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Aange10
Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:31 pm

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On the home page there is a "Recent Discussions" box. The dots are different colors, for all-too-arcane reasons.

You guys need to add a few lines of code and get a Legend for it. When i first joined it was a nuisance I didn't know, and a friend of mine also pointed it out.

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Tony
Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:33 pm

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post a screenshot.

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Aange10
Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:42 pm

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http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=00952697003874385449

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Tony
Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:47 pm

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There's a grand total of 2 possible colours.

Red -- threads with posts that you have not read
Black -- threads with posts that you have already read

Also -- http://imgur.com/

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Raknarg
Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:47 pm

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I thought it was rather simple. Red means its unread, black is read.

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Aange10
Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:51 pm

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On the home page there is a "Recent Discussions" box. The dots are different colors, for all-too-arcane reasons.

You guys need to add a few lines of code and get a Legend for it. When i first joined it was a nuisance I didn't know, and a friend of mine also pointed it out.



Moreover


... When i first joined it was a nuisance I didn't know, and a friend of mine also pointed it out.


The sentence was past tense. I've figured it out. But it's annoying, and I was simply recommending a fix. Convenience is one of the top things consumers look for anyhow.

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ProgrammingFun
Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:03 pm

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The sentence was past tense. I've figured it out. But it's annoying, and I was simply recommending a fix. Convenience is one of the top things consumers look for anyhow.I would imagine that anyone with basic knowledge of forums would be able to distinguish (and even those who don't) without much difficulty.
Why would we need a legend? It's pretty self-explanatory...

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Aange10
Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:07 pm

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Why would we need a legend?




Convenience is one of the top things consumers look for anyhow.


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I would imagine that anyone with basic knowledge of forums would be able to distinguish (and even those who don't) without much difficulty





 When i first joined it was a nuisance I didn't know, and a friend of mine also


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ProgrammingFun
Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:17 pm

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And the point is that you learnt quickly (hopefully).
I don't call it convenience, I would call it unnecessary clutter.

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Aange10
Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:28 pm

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I don't call it convenience, I would call it unnecessary clutter.


That would depend on how it was implemented, and also would be an opinion [as all aesthetics are].

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Zren
Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:34 pm

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I totally thought this thread was going to be about some old user who had legendary status. Also, this idea is silly. a:visited is something you see everywhere on the web.

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ProgrammingFun
Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:35 pm

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That would depend on how it was implemented, and also would be an opinion 
Fair enough...though I still think that a Computer Science Forum would not require that.

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Aange10
Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:52 pm

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'Tis only a suggestion

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ProgrammingFun
Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:07 pm

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I totally thought this thread was going to be about some old user who had legendary status. Also, this idea is silly. a:visited is something you see everywhere on the web.I was thinking the same thing :lol: ...[url=http://wiki.compsci.ca/index.php?title=Hacker_Dan#Hacker_Dan_the_Character]though the oldest user is Dan and he already has a legend along with Tony.

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RandomLetters
Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:09 pm

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There's a grand total of 2 possible colours.

Red -- threads with posts that you have not read
Black -- threads with posts that you have already read

Also -- http://imgur.com/

How come the unread posts are yellow for me?

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ProgrammingFun
Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:16 pm

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The ones on the Recent Discussions are red while the ones in the forum are golden-brownish.

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rdrake
Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:30 pm

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I totally thought this thread was going to be about some old user who had legendary status. Also, this idea is silly. a:visited is something you see everywhere on the web.This.

I thought it was rather simple. Red means its unread, black is read.This.

How come the unread posts are yellow for me?Your monitor requires calibration.

The red is supposed to draw your eyes towards the unread posts.  The read posts are black and boring.  Since you noticed it, I'd say that it did its job, no?

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Dan
Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:49 am

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CompSci.ca's UI is allready some what bloated and adding a legend is proably only going to make it wrose.

Also i would have to side with thoes that say changing the color of a link once read should be intuitive as it is used in most websites and part of the css standard. Furthermore, even for users that do not understand why the color changes their is no loss in functionality of the site. You don't have to understand why the dot is red to click on it and view the topic.

However i am thankful for the suggestion and it is likely that other parts of the site could be better labeled for the less internet savvy.

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mirhagk
Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:55 am

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While this topic is up in the air, I'd like to point out that I experience a bug now and then where when I refresh the page, all the topics somehow get read or something, and everything goes unread. This is annoying as I then have to manually check any threads I am active in.

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Dan
Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:53 am

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Read topics are stored in your CompSci.ca cookie, if you delete it or somthing goes wrong with it you can get such results.

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mirhagk
Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:47 pm

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Okay well how does that work on a new computer? Cuz when I use my iPod I know it automatically lists everything as read, but then when I go back to my laptop they are all still read.

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DemonWasp
Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:24 pm

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There's clearly some kind of bug with that detection too -- I frequently see topics as "unread" and find that the "unread comment" most recent in the thread is one I've already seen. I've also seen the "recent topics" window look like:

read
unread
unread
unread
unread
read
unread

But every time I come here, just open every unread thread in a new tab. I can't think of a way that I would read the most recent thread, but not the other threads...and in fact, when I visit them, I've already read them, but that information didn't get recorded.

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Tony
Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:31 pm

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my guess -- some race condition between tabs, all trying to set a new set of values in the cookie.

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DemonWasp
Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:50 pm

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Tony: that would make sense, except that I could swear that different computers kept track of my read/unread status correctly (that is, I read article A on computer X, and it shows up as read on computer Y as well, so long as I'm logged in). Are you sure these markers never get stored on the server -- in a session variable or login variable?

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Dan
Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:56 pm

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Not 100% sure, but when i clear out my cookies everything goes read. It is also possible that your CompSci.ca cookie maybe corrupted in some way.

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Tony
Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:00 pm

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I can't be sure of anything that's going on at the back end.

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mirhagk
Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:16 pm

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When the cookie is deleted shouldn't the topics default to unread? Like doesn't it store the read topics in the cookie, so wouldn't no cookie mean no read topics? As if you were a completely new user.

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Dan
Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:18 pm

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When the cookie is deleted shouldn't the topics default to unread? Like doesn't it store the read topics in the cookie, so wouldn't no cookie mean no read topics? As if you were a completely new user.

It could go either way. Having all the topics become unread would be a bit more annoying as you would have to set them to read, having them go read means that you only have to worry about new topics or ones that you may have missed.

I have not looked at the code for it in a very long time so i don't rember how it works, but my gueses is that the cookie just stores topics you have read since the start of the session not all time.

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mirhagk
Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:59 am

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Yeah but sometimes if I've read every topic, then the glitch happens I completely miss things, at least if they all go unread, I know that the glitch happened.
