----------------------------------- Maverick Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:43 pm Trash Turing! ----------------------------------- I find it quite stupid that so many schools teach Turing when it is clearly ass. It is just such a crappy programming language. I think that Programming classes should start with a good programming language like C++ or Java, which are actual programs you can use in real life if you go onto CompSci jobs. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:03 pm ----------------------------------- turing all the way!! turing is taught in schools not because it is powerful but because it is a good programming language to learn first. That is, its fairly simple. that's your problem, but its not a problem for gr 9's :P there is a rumor at my school that we are going to switch from learning Turing to learning java. that would be sweet, but I think only the gr 11 and up compsci courses should learn java. ----------------------------------- shorthair Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:05 pm ----------------------------------- i hate to flame you but , any school that would teach c++ first in theade nine i think would be retarded ,why would you torture the students , and they would never be able to find there errors , do you even knowhow to code in c++ , becuase wit han attitude like that i dont think you undestand what turing is for , is says at holtsoft , " This is not a commercial laguages " and i s implemented for learning puproses only ----------------------------------- shorthair Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:07 pm ----------------------------------- there are over 100+ programming languages there , all youhave done is listed some of the few that are most used , i use BASIC ( BLitz to be exact ) , how can you put turing against VB , thats just totally unfair comparison :shock: :shock: but if i were to vote it would be for BASIC ----------------------------------- Cervantes Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:17 pm ----------------------------------- the poll is fine.. if you don't think that the best is up there don't vote for one and say what you think is best... or either vote for the best one up there but say what you think is really the best. ----------------------------------- Maverick Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:59 pm ----------------------------------- Visual Basic is still a language of sorts. W/e VB kicks ass. ----------------------------------- Maverick Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:01 pm ----------------------------------- Hahaha who added PHP? Thanx though I forgot about it. ----------------------------------- Amailer Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:09 pm ----------------------------------- :roll: GO PHP! ----------------------------------- Maverick Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:12 pm ----------------------------------- VB beats PHP any day. ----------------------------------- Mazer Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:31 pm ----------------------------------- I don't think it makes any sense to even compare them. VB is for making applications, PHP is for web development. ----------------------------------- Cervantes Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:37 pm ----------------------------------- wait!! I change my vote to unix!! :P :P ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:45 pm ----------------------------------- uhhh vb is cheap... it spell checks for you... if u forget a capital, it'll put it on for u ----------------------------------- Amailer Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:54 pm ----------------------------------- VB is also CHEAP for the web :D (you can make sites and etc with VB or something rit?) ----------------------------------- Maverick Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:20 pm ----------------------------------- uhhh vb is cheap... it spell checks for you... if u forget a capital, it'll put it on for u Isn't that good? ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:21 pm ----------------------------------- yes... for those who cant type ----------------------------------- Maverick Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:22 pm ----------------------------------- But still even if you forget it does it for you. How is this bad in any way? ----------------------------------- Amailer Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:23 pm ----------------------------------- VB is sad and a BS language..i tried it for a week i think :D ----------------------------------- Maverick Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:25 pm ----------------------------------- I like it cause you can integrate software and hardware in in i.e LED's and stuff. It also makes sense unlike damn turing. ----------------------------------- DanShadow Fri Jan 23, 2004 10:13 am ----------------------------------- Maverick...(sorry to flame) but your an absolu te fool. I have wanted to be a programmer ever since I started looking beyond programs. (which was 3 years ago). I started out by learning HTML....very easy. I moved on to VB, it sucked and was to cheap so I went on to Java. I understood absolutely nothing, then moved to Cpp...which also tau ght me nothing. I then learned C...but could only grasp enough concept of it to create a calculator. Learning good programming languages (cpp, java) at th e start will not help you on your way to becoming a programmer. You MUST learn the basics of programming, which is why Turing is introdu ced in your first year of Compu ter Science. In my school, CompSci starts in grade 11...my teacher taught Turing, and then tried to transfer to Java....but nobody understood any thing...I barely understood it. So he kept with Turing. Turing is a language similar to pascal, and english...which makes it very easy to code because its like english. put "Hello World" After 1 semester of Turing...I mastered all that had been taught, plus much more. Next year, we are being taught Java, becau se that is wh at th e teacher decided to learn last summer. (lol) A better idea is instead of java, teach Cpp. Lets take a look at the difference: Turing: put "Hello World" Cpp: cout