----------------------------------- AsianSensation Fri Nov 14, 2003 4:59 pm DirectX vs OpenGl ----------------------------------- I was in a discussion with one of my friend today, he said that openGL is getting outdated and obsolete, I should try to learn DirectX instead. Well, what's you guy's opinion? If I was to start graphics, what should I learn to program in? ----------------------------------- Catalyst Fri Nov 14, 2003 5:57 pm ----------------------------------- opengl in my opinion it is better than directx the only thing that may be obsolete about ogl (just for your info doom3 uses ogl) is the functional interface, which in my opinoin, doesnt matter much considering its an api ogl pros- cross platform, simple continuoes interface, powerful cons-no support libraries,extension mechanism, controlled by group dx pros-support lib (DX utilities), new features directly built-in,powerful cons-windows only, controlled only my microsoft ----------------------------------- Homer_simpson Sat Nov 15, 2003 3:14 pm ----------------------------------- I remember i read somewhere that opengl works faster on the old graphic cards but directx is more compatible with the new ones... but i still think it's a matter of personal choice and what u wanna use it for... here's a comparison table.... Feature OpenGL 1.2 Core Direct3D 7 Direct3D 8 Operating System Support Windows (9x, NT, 2000), MacOS, BeOS, *nix, others Windows (9x, 2000, CE) [12] Windows (9x, 2000) [12] API Definition Control OpenGL ARB Microsoft Microsoft API Specification OpenGL Specification [10] SDK/DDK Documentation and DDK Reference SDK Documentation API Mechanism includes and libraries COM COM Software Emulation of Unaccelerated Features [4] Yes No No [11] Extension Mechanism [5] Yes No Yes Source Implementation Available [6] Yes Yes No Fixed-Function Vertex Blending No Yes Yes Programmable Vertex Blending No No Yes Parametric Curve Primitives Yes No Yes Parametric Surface Primitives Yes No Yes Hierarchical Display Lists Yes No [8] No [8] Two-sided Lighting Yes No [1] No [1] Point Size Rendering Attributes [9] Yes No Yes Line Width Rendering Attributes [9] Yes No No Programmable Pixel Shading No [14] No Yes Triadic Texture Blending Operations No No Yes Cube Environment Mapping No Yes Yes Volume Textures Yes No Yes Multitexture Cascade No [13] Yes Yes Texture Temporary Result Register No No Yes Mirror Texture Addressing No Yes Yes Texture "Wrapping" No Yes Yes Range-Based Fog No Yes Yes Bump Mapping No Yes Yes Modulate 2X Texture Blend No Yes Yes Modulate 4X Texture Blend No Yes Yes Add Signed Texture Blend No Yes Yes Hardware Independent Z Buffer Access Yes No [2] No [2] Full-Screen Antialiasing Yes Yes Yes Motion Blur Yes No Yes Depth of Field Yes No Yes Accumulation Buffers Yes No No [7] Picking Support Yes No [3] No [3] Multiple Monitor Support No Yes Yes Stereo Rendering Yes Yes No ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Sat Nov 15, 2003 9:17 pm ----------------------------------- cool, thanks for the help, I think I will try to program with OpenGL. Now my friend also mentioned another point, he said that since Direct3D will be alot easier to program in and easier to understand, he suggested that I should learn how to program in Direct3D 9 to start, and I haven't been able to find much information on that (maybe I'm just not looking hard enough?) so Direct3D 9, or OpenGL? ----------------------------------- rizzix Sat Nov 15, 2003 9:19 pm ----------------------------------- i'd go for opengl.. 1) it's open heh. so there are more ppl working on it than u think :) 2) it's been ported to more platforms then DirectX, and i can bet on that :P ----------------------------------- Andy Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:47 pm ----------------------------------- meng where did u get all these friends from? the last time i checked it was only jimmy, and hes just wacked ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:06 pm ----------------------------------- dont be deceived andy.. when he says 'friend' he actually means some girl (guy?) in the romance chat at yahoo ----------------------------------- Andy Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:07 pm ----------------------------------- LOL... yahoo? oh yea msn costs money now... damn those greedy ms ppl ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:33 pm ----------------------------------- you hurt my feelings, I will now cry in a little corner.... | | | | | | | | | /----------------- / ^ / | / | / Corner / / *Meng proceeds to cry in corner / ----------------------------------- Andy Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:47 pm ----------------------------------- meng.. the cyberworld is round... there is no coners... and lol you and your txt art... wasting so much time in compsci to draw your diagrams on vc ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:42 pm ----------------------------------- | | | | | | | | | /----------------- / ^ / | / | / Corner / / *Meng proceeds to cry in corner / you must really have no life to take time to do that ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:49 pm ----------------------------------- :P you leave my ASCII art alone. I must fulfill my role in being Chinesy, and if I can't draw real art (cuz all oriental people should be able to draw, play piano, play badminton, etc, etc), then I must be able to draw cyber art. I wonder if I can get an art credit in ASCII........ ----------------------------------- Andy Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:32 pm ----------------------------------- lol credit in ascii... azn i'm pretty sure there are better ascii artists out there... and you cant be declared chinesey until you can do ALL of those things... lol