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RapidCP

Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:51 am


Lol Usa!

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LOL, read the last paragraph in the Kentucky Constitution Section 145 Rights to vote.

http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/legresou/constitu/145.htm


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Turing_Gamer

Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:24 am


Re: Lol Usa!

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...but the following persons are excepted and shall not have the right to vote. 

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3. Idiots and insane persons.

[schild=4 fontcolor=8B0000 shadowcolor=C0C0C0 shieldshadow=1]FAIL!!! ^_^[/schild]


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SNIPERDUDE

Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:05 am


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True.  If you are diagnosed as such by a medical professional, you lose your right to vote until stated otherwise.


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USEC_OFFICER

Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:49 am


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So if I was a medical professional, I could say that people were idiots and (perhaps) get away with it?

"I'm sorry sir, but according to the tests, you are actually an idiot."


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petree08

Sat May 01, 2010 10:58 am


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Idiot is kind of an interesting word in it's history.

It used to be the technical term for mentally challenged or mentally disabled.

The word started to be used as an insult to relate people doing stupid things to being mentally challenged.  Eventually idiot was being used more to describe stupidity so other words became used as the technical term of mentally challenged. The word retard only really came about because people used the previous term idiot as an insult, now that retard is considered an insult we use mentally challenged or disabled.


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petree08

Sat May 01, 2010 10:59 am


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but the point I was trying to make was that when that bill was written the word Idiot was probably being used to say mentally disabled.


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USEC_OFFICER

Sat May 01, 2010 2:34 pm


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They why didn't they say mentally disabled?


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petree08

Sat May 01, 2010 7:40 pm


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because the bill was written back when idiot was used that way.


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USEC_OFFICER

Sun May 02, 2010 3:20 pm


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Oh, I though this was fairly recent. Never mind.


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Turing_Gamer

Mon May 03, 2010 11:39 am


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AHH I hate history. But I guess that is a good reason since idiots can be told to vote for someone AND THEY WOULD DO IT. Idiots...


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DemonWasp

Mon May 03, 2010 1:23 pm


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Historically, a lot of laws like this were used to oppress minorities. Minority citizens would be deemed "idiots" or "insane" and denied their right to vote. Similar things have happened with sterilization laws, too.


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billy10388

Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:23 am


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LOL, read the last paragraph in the Kentucky Constitution Section 145 Rights to vote.


Such a very amazing link!


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Nick

Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:17 am


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Text as Ratified on: November 8, 1955.
History: 1955 amendment was proposed by 1954 Ky. Acts ch. 2, sec. 1; original version ratified August 3, 1891, and revised September 28, 1891. 

most likely idiot == mentally disabled


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Cezna

Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:22 pm


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Text as Ratified on: November 8, 1955.
History: 1955 amendment was proposed by 1954 Ky. Acts ch. 2, sec. 1; original version ratified August 3, 1891, and revised September 28, 1891. 

most likely idiot == mentally disabled

Idiot is kind of an interesting word in it's history.

It used to be the technical term for mentally challenged or mentally disabled.

The word started to be used as an insult to relate people doing stupid things to being mentally challenged.  Eventually idiot was being used more to describe stupidity so other words became used as the technical term of mentally challenged. The word retard only really came about because people used the previous term idiot as an insult, now that retard is considered an insult we use mentally challenged or disabled.


It does mean mentally disabled.
I had heard that before, but never knew mentally disabled and insane people were not allowed to vote (it makes sense though, I geuss).

Is this law common across other states and countries? What about Canada?

*** (Anybody who can answer last two questions gets cake!) ***


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Tony

Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:00 pm


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Ontario:

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90e06_e.htm#BK40

Disqualifications are referenced in other places... Time for research.


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chrisbrown

Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:03 pm


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#United_States_law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffrage#History_of_suffrage_around_the_world

1988 - Supreme Court of Canada rules mentally ill patients have the right to vote.

2002 - Prisoners given the right to vote in the riding in which they received their conviction. All adult Canadians except the Chief and Deputy Returning Officers can now vote in Canada
I'll be at your house tomorrow to collect my cake.  :P


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Tony

Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:23 pm


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London, Ontario, 2006 (so... municipal elections)

http://www.electioncoverage.ca/faq.php#How_do_I_know_I%E2%80%99m_prohibited_by_law_from_voting_


You are prohibited form voting on voting day if you are:

    * a person serving a sentence of imprisonment in a penal or correctional institution
    * a corporation
    * a person acting as executor or trustee or in another representative capacity, except as a voting proxy
    * a person convicted of a corrupt practice for an election held within 5 years of voting day.



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Cezna

Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:55 pm


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#United_States_law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffrage#History_of_suffrage_around_the_world

1988 - Supreme Court of Canada rules mentally ill patients have the right to vote.

2002 - Prisoners given the right to vote in the riding in which they received their conviction. All adult Canadians except the Chief and Deputy Returning Officers can now vote in Canada
I'll be at your house tomorrow to collect my cake.  :P

Sorry, but:

http://halflife.neoseeker.com/w/i/halflife/7/75/The_cake_is_a_lie.jpg

** (Damn, forgot you can't upload images in off topic, so here is a link) **


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Dan

Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:10 pm


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London, Ontario, 2006 (so... municipal elections)


I wonder if this would stand up if challenged as the Supreme Court of Canada has ruled agisnted that kind of law in Sauve v. Canada (2002).

Apparently disallowing people to vote on such grounds violates section 3 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.


Sauve v. Canada:

http://csc.lexum.umontreal.ca/en/2002/2002scc68/2002scc68.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauv%C3%A9_v._Canada_%28Chief_Electoral_Officer%29


Section 3 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms:

http://www.efc.ca/pages/law/charter/charter.text.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_Three_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms




DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS OF CITIZENS.

3. Every citizen of Canada has the right to vote in an election of members of the House of Commons or of a legislative assembly and to be qualified for membership therein.



Section 33 disallows this section to be overridden by Parliament or a legislative assembly. So i would think this means that any Canadian of age can vote in an election.

