failing ----------------------------------- Blade Mon Apr 07, 2003 7:10 pm ----------------------------------- well... we could think of it this way... when we get out there,we will take over the teachers positions... and we will rule the world with our smartness!!!! :D ... but my teacher isnt bad... now i have a student/teacher..he modified what he's teaching the class for "harder" stuff for me... but he only knows turing so that blows... i was hopin i could move onto somethin a lil more complex but it doesnt look that way... the hopes i have for me have dieded... but hey, next year will be better... hopefully :? ----------------------------------- Asok Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:44 pm ----------------------------------- void, I'm all for the literacy test, as there are a LOT of morons at my school who pass due to sympathetic teachers. I know certain teachers are under-qualified and having them do tests to see if they are still capable of teaching would bring down so much shit from the teacher's union about exposing the ignorance of the faculty or something. And there is a MASSIVE cost to retraining all those teachers, even though I believe they should be retrained, where is the money coming from? ----------------------------------- Dan Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:54 pm ----------------------------------- hey the literacy test is just wrong. standerided testing is not efective and it is wrong to depetime some ones fucher on one crpay test that is not even wirten well. alouth i do agreage wiith you about some poleop geting an easy ride, standised testing is not a answaer. P.S. for those of you whodering, yes dan, spurising, did pass the literacy test :wink: ----------------------------------- Asok Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:57 pm ----------------------------------- *shocked* :shock: ok not really, I sorta saw that one coming. :roll: j/k anyways, I'm just saying some people need to be held back as opposed to coasting through schools due to sympathetic teacher or rich parents. ----------------------------------- void Tue Apr 08, 2003 6:40 am ----------------------------------- i kno a guy who is getting 90's and failed two sections (and his teacher hates him...he's islamic and the teacher is straight up jew) but there is another kid i kno who wrote the test a second time...AND HE WAS ALLOWED TO GET HELP FROM THE TEACH!!! how "standardizzed" is that testing... (dun wory dan....we all knew you could use a pencil better than ur keyboard :P) **i passed**...money is the vice in this situation...but i realized that co-op teachers are better than real teachers...maybe that switch should oocure to offset the dumb teachers in the skool :> ----------------------------------- Asok Tue Apr 08, 2003 10:20 am ----------------------------------- void, that's racial prejudice, if you can collect evidence proving that, your teacher can actually be sued for racial descrimination. The school probably wont want that kind of publicity and will probably settle the case by firing the teacher. I love the legal system :) ----------------------------------- Prince Tue Apr 08, 2003 10:24 am ----------------------------------- asok wen will u learn.. the system doesnt work! (ok mayb in sum cases)... in other news ive reached Programmer level on the bit system :D (im so happy) ----------------------------------- Tony Tue Apr 08, 2003 10:59 am ----------------------------------- well its not really based on bit system (although it should), just number of posts... just dont have time or PHP knowledge to change it. but yes, system doesnt work, and if we start messing with it, it might all fall appart. Heck, I've read there're 1800+ untrained teachers in Ontario alone. What if we force them to get trained? they'd need money for that, but nowhere to get it. They already made soo much cuts from what I've read in newspapers, the only place left to get money is selling chairs or cutting something not many people use anyway. And how many people are going are using those P3s (if you even have them) in your school anyway? With their knowledge, they'll figure you can use P1s and program in DOS turing once again. ****ing government. There's no way out of it. They create their own problems by tring to save money but a bit later they loose more because of their actions and now have to "save" more. ----------------------------------- void Tue Apr 08, 2003 3:17 pm ----------------------------------- AGREE DEEPLY!!!!!....yea the system doesnt work!!...no teacher is going to admit to racism....and if you say something to someone about a teacher being racist they can suspend you under false accusation.....(i think :? ) but yea.....the world is unfair.....i'm a novice and i know more about programming (no offence)...than some of these kids that post questions abuot tooo much help requiring!!!! and ther've all reached programmer :evil: i agree...my skoool has p3's and they run just as fast as our p2's (for the programms we run) we dont even do multi-compiling or anything...all you need is a good freakin server to host the network and most kids will never notice the difference....(actually i think the screen shots program takes up alot of memory on its part).....we need better teachers....lets order some....im sure we can get proffeser mcgonagle and dumbledore over here...we got REAL money not magical crap :roll: ----------------------------------- DarkHelmet Tue Apr 08, 2003 3:46 pm ----------------------------------- I believe that the literacy test should be mandatory. But not for everyone. People who are getting in the 70's, 80's or 90's in the class are clearly literate. Either that or their teachers are complete morons. I can understand people getting in the 50's or low 60's having to write the test. And the EQAO test has absolutely no relevance at all. It has no effect on whether you graduate, and it doesn't affect anyone's marks. People don't even bother trying on that test. It's just a majour waste of everyone's money. They should get rid of the EQAO test, and use the money they save to replace the textbooks that are literally falling apart. ----------------------------------- Catalyst Tue Apr 08, 2003 3:51 pm ----------------------------------- at our school they count part of the EQAO as 10% of ur gr.9 math mark ----------------------------------- Dan Tue Apr 08, 2003 4:01 pm ----------------------------------- at our school they count part of the EQAO as 10% of ur gr.9 math mark OMG, that is just wrong. *dan movies the EQAO to top of his to distory list, oh wate they are allreay on top :evil: * ----------------------------------- octopi Tue Apr 08, 2003 4:12 pm ----------------------------------- Theres still the big problem about people cheating, that makes me slightly ticked. There are people in my classes (mostly math) that know nothing, but yet they have 90-95%, they cheat, and do good on every test, but yet during class they never understand anything. I wish there was a way to test people on there understanding of things, not just on what they can read on each other's page. Or even some system where teachers who catch people cheating give them like say a point, and when you apply to univ. and college the school also sends the number of points you have too. That way people who cheat could be put on the same playing feild with those who know what they are doing. Like right now teachers threaten to give people a zero on there test if they cheat, but I have never seen a teacher do that. ----------------------------------- Tony Tue Apr 08, 2003 4:35 pm ----------------------------------- my teacher once caught two guys having a cheat sheet... but he was fair about it... he didnt count only the info that was on the cheet sheet... well those guys managed to fit the whole chapter onto a small piece of paper (rendering it useless that way) and getting 0 anyway :? but octopi is right. its not fair for others who study hard (or just know it) ----------------------------------- Asok Tue Apr 08, 2003 5:19 pm ----------------------------------- tony, that's at least better than my careers class where EVERYONE cheats, it's so blatantly obvious, the ground his covered in papers, and my teacher is just a complete moron and doesn't notice. She even stepped on someones cheat sheet and didn't realise. I want to smack her. ----------------------------------- Prince Tue Apr 08, 2003 5:47 pm ----------------------------------- muahahaha, while ur all stuck on p3's, our comp lab jus got brand new p4's :twisted: (thnx to the good ppl at Dell 8) )..... and asok its only careers, its not like u learn anythin useful in that class anyway (cept for how to conduct a good business interview) but yea, a demerit point type system would b good to use on cheaters but its not like teachers actually watch the students during tests to catch thos cheaters ----------------------------------- JayLo Tue Apr 08, 2003 7:22 pm ----------------------------------- lol, true that. I see some of my friends sneak in cheats sheets, not to mention extendo-rods (but that's another story) ----------------------------------- Blade Tue Apr 08, 2003 7:25 pm ----------------------------------- all you guys are so lucky... i program on a p2 300... and those are some of the best in the school... we have 2 sign out labs... one full of celeron 233s (or somethin like that) and the other lab is p1 133.... although the few we have in the library are alright.. p3 at 800... but its only the library... hardly ever gets used.. ----------------------------------- JayLo Tue Apr 08, 2003 7:26 pm ----------------------------------- my teacher spent his time flirting for the entire time! :lol: ----------------------------------- Asok Tue Apr 08, 2003 11:51 pm ----------------------------------- You should all consider yourselves lucky your schools dont have MACS! *wields a baseball bat* *unviels an iMac* You know what has got to happen :D OOOH YEA 8) ----------------------------------- Tony Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:16 am ----------------------------------- they got macs at metro? since when? :? w/e, I like my P4s at school, good for programming... though I use P3s in the library most of the time for other stuff. ----------------------------------- Asok Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:29 am ----------------------------------- well not at metro because I'd leave the school ;) but many schools across the nation are using macs cuz they're cheap and they suxx0rz ----------------------------------- ZeroKelvin Fri Apr 25, 2003 10:38 am ----------------------------------- my math teacher is pure evil, my french teacher hates me, she gave me detention for not saying "Hi" to her... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: i will never forget... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: ----------------------------------- element Fri May 02, 2003 10:27 pm ----------------------------------- I didn't bother reading through all of the messages but just to let you know that this site exists: http://www.ratemyteacher.com/index.jsp [Do not bother replying to this post :arrow: Milliken people] ----------------------------------- haujobb Sun May 04, 2003 12:13 am ----------------------------------- tony, that's at least better than my careers class where EVERYONE cheats, it's so blatantly obvious, the ground his covered in papers, and my teacher is just a complete moron and doesn't notice. She even stepped on someones cheat sheet and didn't realise. I want to smack her. Ah careers is the worst class, even worse than learning about the gov in civics (but my civ teacher is hot so its alrite), my careers teacher was soooo stupid. err :x :x :x ----------------------------------- kythoon Sun May 04, 2003 7:50 pm ----------------------------------- well take a look at my teacher http://www.ratemyteachers.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=31113 hasn't taught me since march break ----------------------------------- Homer_simpson Sun May 04, 2003 8:14 pm ----------------------------------- My comp teacher is dumb old bald fat,n paki guy... but he's ok as long as he gives me good marks :D ----------------------------------- naoki Sun Jun 22, 2003 10:54 am ----------------------------------- just thought i'd bring this back up how about some year end reviews? ----------------------------------- Dark Mist Sun Jun 22, 2003 11:53 am ----------------------------------- still not good ----------------------------------- krishon Sun Jun 22, 2003 7:08 pm ----------------------------------- lol, at least my teacher made lesson's interesting and marked really eazily. after some idiot broke her leg..we had the worse teacher ever....even one in our school wants to hang him. ----------------------------------- Amailer Sun Jun 22, 2003 7:40 pm ----------------------------------- got so many teachers....which one to pick...well all suck, non are good, but still IM DOING AMAZING in school... :) all though no one over here is in my grd ----------------------------------- Homer_simpson Sun Jun 22, 2003 7:42 pm ----------------------------------- which grade are u at? ----------------------------------- Amailer Sun Jun 22, 2003 7:44 pm ----------------------------------- really wanan know? goign to 8th :( DOn't make fun of me~!!!! :) ----------------------------------- Andy Mon Jun 23, 2003 3:10 pm ----------------------------------- my compsci teacher is awsome... too bad he's retiring ----------------------------------- naoki Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:17 pm ----------------------------------- amailer's pretty good. 8th grade and he's mumbling about SQLnet and PHP ........... hell i didn't even know how to make a webpage until i was in grade 7 ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon Jun 23, 2003 7:32 pm ----------------------------------- Im in the 7th now....im going to the 8th next year. I started on making web sites when i was in the 6th :). Not PHP/MYSQL BTW, thx :) ----------------------------------- Andy Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:10 pm ----------------------------------- lol naoki, ya but the asian girls from our school knew html when they were in 6th grade cause of Asian Avenue ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:20 pm ----------------------------------- omg! that! that site...its not HTML! what are you talking about, its just copy html code, don't understand it, and past it, and it will work...err..ya ----------------------------------- naoki Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:17 pm ----------------------------------- man dodge didn't u hear Asian Avenue gives u SARS? and teh ghey? seriously though ...... those templates aren't html. i've got 3 programs that do that .... and they don't help me understand a single thing about html ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:18 pm ----------------------------------- Its like...yahoo page builder... ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:29 pm ----------------------------------- ah......i still remember the days......HTML...... Reminiscing over the days when I thought HTML was a programming language..... and they should ban AsianAve, it's one of the most pointless site ever, not only does it promote racial segregation(come on, Asian Avenue?), it's just plain pointless, man, the stuff people put on there....so pointless, wasting cyber memory..... ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:38 pm ----------------------------------- 1) ASIAN does not mean Chinese! Not meaning to be offensive, but it does not 2) Your right, that site is pointless, there are so many other sites that people can use, that atleast show you something ABOUT HTML. All that does is let people put their info [[ which has nothign to do with html, its like a form, type in your info and etc ]] And then it gives them templated, or something like that [[ set BG to their site and etc ]] 3) err..its so...boring? Everyone has the same damm layout? ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:26 am ----------------------------------- 1. Asian to us means oriental 2. Oriental to us means chinese 3. if ur oriental and not chinese, well u look close enough man every body should WANT to be chinese man... no offense to u white boyz out there ----------------------------------- ShadowStorm Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:46 am ----------------------------------- lol.. my teacher... i could write an essay about how much annyoing he his and i hat him :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: but i think this would do it... http://www.ratemyteachers.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=31113 ----------------------------------- naoki Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:13 am ----------------------------------- math teacher was scary he once told one of our failing peers "do you want to die?" and uncomfortable silence follows ...... "cuz ur gonna if u don't pick up the pace" "i mean seriously, u hav 2 start working or else they'll find u dead in this classroom" [meaningless discussion] "repeat after me: i don't want 2 die. i want 2 do better. i will not commit suicide in this class" nice huh? wats also scary is he's more influential than the director of education practically ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:19 pm ----------------------------------- lol but he is the best math teacher in the country, and he did get a ph.d for his *ahem* "good" works ----------------------------------- BlAcK TuRtLe Tue Jun 24, 2003 6:04 pm ----------------------------------- Man my comps teacher is more interested in flirting with the ugly grade 11 girls in my class than anything else. Most of the turing stuff I know came from this site. All he does is lecture for 30 minutes about the impact comps have on the job market then gives us 3 easy questions about stuff he didnt really teach. Not surprising is that a good half of the class has under 60 while the other half[me included] has over 90. ----------------------------------- naoki Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:26 pm ----------------------------------- u should try make-up man .... get u over 100 or something a little cleavage 2 ----------------------------------- Andy Wed Jun 25, 2003 11:29 am ----------------------------------- lol... naoki quit hitting on him or should is ay "her"... ----------------------------------- BlAcK TuRtLe Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:26 pm ----------------------------------- see the thing is most of them dont wear make up and have no cleavage :wink: lol ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:51 am ----------------------------------- lol, man ur teacher has really low standards then... ----------------------------------- naoki Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:35 pm ----------------------------------- mmmmmm ...... black turtle .......... i see them girls must be asian huh? ur description fits 9/10 azn girls perfectly (and sadly) ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:56 pm ----------------------------------- naoki you know chinese girls dun need make up unless its cathy and her friends... ----------------------------------- naoki Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:21 pm ----------------------------------- that's cuz they got nothing else going for them that's like trying to cover up a dead animal by putting a blanket over it ----------------------------------- Andy Fri Jun 27, 2003 9:01 am ----------------------------------- oh wait that girl in grade nine Jenny Wang wears alot of make up... her bag is filled sith it. i knew her in grade 7, used to walk to school with her, she changed so much... weird. ----------------------------------- naoki Fri Jun 27, 2003 4:36 pm ----------------------------------- wtf how did u know her in gr7 when she went 2 campbell? i thought she took teh bus ... ----------------------------------- Andy Fri Jun 27, 2003 5:17 pm ----------------------------------- no moron, when i was in grade 7, not her, she was in gr 6 ----------------------------------- naoki Fri Jun 27, 2003 10:57 pm ----------------------------------- really?! i forgot when she went 2 campbell ah w/e i dun care. errmmm, word has it that mr.ing's gonna take over gr.12 ics job. man, i hope he's nice. better get some bribe money built up ... ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Sat Jun 28, 2003 7:17 am ----------------------------------- ....... ----------------------------------- Andy Sun Jun 29, 2003 1:36 pm ----------------------------------- way to spam silversprite ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Sun Jun 29, 2003 4:59 pm ----------------------------------- way to spam silversprite SilverSprite is spamming? look who is talking, this thread turned from a teacher rating thread to a personal discussion about some girl who wears make up that you know in grade 6? I think his reaction was disgust, seeing how you people spam the forum so much. Guys, this is not a chat room, if you want to chat, use MSN or ICQ, leave your chitchats somewhere else. ----------------------------------- naoki Sun Jun 29, 2003 10:04 pm ----------------------------------- sorry azn_s actually it was amailer's intriguing topic about his sexist teacher, and then dodge naturally commented on the "qualities" of azn girls ----------------------------------- Amailer Sun Jun 29, 2003 10:14 pm ----------------------------------- sorry azn_s actually it was amailer's intriguing topic about his sexist teacher, and then dodge naturally commented on the "qualities" of azn girls i did not post any topic about any teacher... ----------------------------------- naoki Mon Jun 30, 2003 1:22 pm ----------------------------------- Man my comps teacher is more interested in flirting with the ugly grade 11 girls in my class than anything else. Most of the turing stuff I know came from this site. All he does is lecture for 30 minutes about the impact comps have on the job market then gives us 3 easy questions about stuff he didnt really teach. Not surprising is that a good half of the class has under 60 while the other half sorry Amailer, i apologize. didn't check my sources. As u can c, it was Black Turtle who mentioned the sexist teacher. Wow, that was a careless post :x ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon Jun 30, 2003 1:31 pm ----------------------------------- WELL IM VERY MAD...not np :) ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Jul 01, 2003 7:26 am ----------------------------------- man this is getting no where, jsbn/asok lock it ----------------------------------- Asok Tue Jul 01, 2003 3:53 pm ----------------------------------- It'll be locked if I deem it to be locked. ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Tue Jul 01, 2003 4:31 pm ----------------------------------- ouch.. dodge that must have hurt.. its ok though.. dont cry:P ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Jul 01, 2003 5:36 pm ----------------------------------- huh wha? what's going on???? ----------------------------------- naoki Tue Jul 01, 2003 10:09 pm ----------------------------------- dodge is getting reamed from above .... asok's reign is being expanded ----------------------------------- Andy Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:22 am ----------------------------------- lol asok owns everyone anyways... ----------------------------------- Jonny Tight Lips Mon Aug 04, 2003 9:06 pm ----------------------------------- I'm not in hight school yet but at my school we didn't even have a computer class EVER :shock: . we used to but they took it away. like whats up with that. :evil: ----------------------------------- naoki Thu Aug 07, 2003 11:26 pm ----------------------------------- wicked ... too bad i haven't been here in a while when did jonny tightlips become a lamer? ----------------------------------- Amailer Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:24 am ----------------------------------- I'm not in hight school yet but at my school we didn't even have a computer class EVER :shock: . we used to but they took it away. like whats up with that. :evil: Atleast you had comp classes... Here they never started :? ----------------------------------- Asok Fri Aug 08, 2003 3:05 am ----------------------------------- Atleast you had comp classes... Here they never started :? bah you're not missing out on much, except to "learn" some stuff you allready know. Oh and lots of pointless notes. "Flowcharts and Pseudocode"