----------------------------------- Dan Sat Mar 15, 2003 9:09 pm COMPSCI.CA SHOP, What do you think? ----------------------------------- This news was posted by me to day: Compsci.ca has started a new program to give out e-mails and possible web hosting. What we are doing is for every post on the board that is not spam you will get 1 or 2 "bits". These "bits" will be a kind of money on the board where you can "buy" cool stuff like change the colour of your name on the board, change your rank name, and other fun stuff. But best of all if you get lots of "bits" you can buy e-mail forwarding and may be hosting at compsci.ca Right now I only have the effects shop up but we will be adding the ability to get e-mail forwding and hosting latter. Also you can donate your "bits" to other members on the board and the mods can give users "bits" for help poleop. There may also be some contest where you can win a lot of "bits" to do with as you wish. Now you may be saying this is all nice and good but how dose it help me to evil things and piss poleop off :twisted: ? Well we have something for you too, if you get enougth "bits" you can change other poleops rank name and the only way they will be able to get there rank name back by using there "bits". Note that it is there "RANK" name not there user name, the thing that says newbe, ect. Well let us know what you think of the idea and have fun. :lol: ----------------------------------- azndragon Sat Mar 15, 2003 10:40 pm ----------------------------------- Sounds like a good idea, one of my forums also has that mod, and although it's pretty basic right now, it has a lot of potential, so if you have access to the files or whatever, then I think it's a good idea. P.S. While on the subject of forums, I wanna know something; would you ever consider switching to the Invision Forums? They look really nice, I have experience dealing with it's features, as I am an admin of one, and it's a lot faster than this type of forum. It's free also, and easy to set up. Just wanna let you consider this idea, that's all. It's found at http://www.invisionboard.com Edit: Oh wow, you already added it, but I'm kinda unsure why my bits are at they are; doesn't seem to follow any formula. One serious problem though that I have experienced is that the admins (like me on my forum) tend to "cheat" their money, as easily seen by Dan's amount, and no offence or anything, it's kinda stupid, because it takes away the fun, because what's the point of trying to earn money, when you can max it instantly? Another thing is that since you're so rich, you can "outnumber" another user's money, and if you're really pissed off at a particular user, you can keep on changing their title. Just my 2 cents. Edit2: Another thing, I think the prices are WAY too steep here. I'm one of the higher posters, and I'm not even CLOSE to buying anything in the shop. The result will be that only the mods/admins will have access to the inventory, as they can edit their zeny to suit their needs, unless you edit the prices a little. ----------------------------------- Dan Sat Mar 15, 2003 10:55 pm humm ----------------------------------- ah, all good points. the mods points are so high right now becuse we/i am testing the shop and need lots of points to do so. will porbley set them back when tony looks at it. as for the step prices we will porbley lower them when we add the good stuff, ie. e-mail and such also i am going to be give poleole some extae points for posting subsioms and such. if you whont to know the formal is 1 point for a topic post and 2 for an re. as for the idea of siiching fourms i will look in too it but i have spent a lot of time moding this fourm to wrok the way i whont it to so i dont know how relay i whode whont to chage the fourm. ----------------------------------- Tony Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:02 pm ----------------------------------- ROFL. *laughs that Dan didnt notice that Tony changed his title this morning* looks around *laughs some more cuz now Dan doesnt have enough points to change it back* Edit: *bitches at Dan cuz he changed his title, and took all Tony's bits away to himself* :evil: ----------------------------------- azndragon Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:03 pm ----------------------------------- Hehe, now you're money is more fair. I have an idea. You should set a SUPER steep price, like 100k or something, to become a mod :lol: ----------------------------------- azndragon Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:03 pm ----------------------------------- ROFL. *laughs that Dan didnt notice that Tony changed his title this morning* looks around *laughs some more cuz now Dan doesnt have enough points to change it back* Edit: *bitches at Dan cuz he changed his title, and took all Tony's bits away to himself* :evil: I noticed that also. Thought it was a bug. Excuse the double posting. ----------------------------------- Tony Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:07 pm ----------------------------------- lets see... take myself for example - 500 posts = 1000 bits +1000 donated for help = 2000 bits +1000 for winning random contest = 3000 bits +500 for awesome submited game = 3500 bits +5000 for all the tutorials = 8500 bits +500 for taking points away from spammers :wink: = 9000 bits If there was a clone of myself as a user on this board... I'd give him 9000 bits... thats still 1000 bits short of 10K. I think we need to redesign point system ----------------------------------- Dan Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:09 pm ----------------------------------- dan saw, dan did not like :wink: any way if you saw i set the prices back a bite and gave the mods a fare amout of bits. also if you are woriide about some one chaging your title there is a bug in it so you can go to store then sell you title to have it go back to defute but you get no bits. so it relay is not a problem. P.S. :evil: ----------------------------------- azndragon Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:11 pm ----------------------------------- Holy crap, who gave me all the extra bits? *goes on a crazy shopping spree* Edit: Can we see all the effects, such as glow, shadow, etc, to see what we get for each username effect? And the username is azndragon, and the user title is Programmer for me, right? ----------------------------------- Dan Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:12 pm ----------------------------------- we will see how it gose and ajusted it if needed. ----------------------------------- Tony Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:13 pm ----------------------------------- selling stuff will just get rid of it, you dot get bits back :? I tried with title colors. anyway, we gotta give away more bits, cuz as I told you before... I value myself at almost 10K bits... thats 9.7 bytes :evil: I mean you're right that big prizes need to be hard to get... but still achivable... get on MSN, we'll talk there ----------------------------------- octopi Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:28 am ----------------------------------- You should make it so that the user can enter custom values for the colors, I looked at your html code, and for things like changing the text color, it just sends the server the html code for the color, so it wouldn't be hard for the user to enter his own color. (336699 = some cool blue color, etc..) ----------------------------------- Asok Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:32 am Re: COMPSCI.CA SHOP, What do you think? ----------------------------------- Now you may be saying this is all nice and good but how dose it help me to evil things and piss poleop off :twisted: ? Well we have something for you too, if you get enougth "bits" you can change other poleops rank name and the only way they will be able to get there rank name back by using there "bits". Note that it is there "RANK" name not there user name, the thing that says newbe, ect. This idea needs a little fine tuning. This cannot be used for griefing, changing someone elses rank should require a significant amount of bits, and the cost to change it back should cost significantly less than that. This is to avoid griefing. Also, certain ranks need to be protected/unchangable, particularly the mod ranks, we do not want newcomers to become confused in determining whether someone is actually part of the staff or not. Other than that, how are we going to moderate the bits? ie avoid someone's rank be changed to Mr.Asshole or something like that. ----------------------------------- octopi Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:36 am ----------------------------------- Another thing I noticed, was that when you click on the word 'Items' by someones name in a post, it takes you to your page, where is says there name near the top "Hacker Dan's Inventory" but it shows my number of bits in the bottom. Is that right? It also doesn't show your inventory at all, it just shows mine (which is empty, cause I have few bits) It would be cool to see what other own, I think thats what you intended, just looks like a small bug. ----------------------------------- Tony Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:48 am ----------------------------------- asok - you're right about the mod ranks... I think this idea need some editing so its not gonna backfire on us. as for mr.asshole... I already changed dan's title to that, but he changed it back :? I guess mods have to watch out for that, but I think that ultimatly we'll just get rid of that feature at all... too much confusion. I'll talk to dan, I got an idea of something that will replace it. ----------------------------------- Asok Sun Mar 16, 2003 1:48 am ----------------------------------- Another thing I suggest be removed is the "Change Username" feature. Anyone can see the confusion sprouting from a change of identity. Also, the mods need abilities to control this. A situation I do not want to see is people essentially spamming the boards or "bump" posts for bits. We need to balance prices a bit, basically come up with an equasion to have "cooler/more desirable" effects more expensive so there is something to look towards or to save bits for. Specifics though we'll need to discuss and test privately. ----------------------------------- azndragon Sun Mar 16, 2003 9:36 am ----------------------------------- Yep, a problem I always have is that some of my members just spam to get free money. Solution? Strict discipline, usually instant ban, because I do not tolerate it. :lol: May sound kinda harsh, but you don't have to necessarily ban them on the spot. There are lots of stupid people out there, and repeated warnings may not help, and that's when bans are necessary. You should make a bit penality system. If someone spams, deduct double the amount of bits they gained from that post. And if they start flaming people, swearing, requesting/providing links to illegal software, such as Turing and RM2K, then deduct a lot of bits for them. At least this will help control the members who decided to spam for free money, although I hope we won't see any. However, I hope to see a lot more members posting non-spam posts, and helping others out, because it couldn't hurt to have more help. "Certain" people *ahem*tony*ahem* help too much, and others should also follow his example if they have the knowledge :lol: Faster help will help everyone on the forum, so it could be a lot better :D ----------------------------------- Dan Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:50 pm ----------------------------------- well for poleop worde about poleop chaging there rank, it is not a problem becuse you can cahge it back to it's defulet for free. also you can not cahge the rank name to that of an exitsing rank, ie. "Hacker God". as for the chaging of the name, i will probley take that out. and the resion you dont see any items in poleops invotey is that they do not have any becuse we have not set up any 'items". note that efects are not "items". we are plaiing on puting in some good stuff soon that will be higher priiced. and any one who spams to get points will be dispalned. ----------------------------------- Tony Sun Mar 16, 2003 2:18 pm ----------------------------------- you know what would be cool? a sort of collecting game, where you can buy limited items and collect them :wink: and you could trade them later. And make sertain combinations of items have some cool effect on your user account. 8) About changing ranks. I think we should get rid of changing to custom rank and instead just give an ability to UPGRADE your rank. Such as instead of getting 100 posts for upgrade, you can say win a contest or submit a kickass program and get enough bits to upgrade right on the spot. ----------------------------------- azndragon Sun Mar 16, 2003 5:04 pm ----------------------------------- Damn, you took away the changing of member title? :( You know what you should do? When you decide to buy a certain username/title effect, you should be able to preview it before confirming your choice. ----------------------------------- Tony Sun Mar 16, 2003 5:07 pm ----------------------------------- we're thinking of selling items instead that will affect your user account. Such as a can of spraypaint to change the color of your username. Looking into programming aspect of that. ----------------------------------- Asok Sun Mar 16, 2003 5:09 pm ----------------------------------- Damn, you took away the changing of member title? :( We discovered that this ability to could be easily abused so it was removed. I like the preview idea because a lot of the time you don't know what the colour will actually look like. ----------------------------------- Dan Sun Mar 16, 2003 8:22 pm update ----------------------------------- Shop Update: we got ride of chage user name we got ride of chaging other users rank name we added some other stores: dan's compsci store: buy e-mail and web hosting at compsci.ca tonys shop: buy stuff that dose ablosltey nothing, but is fun to have :wink: Asoks shop not relay shure what this one will be about, but has a relay funny item in it :wink: also we messed with the prices a bite. ----------------------------------- Homer_simpson Mon Mar 31, 2003 5:19 pm ----------------------------------- I likes 8) :D :wink: