----------------------------------- speedk Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:40 pm Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- What is it you are trying to achieve? Can anyone help me make a Turing pixel animation that is 15-30 seconds long? What is the problem you are having? I need someone to willingly contribute on making a pixel animation Please tell me if anyone enjoys doing these kinds of things. It may give you extra practice ----------------------------------- Wakening Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:41 pm RE:Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- What kind of contributions/help are you looking for exactly? Are you in need of knowing how to make animations or just need someone to do it themselves? ----------------------------------- Tony Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:50 pm RE:Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- That's better than that previous ban-inducing spamming attempt. Still, that's not what anyone here does (do you enjoy doing other people's assignments, perhaps in some different subject? What kind of skills/knowledge do you suppose other people pick up, when you do the work?) But if you show some attempt, we will help you be better and help you figure out the problems you'll encounter. Preemptively, here are some points to get you started: - an animation is a series of pictures, or "frames". You can think of it as a movie reel, where each frame is a still shot, but as it displays them one after another, they appear in an animation - you want to animate at perhaps 24 Frames Per Second (FPS), which is common for TV/film/animation. This means that you'd need a total of 24 * 15 = 360 pictures to produce 15 seconds of animation. - drawing it all by hand is a pain, but procedures with arguments and for-loops will make it all much easier - similar to how Draw.Oval takes arguments to let you draw a circle at any location of the screen, a procedure can group together multiple primitive shapes, so that you can draw a complex figure anywhere on the screen, with a single line of code (after the procedure has been setup) - if you want to slide something across, you can increment the positions with a for-loop. You'd have to figure out the relationship between positions and frame-number that will be counted by the loop, but once that's done, the loop will generate all of the frames. ----------------------------------- speedk Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:25 pm Re: Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- So Far I got this much code done. Alright Tony, can you do me atleast this favor. Can you make a nice symbol of 'Wi-Fi'? Thats not doing the assignment, it's just helping View.Set ("offscreenonly") type SnowType : record X, Y, Spd, Size : int end record var Snow : array 1 .. 100 of SnowType for rep : 1 .. 100 Snow (rep).X := Rand.Int (15, 850) Snow (rep).Y := Rand.Int (15, 550) Snow (rep).Spd := Rand.Int (1, 3) Snow (rep).Size := Snow (rep).Spd end for loop for rep : 1 .. 100 Snow (rep).Y -= Snow (rep).Spd if Snow (rep).Y < Snow (rep).Size then Snow (rep).Y := Rand.Int (475, 575) end if drawfilloval (Snow (rep).X, Snow (rep).Y, Snow (rep).Size, Snow (rep).Size, white) end for View.Update cls var font1, font2, font3, picID, picid, FLOOR, count, a, r, z, f : int := 0 % variables var y : int := 370 % Variable with different value than 0 var Colour : int := 1 font1 := Font.New ("Arial:55:bold") % it creates font style 1 with font type serif, size 120, bold font2 := Font.New ("Verdana:50:bold,italic") % creates font style 2 with font type Nerdana, size 40, bold and italic setscreen ("graphics:800;600") % it sets the output screen to grapics 800 by 600 colourback (255) % changes the background colour to a yellowish shade cls Draw.FillBox (0,600,75,0,blue) Draw.FillBox (0,75,800,0,green) Draw.FillBox (0,600,800,525,yellow) Draw.FillBox (715,600,800,0,red) % First fonts Font.Draw ("Why DO We Need", 90, 460, font1, white) % Puts wifi on the screen with font1 style Font.Draw ("Wi-Fi in School?", 90, 360, font2, white) Draw.FillOval (400,35,25,25, black) end loop ----------------------------------- speedk Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:43 pm Re: Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- i have another problem, when i try to add this code : % Wifi Symbol Draw.ThickLine (400, 20, 400, 190, 10, white) Draw.FillOval (400, 195, 20, 20, white) loop r := r + 10 % Makes wifi signal go bigger Draw.Arc (385 - r, 195, r + 20, r + 20, 90, 270, white) Draw.Arc (415 + r, 195, r + 20, r + 20, 270, 90, white) delay (100) exit when r = 100 end loop then alll the snow slows down, and messes up, i don't know how to include that loop with the other one without messing it up. try adding that code and see what happens, tell me how to fix it ----------------------------------- Dreadnought Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:43 pm Re: Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- loop r := r + 10 % Makes wifi signal go bigger Draw.Arc (385 - r, 195, r + 20, r + 20, 90, 270, white) Draw.Arc (415 + r, 195, r + 20, r + 20, 270, 90, white) delay (100) exit when r = 100 end loop This loop runs 10 times, so each line will be run 10 times before anything else happens. Now if we put this inside another loop, what happens? Well, each time the outer loop runs, the inner loop will run 10 times. This wouldn't really be a problem if it wasn't for one of the lines in this inner loop. Can you guess which one? ----------------------------------- speedk Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:15 pm Re: Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- I've been trying to fin out which, can't seem to know. Which line is causing this problem? ----------------------------------- Dreadnought Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:37 pm Re: Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- What happens when you run delay(100) 10 times? ----------------------------------- speedk Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:17 pm Re: Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- Yeah but that is needed for the wi-fi signals to expand, at a tenth of a second it will expand once, how do i make it so that the snow can fall while the signals expand ----------------------------------- Tony Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:43 pm RE:Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- As the snow is falling for 100ms, count the time without blocking, then draw the wifi signal. Repeat. ----------------------------------- speedk Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:34 pm Re: Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- can you re write the code so that it works? ----------------------------------- Tony Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:48 pm RE:Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- I'm not going to do that. ----------------------------------- Aange10 Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:58 pm RE:Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- Also plz don't post asking people to do your schoolwork for you, we will help but we will not do your projects for you. Off Topic: Tony, in the terms of use you have us agree to abide by the rules posted at broken and redirects to compsci's home page. Anyways I had a nice big post ready about how they agreed in the ToU not to ask for this kind of help, and that would be the answer they got, but considering the rules for this thread are more of heavy suggestions than an agreement, I couldn't link it to the ToU D:. ----------------------------------- Tony Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:24 pm RE:Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- That isn't so much forum-specific rules, as extra helpful links and guidance. But yes, the forums are founded on the idea of assisting with learning, not with avoiding work. ----------------------------------- Dreadnought Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:51 pm Re: Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- @speedk I suggest you read the documentation about [url=http://compsci.ca/holtsoft/doc/time_elapsed.html]Time.Elapsed, that will help you count the time without delaying the program like Tony was talking about. ----------------------------------- Velocity Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:23 am RE:Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- and your snow will only slow down because of two reasons... first is as dreadnought stated, because you got the delay in there so the program waits this many second everytime it goes through the loop. secondly if you added it in after the view update it will glitch and will recognize the snow but wont draw it even if it is right after your last drawing... it will just make it stall and therefore lag/slow down the snow. ----------------------------------- Velocity Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:57 pm RE:Turing Pixel Animation HELP NEEDED ----------------------------------- use time.elapsed and make an int variable assign the variable to time.elapsed put ''time : '' (variable / 1000) and you willl get real life seconds.