----------------------------------- bevoyleick Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:38 pm Number game: 1,3,4,6--> make 24 ----------------------------------- as topic, you're only allowed to use "basic" math symbols, including +,-,*,/, and brackets eg: 1+2*3+4=11 *13+46=59 IS NOT ALLOWED Spam....Moved....dodge, hurry up, get back and clean your spam area.... ----------------------------------- Paul Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:59 pm ----------------------------------- wah..? i don't get it. ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:37 pm ----------------------------------- 5,5,5,1 try to get 24 with that 3,3,8,8 try to get 24 with that both are possible, btw. oh, the answer for 1,3,4,6 is 6 / (1 - (3/4)) easy ----------------------------------- jonos Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:52 pm ----------------------------------- don't the numbers have to be in the order of which they first appeared? ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:29 pm ----------------------------------- I'm pretty sure it doesn't... I've been playing the 24 game for quite some times. Namely because my Chinese translator has that on it (and tetris, the 2 games I play on it), and when I get bored or whatever, I just play that. ----------------------------------- the_short1 Sun Mar 28, 2004 8:25 pm ----------------------------------- ok... so would this work??? 2*12=24? or do i need more terms??? or does all the numbers (2,12) have to total 24 when added???? ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:34 pm ----------------------------------- no, you have 4 numbers, and you try to make 24 out of it. Usually you play this with a deck of cards. like you draw 4 cards, and then try to make 24 according to the face value of those cards. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:25 pm ----------------------------------- another for 1,3,4,6 is (1^3)*4*6 for 5,5,5, 1 its ((sqrt (5 * 5)) * 5) - 1 ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:47 pm ----------------------------------- hehehe, sorry Cervantes, notice the rule, only basic math operators, namely, the +, -, * and / could be used. No square root, no power, no log, no sin, cos, tan, blah blah blah. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:33 pm ----------------------------------- not cool ....... :( ----------------------------------- Cervantes Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:14 am ----------------------------------- ahaha! got it! (5-(1/5))*5 woot ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Sat Apr 03, 2004 11:48 pm ----------------------------------- nice nice. Gj on getting that one. Now the 8,3,8,3 one won't be hard either, as soon as you got the 5,5,5,1 thing. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:21 am ----------------------------------- no way! I can't get the 3388 one, and I've tried so amazingly hard.. even got other ppl to help me. no one can get it :( ill get it eventually..... :eh: ----------------------------------- Catalyst Sun Apr 04, 2004 8:59 pm ----------------------------------- 8/(3-8/3) oh no i ruined it for you :lol: ----------------------------------- zeldamaster1230 Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:38 am Thought I had it ----------------------------------- damn damn damn damn damn damn I thought I had it, today, on the bus but it turns out that Catalyst got it first ... and I was wrong! Oh well ... any more? ----------------------------------- Cervantes Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:56 am ----------------------------------- dylan... what are you talking about its wrong?! harder to explain without drawing on paper... hmm :think: http://members.lycos.co.uk/iiharlssoabwd/8833to24.bmp like that :lol: but if go into Turing and do put 8 / (3 + (3/8)) it doesn't give you 24. cuz it doesn't know bedmas. the pic up there is the same as: http://members.lycos.co.uk/iiharlssoabwd/8833_check.bmp yes? if so thats 8/3 + 64/ 3 = 72 / 3 = 24. EDIT: shows how much I do in civics class... :lol:[/i] ----------------------------------- Raugrist Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:36 pm ----------------------------------- but if go into Turing and do put 8 / (3 + (3/8)) it doesn't give you 24. cuz it doesn't know bedmas. Yes, Turing does know the order of operations. Your statement doesn't give you 24 because is should be 3 - 3/8 instead of plus. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:33 pm ----------------------------------- um. 8/3 - 8/3/8 = 8/3 - 64/3 = -56/3 not= 24 however 8/3 + 8/3/8 = 8/3 + 64/3 = 72/3 = 24. like in the previous post. yes? ----------------------------------- Catalyst Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:19 pm ----------------------------------- 8/3/8= (8/3)*(1/8 ) = 8/24 = 1/3 which is not 64/3 ----------------------------------- Cervantes Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:59 pm ----------------------------------- your not multiplying 8/3 by 1 / 8 though. dunno how to explain it without drawing.. dunno if i could with drawing :think: however, take a calculator that has the fraction key and try it. you get 64/3. The only problem with it is... IS 8/ (3+ (3/8 )) the same as 8/3 + 8/3/8? EDIT: Catalyst. you should be ashamed. 8/(3/8) means we're dividing 8 by 3/8. When dividing fractions, we use the reciprical of the second term and multiply them. 8 / 3/8 = 8 * 8/3 = 64 / 3 ----------------------------------- PaddyLong Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:15 pm ----------------------------------- 8 / ( 3 + ( 3 / 8 ) ) = 8 / ( 27 / 8 ) = ( 8 / 1 ) * ( 8 / 27 ) = 64 / 27 ----------------------------------- Cervantes Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:46 pm ----------------------------------- but if you divide 8 by 3 and 8 by 3/8 first then its right. so, which is done first in this equation: 8 / 3 + (3/8 ). If you add them first, is there anyway to use brackets to make it divide 8 by each? I can't think of one, but then again I'm totally braindead right now :wink: ----------------------------------- Catalyst Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:17 pm ----------------------------------- no i shouldnt be ashamed u missed some brackets 8/3/8 is equal 1/3 8/(3/8 ) is a different question and is equal to 64/3 also multiplying by 1/8 is the same as dividing by 8 finally you cant break up the question like that 1/(5+2) is not equal to 1/5+1/2 it only works when its the other way (5+2)/3 is equal to 5/3+2/3 ----------------------------------- Cervantes Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:30 pm ----------------------------------- sry, i meant to draw the 3/8 part of the 8/3/8 smaller, but, you know, i was doing it in paint and with crappy school mice :? so then your way is the only way to do it? :cry: ----------------------------------- Catalyst Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:38 pm ----------------------------------- im not sure its the only one i can see ----------------------------------- Cervantes Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:55 pm ----------------------------------- :cry: Asian / Anyone else. are there any others? ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:57 pm ----------------------------------- yeah, Catalyst's way is the only way of doing that problem. Though it was a hard problem for a 24 game. Ask bugz if you want more of these, I'm sure he has some, since I got the 3,8,3,8 from him.