----------------------------------- G-lant Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:47 pm C++/Turing?? ----------------------------------- Im learning turing now but do u think it was wise to learn turing first or should I have of learned C++ first.(or maby, Java, or C-Sharp??) Please post and help me out. ill learn the one u think I should next. :D ----------------------------------- shorthair Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:47 pm ----------------------------------- depends on how good you are at self teaching and reading , if you wanna start at the top then you can , its been done but you need dedication and you need to have a good bvackground with computers , so that what your doing sinks in , also with math aswell , turing is a really good stepping stone it really helped set my up fro BASIC, but its totally up to you and why is this thread in c++ submmissions ----------------------------------- hq78 Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:06 pm ----------------------------------- personally i think you should start with Turing because it kinda warms you up for the programming environment and is the easiest language to learn i think ----------------------------------- wtd Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:23 pm ----------------------------------- Neither is especially well-suited for learning. Turing: Is not free (legally) Is not easy to get Aside from this site, lacks any decent free reference material or support Is not cross-platform... if you want to communicate to fellow programmers using Mac OS X or Linux, you're out of luck Is proprietary... you have to trust Holt software to make improvements or fix bugs C++ Features a large and complex syntax Has a huge community, but many C++ programmers are not very good, so advice is often misleading requires compilation, slowing down development and testing Is often confused with C, preventing teaching of modern C++ techniques ----------------------------------- tupac Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:27 pm ----------------------------------- i agree with wtd, neither is good for learning. but if u like 2 read the help files turing provides, turing is a good start to entering the programming world. if ure not the kind of person that reads help files and seaches for help on the web (aside from this site) then turing is NOT a language for you. i think that the best language to start off with is the classic "turbo pascal" -- ITS FREE!, or even Visual Basic is a nice choice! BTW -- I LUV VB. ----------------------------------- Andy Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:14 am ----------------------------------- I hope you realize that this post is an year old, and what you just wrote will never be seen by the author ----------------------------------- Prince Pwn Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:21 pm Re: C++/Turing?? ----------------------------------- Wow not many people post in this thread o.O I like Turing because it has built in graphics which makes it quicker to make a game. I like C++ but you can't use graphics (other than dos stick figures) ----------------------------------- md Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:17 pm RE:C++/Turing?? ----------------------------------- Graphics are as much a hinderance for Turing as a boon. Writing games is a poor way of teaching programming. And you can easily do graphics work with C++, you simply need to use the appropriate libraries. Is it as simple as Turing? No way. Is it worse? Of course not! If you're using C/C++ it's not a stretch to expect you to know how to use libraries. ----------------------------------- ericfourfour Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:56 am RE:C++/Turing?? ----------------------------------- Fortunately you don't need graphics to make a good game. You do however, need a very good imagination and need to think "outside-the-box" if you want to make anything the least bit entertaining using only text. Text-based games are a great way to learn a new language without being frustrated with new graphics APIs. ----------------------------------- Null Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:20 pm RE:C++/Turing?? ----------------------------------- There's a lot of hype around people my age around C++. It's considered "leet". Ignore it. ----------------------------------- BenLi Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:45 pm Re: C++/Turing?? ----------------------------------- i think the main reason such a simple graphics library is attractive is because those new to programming will see instant gratification. This encourages beginner because they can "make cool stuff" ----------------------------------- Mazer Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:10 pm ----------------------------------- I hope you realize that this post is an year old, and what you just wrote will never be seen by the author Wow not many people post in this thread o.O Are you... oh, fuck it.