----------------------------------- monkey Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:29 am Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- The tuition cost per term for first-year computer science co-op at Waterloo (2008-9): $ 4047 The tuition cost per term for first-year Mathematics co-op at Waterloo (2008-9): $ 2408 The difference is $ 1639 per term and therefore $1639*2= $3278 for the first year Now the strange part is that first-year computer science students take the EXACT same courses as first-year mathematics students. Why is there a large difference in the tuition we pay in the first year? Note: Mathematics could include Applied mathematics, Acturial science, C and O, pure math and financial math (all of which declare their majors in the second year) ----------------------------------- Brightguy Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:51 am Re: Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- CS is a deregulated program, so basically Waterloo can charge what it wants. This also happens in CompMath. I asked the CM advisor about this he said it was just politics. ----------------------------------- Prabhakar Ragde Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:57 am RE:Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- Politics it is. CS tuition was deregulated and made differentially high at the height of the dot-com boom, and the administration is reluctant to give up the cash cow even though demand has gone way down and it arguably acts as a deterrent for these programs. The School of CS has no say in the matter. ----------------------------------- octopi Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:05 am Re: Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- What's to stop someone from registering in Math first year, and then transferring over second year? If you keep your marks sufficiently high, I can't foresee any problems (but I'm also not a Waterloo student, so they may have different policies regarding changing majors) ----------------------------------- Tony Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:40 am Re: Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- What's to stop someone from registering in Math first year, and then transferring over second year? The odd chance that the transfer doesn't go smoothly. It took me 2 years to change my majors, but it was from a different faculty and I wasn't in the best academic (although in non-marks matter) standing. Doing first year Math, one is already in the right faculty and taking all the right courses. If one is confident in their marks and doesn't mind some extra administrative hassle, there's $3K to be saved. ----------------------------------- monkey Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:57 pm Re: RE:Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- CS tuition was deregulated and made differentially high at the height of the dot-com boom Why did this happen? ----------------------------------- endless Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:10 pm Re: RE:Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- CS tuition was deregulated and made differentially high at the height of the dot-com boom Why did this happen? supply and demand? ----------------------------------- monkey Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:27 pm Re: RE:Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- CS tuition was deregulated and made differentially high at the height of the dot-com boom Why did this happen? supply and demand? Yea I guess. It's a shame it doesn't work both ways i.e. when the dot com bubble burst, they didn't lower tuition :( ----------------------------------- Tony Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:50 pm RE:Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- They would lower it only if the demand was to fall below the capacity. As long as Waterloo fills all their CS seats, there's no incentive to drop the prices. ----------------------------------- monkey Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:10 pm Re: RE:Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- They would lower it only if the demand was to fall below the capacity. As long as Waterloo fills all their CS seats, there's no incentive to drop the prices. Right, that makes sense. I should take an economics course so I don't seem like such an idiot when talking about these things. lol ----------------------------------- randint Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:16 pm Re: Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- Thread revival: Oh wow, that was 15 years ago? That is partially why I am not in CS :) ----------------------------------- crossley7 Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:37 pm RE:Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- 5 years, not 15. And yeah it is nasty. Something I wasn't 100% aware when I entered. Though I doubt I would have gone the other way anyway with the risk of losing co-op or something along those lines. ----------------------------------- Tony Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:49 am Re: Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- Well since we are updating the thread anyway... The tuition cost per term for first-year computer science co-op at Waterloo (2008-9): $ 4047 The co-op fees seem to be on a separate schedule, but a 2012-13 equivalent seems to be along the lines of $5620. Slightly cheaper than Engineering, way more than any other program. ----------------------------------- Nathan4102 Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:51 am RE:Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- Do you pay $5620 per term of classes only? Or are your co-op terms included in this? ----------------------------------- DemonWasp Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:49 am RE:Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- You pay tuition only in terms where you attend classes (ie not co-op terms). However, co-op students pay a hefty fee with their tuition to fund the co-op program (about $1000/term, included in the $5620 amount above). ----------------------------------- randint Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:30 pm Re: RE:Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- 5 years, not 15. And yeah it is nasty. Something I wasn't 100% aware when I entered. Though I doubt I would have gone the other way anyway with the risk of losing co-op or something along those lines. Well, I said 15 because it started during the 90s, and the dot-com-bubble burst in 2000. ----------------------------------- crossley7 Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:09 pm Re: RE:Computer science tuition at Waterloo ----------------------------------- You pay tuition only in terms where you attend classes (ie not co-op terms). However, co-op students pay a hefty fee with their tuition to fund the co-op program (about $1000/term, included in the $5620 amount above). From what I recall from my last term, it is 5300 base tuition per term of CS (This was first year) + approx 800 for the coop and another 200-300 for other various incidental fees that get tagged on. It comes out to around 6500 per term in first year + residence fees.