----------------------------------- Horus Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:17 am Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8155795.stm wow just find this. Apple's move is just so mean. I'm wondering if this is even legal. If so why don't windows just block itune, that way only people with mac computer will buy iphone/itouch. ----------------------------------- Euphoracle Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:32 am RE:Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- There is a very nice rule in business that companies should not cross. Do not restrict cross-company products or you will quickly lose your own customers to another company who doesn't have similar restrictions. Q: How many people would use intel CPUs if they decided to block nvidia cards from being recognized on an x86 motherboard? A: Less. Q: How many people would use nvidia cards if they only worked on a nvidia chipset? A: A lot less. Q: How many people would use an iPod if it only worked on Mac computers? A: Less than 8% of the market share. ----------------------------------- ecookman Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:06 am RE:Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- very true Euphoracle... I never thought of that ----------------------------------- apomb Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:45 am RE:Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- This move simply means that an earlier version of iTunes must be used with those types of phones. Though, its still an admittedly $h!tty (pardon the language) move. ----------------------------------- gianni Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:41 pm RE:Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- Douche-move? Yes. But it is admittedly sketchy that the Pre was masquerading as an Apple device to begin with. ----------------------------------- andrew. Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:27 pm Re: RE:Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- Douche-move? Yes. But it is admittedly sketchy that the Pre was masquerading as an Apple device to begin with.That's how I see it. If Palm wanted their users to have a good media experience on their product, they should've made their own software for it instead of having it pretend it's something else. ----------------------------------- Tony Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:39 pm RE:Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- If I read the article correctly, Apple has fixed an authentication bug in their software, not blocked the Palm device specifically. ----------------------------------- saltpro15 Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:36 pm RE:Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- Doesn't surprise me. Apple's latest middle finger to the rest of the market was to be expected, the Pre was pretending to be an iPod after all. ----------------------------------- ecookman Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:53 pm RE:Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- well I don't blame them, because they are just another company who is trying to make money. except being total dicks while doing it...kinda reminds me of tat M one too...oh yea microsoft. but, yea it looks like a $$ move to me. ----------------------------------- rdrake Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:14 pm RE:Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- Two things: Palm shouldn't have pretended their phones were i* products to begin with. iTunes is horrible anyways, and nobody in their right mind would want to use it. That is all. Edit: Anybody know how to stop iTunes from opening up and syncing with an i* device in OS X when you plug it in? It annoys me to no end that it does that. Seriously, I just want to plug it in for Xcode, not to sync music. ----------------------------------- Tony Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:44 pm RE:Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- I think it's simply a bad decision to make a key feature (key "advertised" feature) rely on 3rd party software staying broken... Palm should have known that at some arbitrary point things would stop working the same way, and they should have prepared for such an event better. @rdrake: iTunes -> Preferences -> Devices -> "Disable automatic syncing for iPhones and iPods" Although I can't test if that actually works at the moment. ----------------------------------- TheGuardian001 Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:37 pm Re: Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- While it wasn't very smart of Palm to make one of their key features a security hole which was bound to be patched eventually, It's still not very intelligent of Apple to disable support for 3rd party players, even if that can include competitors. The only reason I can see for people to use iTunes at all is the store, since it does tend to have a lot of songs, but I'd rather go to the trouble of finding my song elsewhere than be limited to an iProduct. ----------------------------------- ecookman Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:42 pm Re: Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- but I'd rather go to the trouble of finding my song elsewhere than be limited to an iProduct. And that is exactally why i love the ARCHOS products. same price as a itouch, double the memory, triple the features. E.g. GPS (no cost) and TV recording in upto 720p (last tie i checked) and for all i am concerned a superior touch screen. ----------------------------------- DtY Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:36 am Re: RE:Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- Two things: Palm shouldn't have pretended their phones were i* products to begin with. iTunes is horrible anyways, and nobody in their right mind would want to use it. That is all. Edit: Anybody know how to stop iTunes from opening up and syncing with an i* device in OS X when you plug it in? It annoys me to no end that it does that. Seriously, I just want to plug it in for Xcode, not to sync music. Go into an administrator account and block your user's access to iTunes. And this isn't a douche move. It's like Windows not giving updates to people who are using a pirated copy. ----------------------------------- andrew. Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:01 pm Re: Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- but I'd rather go to the trouble of finding my song elsewhere than be limited to an iProduct. And that is exactally why i love the ARCHOS products. same price as a itouch, double the memory, triple the features. E.g. GPS (no cost) and TV recording in upto 720p (last tie i checked) and for all i am concerned a superior touch screen.But you don't have the multi-touch screen and accelerometers (which are very useful IMO) and you don't have the HUGE library of apps and games for it. Plus the iPod touch and iPhone are thinner and smaller and can generally fit in your pocket, unlike most Archos players. ----------------------------------- rdrake Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:08 pm Re: RE:Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- Go into an administrator account and block your user's access to iTunes.I need access to iTunes on occasion, I just wanted to stop them from syncing. Tony's suggestion worked, thanks. ----------------------------------- octopi Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:01 pm Re: Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- But you don't have the multi-touch screen and accelerometers (which are very useful IMO) To be honest, I wish my iPhone didn't have an accelerometer in it, then it wouldn't change the layout of things I'm looking at arbitrarily. If anyone has ever tried to use an iPhone while laying down they'll understand what I mean. Also not a fan of the recent changes to SMS, making it now flip....I was pretty used to (and happy) with it not flipping. I wish there was a legitimate way to disable the accelerometer without having to hack the iPhone. ----------------------------------- andrew. Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:39 am Re: Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- I wish there was a legitimate way to disable the accelerometer without having to hack the iPhone.I was about to say to jailbreak it and then you could disable it. ----------------------------------- gianni Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:44 am Re: Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- To be honest, I wish my iPhone didn't have an accelerometer in it, then it wouldn't change the layout of things I'm looking at arbitrarily. If anyone has ever tried to use an iPhone while laying down they'll understand what I mean. Also not a fan of the recent changes to SMS, making it now flip....I was pretty used to (and happy) with it not flipping. I wish there was a legitimate way to disable the accelerometer without having to hack the iPhone. I would also argue that you're in the minority here. Landscape mode can be very useful at times. Perhaps the iPhone is not the right device for you? ----------------------------------- octopi Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:51 am Re: Apple blocks rival smart phones ----------------------------------- The only time I ever use landscape mode is for videos, and for safari. It would be nice if there was a way to rotate it and then lock it into that position.