----------------------------------- apomb Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:12 pm Mozilla ----------------------------------- who uses mozilla and why can't i see the effects on ppl's names (MY OWN!) :evil: ----------------------------------- Tony Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:02 pm ----------------------------------- i use firefox and glows/shadows are not supported :P I still prefer it over IE ----------------------------------- Catalyst Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:52 am ----------------------------------- I think its only IE Go Mozilla FireBird/Fox/Shark ----------------------------------- Amailer Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:47 am ----------------------------------- ya all other browsers are good, just IE is the worst :D ----------------------------------- Mazer Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:27 am Re: Mozilla ----------------------------------- why can't i see the effects on ppl's names (MY OWN!) :evil: Because the people who created Mozilla predicted this whole "name effect" garbage and programmed the browsers to not allow it. Bless their souls. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:32 am ----------------------------------- how is IE the worst? Also, how is firefox better? I'm genuinly asking, by the way. I use IE and find it to be fine. It does everything I want. But I've never used firefox or even netscape much, so I don't have anything to compare it with. ----------------------------------- Mazer Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:45 am ----------------------------------- Off the top of my head, there's tabbed browsing, mouse gestures... the fact that it isn't microsoft somehow adds alot to the browser. 8) And the image blocking just owns. ----------------------------------- Amailer Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:46 am ----------------------------------- how is IE the worst? Also, how is firefox better? I'm genuinly asking, by the way. I use IE and find it to be fine. It does everything I want. But I've never used firefox or even netscape much, so I don't have anything to compare it with. *Cervantes, one of those who are being controled by M$s brian controler (AKA IE :lol: )* IE -> Good: NULL Mozilla/FireFox - Good: - Tabbed browsing - No pop ups - You can block images/sites - It's faster then IE - it even looks better then IE (can change skins also :D) - Has some cool plugins. - Easy way to search google, to check your spelling (gooogle and dict in the url bar) - so much more-- ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:47 am ----------------------------------- tony / mazer / amailer / anyone else who uses firefox, are you using firefox 0.8? I did a search on google for it and found [url=http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/]the firefox 0.8 product page. It says some stuff like it may not work well enough to be relied upon as your primary browser. It should not be relied upon for mission- critical tasks. Should it? Also, is that the one you guys are using? ----------------------------------- Amailer Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:51 am ----------------------------------- tony / mazer / amailer / anyone else who uses firefox, are you using firefox 0.8? I did a search on google for it and found hMm well, if IE tell's their users how good IE really is for doing work--- im pritty sure pretty it will give about 100 reasons why you should never use their product (btw, i don't think it's not that stable at all... i guess in case of an error they just put it there ;D) ----------------------------------- Paul Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:54 am ----------------------------------- I used firefox, but I couldn't see the glows and it seems to load the pages slower. The problem with IE on my slow computer is, that it seems to get slower as I use it for a long time and take up more RAM. ----------------------------------- Tony Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:04 am ----------------------------------- Cervantes - 0.8 is the latest version as of now. And I haven't experienced a problem with FireFox yet :D The reason they have that warning there is because FireFox is still in development stages (its releace being prior to 1.0) so they don't want you to rely on it for 'mission critical' tasks... I imagine that if you work for NASA and want to write a spaceprobe control app in a .Net language... mozilla doesn't want you to run it through their browser :lol: ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:25 pm ----------------------------------- cool! I'm off to download it then :) ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:58 pm ----------------------------------- oooOOOoOOoO I like it :D Love the tabs. Is there a hotkey for opening a link in a new tab? Like in IE (and in Firefox) if you hold shift and click the link it opens in a new window. Is there one like that for tabs? ----------------------------------- Tony Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:42 pm ----------------------------------- Is there one like that for tabs? hold down Ctrl then click ----------------------------------- apomb Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:25 pm ----------------------------------- COOL ... i was just wondering , cause i bought some glows and i didn't see them :cry: but for everything else , MOZILLA ROCKS!!! ----------------------------------- Amailer Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:40 pm ----------------------------------- MeH, really...what's so fun and amazing about glows? :? also, from now since compsci changed stuff-- shouldn't this be in the GD? ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:09 pm ----------------------------------- 'If your not sure where to post, GD or spam, put it in spam'. I suppose it could go in GD, its fine where it is :? Thanks tony :) ----------------------------------- Paul Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:24 pm ----------------------------------- I don't get whats so good about mozilla ----------------------------------- Cervantes Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:03 pm ----------------------------------- Firefox seems to load the pages REALLY fast for me (well, not really fast. but really fast compared to IE. It's still rather slow :'( ) because it actually uses those cookies. For somereason while I was using IE it wouldn't save cookies of every1's avatars so i'd be DLing them all the time. Also, the tabs are really nice. It saves you from having a ton of IE windows open,. Also, when you open a link in a new IE window, it takes a second to load IE again, which is doesn't with firefox. plus it looks cool. :D Cheers ----------------------------------- Mazer Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:35 pm ----------------------------------- The reason they have that warning there is because FireFox is still in development stages (its releace being prior to 1.0) so they don't want you to rely on it for 'mission critical' tasks... I imagine that if you work for NASA and want to write a spaceprobe control app in a .Net language... mozilla doesn't want you to run it through their browser :lol: Sorry, it's an older reply, but I just wanted to add that FireFox is still more reliable than IE. I have yet to have FireFox crash on me, and only rarely do I come across pages that won't load with it. ----------------------------------- Amailer Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:16 pm ----------------------------------- Mozilla has crashed once on me-- it was when loading a PDF file (it's not mozillas fault actually...crasses when i load it either way..) ----------------------------------- Mazer Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:23 pm ----------------------------------- I hate PDFs. At least, I hate Adobe Acrobat Reader. Are there any other PDF readers out there? And for that matter, any Adobe programs that don't take 10 seconds to load? Crap, I got off topic, sorry... ----------------------------------- jonos Sun Mar 14, 2004 10:19 pm ----------------------------------- i find that my pdfs don't load too slowly. i find them really good for some things, but adobe acrobat messes up a lot on me, like it won't let me print, but if i relaunch it it works, so... ----------------------------------- Maverick Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:28 pm ----------------------------------- The worst part about IE is the pop-ups. OH MY THE POP UPS. I think netscape bites the dirty ass ----------------------------------- jonos Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:41 am ----------------------------------- i don't like netscape because it looks stupid, as with mozilla regular i think i had that once, but firefox is a lot better. has anyone ever tried opera? iveheard that its pretty good. ----------------------------------- Paul Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:07 am ----------------------------------- The worst part about IE is the pop-ups. OH MY THE POP UPS. I think netscape bites the dirty ass Well maybe if you'd stop clicking on links that would give you alot of popups, like links on warezforum??? ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:55 am ----------------------------------- that's the good thing, click any links that are suppose to have pop ups, it will be blocked ;D cool ----------------------------------- Mazer Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:18 am ----------------------------------- Here it is in one simple pic: ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:23 am ----------------------------------- hehehe nice! :lol: ----------------------------------- Maverick Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:15 pm ----------------------------------- Well maybe if you'd stop clicking on links that would give you alot of popups, like links on warezforum??? lmao shhh keep that quiet you. ----------------------------------- the_short1 Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:31 pm ----------------------------------- i just switched from IE to firefox... it RIPS... it takes little to NO HD space... and having the tabs is HANDY and saves PC speed by not having to have multiple windows open.... and pop up stopper to boot.. i LIKE i like it A LOT... i think IE is going down.... unless IE does something BIg and changes... ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:08 pm ----------------------------------- IE is not going down, it went down when it came out ;D ----------------------------------- Mazer Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:22 pm ----------------------------------- The only thing IE has going for it is newbies and lazy/ignorant people. Because most families that buy computers these days don't actually know alot about computers, they end up getting something geared towards people like them. And that means pre-packaged with WindowsXP. And I remember hearing somewhere that WindowsXP was made by Microsoft who just happens to be the same people responsible for unleashing IE upon us. Turns out Microsoft has something against people not using their stuff. Like, I remember hearing about how their was code in the Windows OS way back that would make other browsers run like crap on it. ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:24 pm ----------------------------------- ya... you can't get windows updates with out IE :S ----------------------------------- Cervantes Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:40 pm ----------------------------------- Need IE 6 for 3DS Max to work too. Found that one out while trying to install, quit the download, got IE 6 and installed it, then tried to install 3dsmax again and only then did it tell me I needed Windows 2000 NT or Windows XP. Lousy win me... :evil: ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:54 pm ----------------------------------- I never knew that......works for me--- ----------------------------------- Cervantes Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:00 pm ----------------------------------- What version of windows do you have? Also, what version of 3dsmax ? ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:08 pm ----------------------------------- XP PRO, 6 ----------------------------------- the_short1 Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:29 pm ----------------------------------- yea... my one grief is.. i cant get rid of IE... i read up on firefox and it cant support Windows Media player 6.4 .... cuz i got win98... and i dont like the v 7,8,9 cuz they are slow... and sh1tty... so yea... taht and my step mom's site for Canada Post (where she works) has realy messed up frames in firefox... but i like the tabs and the image blocker,.,. and pop up stopper..... i already blocked like 10 pictures from pplz sigs or avatars.... i almost blocked one from my self tho (shaw)... the main one i wanted to do was homers... its just too big.. ----------------------------------- zylum Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:31 pm ----------------------------------- i tried mozilla and hated it... it's like a cheap rip off of netscape 7.1... because of that experience im reluctant to try firefox :( i still think netscape 7.1 is the best... no popups, high speed and it looks cool too.. -zylum ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:32 pm ----------------------------------- well you can unblock them anytime. Also sites that don't work on mozilla, it will not work on any other browser-- just IE :evil: ----------------------------------- Maverick Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:10 pm ----------------------------------- lately i havent been able to access compsci.ca on IE only Mozilla. Weird! ----------------------------------- the_short1 Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:17 pm ----------------------------------- yea..??? thats some weird stuff... i dont use netscape... i tried it once... like maybe v4... and i hated it... it didn't work good... firefox is much better and is not based on a title screen like netscape was.. Second Greifence: I had to install a new shockwave and flash... that means it takes even more HD space... bummer... ----------------------------------- Amailer Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:24 pm ----------------------------------- Just face it people, Mozilla/FireFoX is 10x better then IE ;D ----------------------------------- the_short1 Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:29 pm ----------------------------------- if you want SOLID compatability, and it working for all websites Go with IE if you want a pop-up stopper,download manager(pause / resume),picture blocker, and tabs instead of new windows (or both) go with FIREFOX 8 ----------------------------------- zylum Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:27 pm ----------------------------------- the previous versions of netscape were ugly.... but the latest version (7.1) is a must have in my oppinion, but i still havent tried firefox... ----------------------------------- Paul Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:28 pm ----------------------------------- woot! netscape, I remeber that being on all the computers like 7 years back. But that was in Australia.