----------------------------------- rdrake Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:33 pm Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Since this seems to be a common topic that's coming up constantly, I figured it might as well be a sticky so a new topic isn't created every time somebody has a question. So... any interested people can post which schools they applied to, their first semester averages (or half year averages, whatever the case may be with your school). Post additional notes as well and the result of your application. I'll start. Schools Applied To: Waterloo - Computer science. Ryerson - Chemical engineering, computer science. UOIT - Computing science. Application Average: 83% (I think, it's been a while) Schools Accepted To: All. Ryerson - Responded first, almost right away. UOIT - Responded a week or two later. Waterloo - Responded a bit later than the others, but still a few weeks in advance of the final deadline. Additional Information: I sent in the Waterloo AIF form with a few projects I had worked on and volunteer experience. I think that was all the extra stuff I did. I also had a fairly decent English mark (around 80% I think, I was always lazy). If anybody else has a question specifically about admission averages, post it here or I will lock your topic and point you to here anyways :-). Stick any unrelated questions in the regular forums as usual. ----------------------------------- allenh98 Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:27 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Thanks a lot for this! ----------------------------------- CodeMonkey2000 Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:36 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I sent in the Waterloo AIF form with a few projects I had worked on and volunteer experience. What do you mean by projects? Can I send in what I programmed in my own time, and they will consider it? ----------------------------------- rdrake Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:39 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I sent in the Waterloo AIF form with a few projects I had worked on and volunteer experience. What do you mean by projects? Can I send in what I programmed in my own time, and they will consider it?In my particular case it was Rubidium, a Ruby-based IRC client that Cervantes, Hikaru79, and myself worked on. There's really no way of telling whether or not it would help, but it couldn't hurt now could it? ----------------------------------- CodeMonkey2000 Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:16 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- How did you send it? Did you email it? I didn't know you could do that, I guess it's good to know. I did spent all summer making a 3D engine in C++ and openGL, at least it didn't go to waste :P ----------------------------------- changturkey Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:56 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- How do you guys learn this stuff? Pretty sure they don't teach you this stuff in highschool. Makes me feel stupid :wink: . ----------------------------------- rdrake Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:07 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- How did you send it? Did you email it?The project? I just described what it was. ----------------------------------- SJ Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:53 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Did you do any contests? Do you know how much they would factor? ----------------------------------- [Gandalf] Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:23 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- For Waterloo any of their contests would factor quite highly, even if you didn't do that well participation is a plus. Other universities probably don't care that much, but it's always something. ----------------------------------- rdrake Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:36 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I did the math contests, but not any programming ones. I did ok, not great but not horribly. ----------------------------------- nike52 Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:55 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Did you do any contests? Do you know how much they would factor? If you're going into compsci, you should do the contests for a while anyways, they are very good training - problem solving, programming skills and whatnot. ----------------------------------- Roman Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:46 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Schools Applied To UofW UofT Schools Accepted To Both Admission Average 92% or so Process/Info I didn't apply to Computer Science per se, I applied to Math, and got early offers (but conditional) for both. I didn't really do any contests, slept through the EUCLID, etc. But I filled out the AIF form. My Calculus average was 87%, Advanced Functions was 92% and English was 91%. I think I would have gotten admission to CS as well, but I'm not 100% sure since I didn't take any programming classes. Hope it helped to some extent. ----------------------------------- unoho Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:28 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- hey guys, does anyone knows what's the mininum average to get into computer science and software engineering (both) @ university of waterloo for 2009? what are some of the course requirements?? also, i don't understand the difference between software engineering and computer science. i want to get into video game developing field after graduating. what should i do? computer science or software engineering? thanks ----------------------------------- jbking Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:48 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Software engineering is a subset of computer science. There are more than a few elements of computer science that are outside of software engineering: 1) Hardware design - This uses more physical elements than software. 2) Symbolic Computation/Numerical analysis - Maple would be an excellent example of the former and Matlab the latter that while there is some software engineering in making these there is also a whole lot of Math too. 3) Computational Complexity - proving that a problem is NP-complete usually doesn't involve writing some software. 4) Theoretical computer science - What can be done with finite automata compared to the automata with a stack compared to a Turing machine. Those would be my main ones that come to mind though there may be other areas of CS that are pretty much far, far away from programming. In contrast, all software engineering is part of computer science. I would note that at Waterloo, software engineering can be done through either the Math or Engineering faculties which some may find odd. ----------------------------------- bugzpodder Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:26 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- software engineering is a cross discipline between the engineering faculty and math faculty. if you like math and theory, go for cs. if you just like to program, go for soft eng (i think its harder to get in since its smaller) ----------------------------------- iluvchairs112 Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:45 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Schools Applied To: Waterloo - Computer science. Waterloo - Software Engineering Brock - Computer science (something like that anyway...) Application Average: 90 Schools Accepted To: All Brock - responded first. mid January. first set of offers. got full scholarship. Waterloo comp sci - Responded a week later. late January. still first set of offers. only got $2000 scholarship Waterloo soft eng - I didn't take chem. ended up canceling my application anyway. decided I didn't want to do software engineering anyway Additional Information: sent in Waterloo AIF for comp sci and soft eng. That's all. Had a ton of extracurriculars and a lot of work (jobs I mean). Volunteering is good as well. Helps with scholarships anyway. If you have 85+ average, you're going to get in provided you submit all necessary paperwork like the AIF (or anything similar for other schools). Anything 80+ average, you're going to get into a VERY GOOD school. Not necessarily the *one* you want, but Waterloo computer engineering isn't the only school for you ... there are many more (just as an example). And make sure you have at least a 70 in English. If you've got all 90s in maths and computer courses but a 55 in English, you still might not get in. You need a decent (not amazing) English mark as well. ----------------------------------- BafisComen Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:32 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- For Waterloo,what if you have an 85+ average but very few extracurriculars? I don't even have my 40 hours yet. I did do the CCC and the Canadian Open though. But how would my lack of extracurriculars otherwise affect my chances of getting in? (my average is 87% for now) ----------------------------------- BafisComen Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:01 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- BUMP Schools Applied to: Waterloo Computer Science Western Ontario Science UofT Computer Science w/ Artificial Intelligence Option McMaster Engineering 1 Queen's Computing Carleton - Computer Science w/ Computer Game Development option Averages: Chemistry 85 Advanced Functions 87 Computer Science 96 Physics 88 Calculus 89 Result: Accepted to Carleton (based off grade 11 marks) so far, anyone else? ----------------------------------- endless Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:00 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- i got early acceptance to carleton for comp science too. as well as geomatics at waterloo. (around 85 av.) ----------------------------------- CodeMonkey2000 Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:34 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- W00t I just got my letter of acceptance from UW for CS(on my birthday too ^_^ ). Applied to: CS at UW (accepted) Pure Math at UW (accepted) CS at WLU (accepted) My Grades: CS: 92 chemistry: 88 English: 84 physics: 79 (it's a lot lower than I though) Calc and Vectors: 95 Advanced functions: 95 My extracurricular was average. I was in 2 clubs, had a job, volunteered at the YMCA and spent a lot of time programming. My average is 88, I though it was 90, but I was looking at my grade 11 mark :( .Oh well I'm pretty sure I can get it over 90 if I work hard in Bio. ----------------------------------- saltpro15 Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:02 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- 95 in calculus ?! gratz man, that's awesome! i need to get me some extracurriculars then :( ----------------------------------- Amit Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:14 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I also just got my letter from Waterloo. I applied to Western, Queens, and Waterloo, and only Queens hasn't replied yet. Marks: English - 90 Spanish - 89 Adv. Functions - 85 Calc - 89 Data - 94 My marks were pretty good, but not amazing. I think what put me over the top was the contests, I got a school medal in for the Fermat and was a division champion in the junior CCC. I also work and play hockey and soccer. ----------------------------------- saltpro15 Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:59 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Waterloo shows a bit of favor to applicants who have written their math and programming contests correct? ----------------------------------- Prabhakar Ragde Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:13 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- A bit. They play a greater role in scholarships (awarded after the spring round of contests). ----------------------------------- BafisComen Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:30 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- For everyone that has gotten admitted based on their grade 12 marks: have your marks been added on to your OUAC pages or did you send in your marks seperately? ----------------------------------- Horus Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:10 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- For everyone that has gotten admitted based on their grade 12 marks: have your marks been added on to your OUAC pages or did you send in your marks seperately? yea i'm wondering the same. my teachers said that they submitted my marks last week, but on the ouac website, my gr 12 marks still doesn't show ----------------------------------- CodeMonkey2000 Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:49 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- If you go on the SOCR site for course selection, you will find a transcript of all your marks, including the ones from semester 1 of this year. ----------------------------------- endless Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:18 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- ouac has my last semester's marks as of yesterday, although that will vary between high schools. ----------------------------------- Veladen Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:13 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Schools Applied To: Waterloo - Computer science. Waterloo - Computer Engineering McMaster - Computer Engineering Application Average: 90 Schools Accepted To: So far got early acceptance to Waterloo computer science. Additional Information: Does any one know the main differences between computer science and computer engineering. I have done some research on it but it is unclear. Does either degree have an advantage over the other when applying to a job? ----------------------------------- petree08 Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:14 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I got accepted to 4 out of 5 colleges, not to shabby ----------------------------------- nike52 Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:43 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- comp eng and comp sci can both apply to software, hardware jobs, or those jobs where a technical degree or a degree related to compsci is required (e.g. business analyst) comp eng has an advantage over compsci for hardware jobs (there aren't a lot of hardware jobs though) compsci has an advantage over compeng for software jobs you won't be a in huge disadvantage though, i've heard of compeng's getting software jobs, and compsciers getting hardware jobs, but i think it would probably be more difficult for a compscier to get a hardware jobs then a compeng for a software job since compeng can do both software and hardware, but compsci doesn't learn enough related stuff to to be able to do hardware ----------------------------------- DemonWasp Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:49 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Computer Science students learn a fair bit about the machine hardware. In fact, it's largely comparable to what the Computer Engineering students learn of software (there's a CE student sitting in the cube next to mine). Both can get jobs in the other field, but both will be at a disadvantage to the "native" of the other field in a competitive job market. At UWaterloo, there may be some blurring of the distinction; CS has the "Digital Hardware" option, and CE may have something similar; these programs seem to have a bit more cross-over. ----------------------------------- Horus Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:04 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- my marks finally show on OUAC but my advanced function course is missing.... no where on the OUAC does it show that i'm taking the advanced function course... however it showed before my marks show up. however my other marks are there, except calculus because i just started it now (cause it's semestered) i asked my friends in my school, they say theirs doesn't show either, i think some1 messed up the marks in our school... so far my marks are: 94 comp sci 87 data 77 physics 66 english my 87 advanced function doesn't show.... and i'm getting 98 in calculus right now... what's my chance? ----------------------------------- riveryu Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:20 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Horus, so far your english mark may deter you for some programs. You did'nt say what you want to go in to... ----------------------------------- Horus Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:04 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Horus, so far your english mark may deter you for some programs. You did'nt say what you want to go in to... Oh yea lol.. computer science @ waterloo, UT, mcmaster, carleton all coop i'm mainly worried about getting into waterloo... and for english, i'm currently retaking it in a private school, i think i can guarantee that i get over 85% (though -1% overall avg for retaking, and another -1% for taking it in private school) and oh yea 99 in calculus now XD ----------------------------------- A.J Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:08 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I am applying to UW next year (well, this year FOR next year as a parttime student) I am trying to get rid of some of my first year courses in grade 12.... so far this year, my average is (for the math/cs courses at least): Calc : 97% Adv Functions : 97% grade 12 CS : 100% They might not look at your marks for a parttime student, but thats what I think....anyone know what the criteria are? ----------------------------------- VB3CK Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:34 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Math:73% :( English:91% :) COMPScIence: 95% History : 86% need to improve my markszzz ----------------------------------- Dark Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:47 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- my marks finally show on OUAC but my advanced function course is missing.... no where on the OUAC does it show that i'm taking the advanced function course... however it showed before my marks show up. however my other marks are there, except calculus because i just started it now (cause it's semestered) i asked my friends in my school, they say theirs doesn't show either, i think some1 messed up the marks in our school... so far my marks are: 94 comp sci 87 data 77 physics 66 english my 87 advanced function doesn't show.... and i'm getting 98 in calculus right now... what's my chance? Haha! You sound like me: My school is also non-semestered, also getting 98 in calc but it says no mark Oh, and check your OUAC now, the advanced functions mark is there, because the grade 11 marks (Because it's completed). Get English up and otherwise you have a good chance for Waterloo, if tht's what you are asking. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Topic: Biology SBI4U 84% Communications Technology TGJ4M 77% Advanced Functions(Final) MHF4U 76% :( Computer Science ICS4M 90% English ENG4U 78% Resource Management CGR4M 94% Calc and Vectors MCV4U 98%, bot no mark on OUAC So, with those marks besides calc, how much of a chance do you think I have at Computer Science for: Waterloo, UofT scarborough, and Ryerson? ----------------------------------- Alexmula Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:14 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- does anyone know what kind of scores does one need from the euclid test to get a scholarship ----------------------------------- A.J Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:24 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- does anyone know what kind of scores does one need from the euclid test to get a scholarship best in school would be good... I think >80 is ok...there'll probably be a scholarship for that. But >90 will definitely have a scholarship. and does anyone have any advice about my part-time student thing? ----------------------------------- implosion Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:45 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- i applied to universities, but then decided i need to stay back an extra year.. here were my marks anyways.. Chem: 71 (taking again next year) Physics: 61 (taking again next year) Advanced Functions: 77 (taking again next year) ----currently taking---- Computer Engineering : 87 Computer Science: 95 English: 91 (2 quiz's) Calculus: 91 (only wrote 1 test) ps. i heard that a lot of people applied to mcmaster for engineering and that there gonna raise there admission average from 80-82 to 85... anyone know anything about that ? edit: Anyone know whats the lowest average that anyone has gotten in to CE/SE/CS ? @ UW or McMaster and how much the AIF affects your marks ----------------------------------- Horus Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:33 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- just got an "Admitted with Condition(s)" with carleton university. *waits for UW* ----------------------------------- jernst Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:40 am Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- just got an "Admitted with Condition(s)" with carleton university. *waits for UW* Congrats, and good luck with UW :P ----------------------------------- Crazymik3 Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:36 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- So far I've been admitted into Carleton and UOttawa, and both with scholarships. Just waiting on U of T and UW now! ----------------------------------- Horus Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:26 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- just got an "Admitted with Condition(s)" with carleton university. *waits for UW* Congrats, and good luck with UW :P thx with your good luck i just got an admitted into Mcmaster. still worrying about UW though... there are so many ppl here with higher marks than me who applied for UW. and my calculus just dropped to 95 :( ----------------------------------- saltpro15 Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:53 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- so far this semester I'm holding steady at around a 94 average, but my math and science marks last semester were rather lower than usual :( (80 and 85). I'm leaning more towards software engineering than comp sci now, 2 questions. 1. do I get an iron ring if I graduate software engineering? 2. does software engineering at idk say waterloo still offer that great co-op program? ----------------------------------- DemonWasp Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:19 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I don't know about #1, but I can answer #2: Yes, both the Math and Engineering faculties do have co-op programs. Technically, so do the Arts and Science faculties, but a much lesser percentage of their students participate. As a "softie" (SE major), you would be an engineer, which means you take engineering courses (as well as the PDEng courses, rather than standard PD). ----------------------------------- jcollins1991 Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:45 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- so far my marks are: 94 comp sci 87 data 77 physics 66 english my 87 advanced function doesn't show.... and i'm getting 98 in calculus right now... what's my chance? i've got sorta the same marks... sem 1... funtions - 93 physics - 78 computer engineering - 82 (first time i've taken it...) english - 65 sem 2 computer science - 96 calculus - 91 (we started w/ vectors) international business - high 80's probably about english though... http://www.findoutmore.uwaterloo.ca/thenextstep/admitted/conditions.php near the bottom of the page it says minimum 75% average in english, functions, and calculus... this means the overall average of those courses must be atleast 75%, not that you need minimum of 75% in each of the seperate classes... this is what i was told when i called into the waterloo admissions department... also, if you have special circumstances that would affect your english mark, you could have told them that on your AIF... ----------------------------------- mono-1-rulz Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:56 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- umm...this is sort of off topics...but i hread extracurriculars matter even more than marks for universities esp. UW........and am kinda worried abt that........if anyone can clarify this that would be great!!!! :D ----------------------------------- BigBear Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:07 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Most universitys take into account extra curricular activities, because it is hard to get high ninetys with extra stuff going on. ----------------------------------- Horus Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:06 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- just a question to all who got accepted into UT and waterloo. what's the minimum average you have to maintain to keep your offer? ----------------------------------- Drew416 Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:35 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- umm...this is sort of off topics...but i hread extracurriculars matter even more than marks for universities esp. UW........and am kinda worried abt that........if anyone can clarify this that would be great!!!! :D No, from what I've heard having a kickass AIF(the document in which you enter your EC's) can give you upto a 5% bump in marks in UW's eyes but if your AIF sucks it won't hurt you so if you have say an 88 avg, and sucky extracurriculars the will judge you as 88%, and remember that ECs are only a small part of AIF which contains your work history, teacher's references, math/cs competitions etc so it's possible to have a very good AIF despite poor ECs. There is no way for them to confirm your ECs are true that is why I don't think they give too much weight to ECs, anyone could write that through their life they eliminated poverty, fed the hungry, saved the children, healed the sick and clothed the nude. Just make sure your marks are solid, do a little volunteering if you can (1 hr a week at a homless shelter for example is gonna look pretty good) but if you can't don't sweat it. ----------------------------------- Saad Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:57 am Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- English - 79 Calculus and Vectors - 98 Advanced Functions - 98 Computer Science - 100 Chemistry - 90 Physics - 98 Accounting - 98Average for the 6 is around 93.67 Applied to: Mechatronics Computer Science Mathematical Physics At University of Waterloo Accepted to all programs with standard conditions; Mechatronics might have different conditions. I feel my AIF for each program was in depth and answered the questions. ----------------------------------- CodeMonkey2000 Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:08 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Wow congrats saad. 98% in physics is just insane. Be seeing you next year man ;) ----------------------------------- phreadj Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:19 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- are there any IB kids who have applied to universities with their predicted IB marks? ----------------------------------- saltpro15 Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:24 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Update : So, by the end of gr12 I'll have around 250 hours of community service, think I should go for more or just join another sports team? ----------------------------------- CodeMonkey2000 Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:59 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- are there any IB kids who have applied to universities with their predicted IB marks? I did, but I am in partial. Why do you ask? ----------------------------------- Dark Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:31 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- so far this semester I'm holding steady at around a 94 average, but my math and science marks last semester were rather lower than usual :( (80 and 85). I'm leaning more towards software engineering than comp sci now, 2 questions. 1. do I get an iron ring if I graduate software engineering? 2. does software engineering at idk say waterloo still offer that great co-op program? yes and yes ----------------------------------- saltpro15 Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:07 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- thanks Dark, good to know ----------------------------------- implosion Mon May 18, 2009 5:51 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Schools Applied To: Waterloo - Computer science, software engineering UofT St. George - CE, CS UofT Scarborough CS McMaster - Engineering (general), CS Application Average: 82.3 for compsci 77 for engineering =P (everything after midterms went down hill (N) ) Schools Accepted To: Alternate offer from Mac to Mohawk for B.Technology UofT Scarborough Compsci Additional Information: well i thought i was gonna stay back an extra year after i applied so i didn't fill out any forms. i wrote gr.11/12 waterloo contest and some CNML ones. PS. anybody have any information about CS at scarborough, i know on einfo under major interests it says software engineering... does that give me the title to an "engineer" ? and what does it mean by joint to this/ that.. ? http://www.electronicinfo.ca/en/program-details.php?pcode=572224_572089_207_184&j=1 ----------------------------------- Dark Fri May 22, 2009 9:41 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Schools Applied to: 1) Waterloo - Coop Computer Science 2) Ryerson - Coop Computer Science 3) UofT Scarborough - Coop Computer Science Admission Average: 83% Schools accepted to: all Enrolled in: Waterloo - Coop Computer Science edit: woot first on 5th page ----------------------------------- Crazymik3 Fri May 22, 2009 12:21 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I applied to: Waterloo - Co-op Computer Science Toronto - Co-op Computer Science Carleton - " Ottawa - " Accepted: All Admission Avg: 85% ...Still not sure where I'm going to go. ----------------------------------- SJ Fri May 22, 2009 7:20 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- applied to: Waterloo - Software Engineering Toronto - Computer Science Toronto - Engineering Science Accepted to everything. SE came in early march, CS came in mid april, ES came in mid may. I figured a big reason I got into waterloo much earlier than toronto is because I took the time to fill out the AIF, where as I rushed through the toronto's engineering thing. Admission Average 91, did Euclid and CCC, had 2 sports, club prez, and vice prez. will be going to waterloo :) ----------------------------------- SnytaxError Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:14 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Does taking grade 12 english in summer school affect your ability to get into waterloo-cs or UofT-cs? ----------------------------------- SNIPERDUDE Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:33 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- As far as I'm aware - no. It doesn't matter where you achieved your mark - so long as you have it (and it's good). The same goes for night school. ----------------------------------- Alexmula Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:55 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- i believe repeated courses do affect your final average. i think they'll take off either 1% from the course or final average ----------------------------------- QbertEnhanced Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:24 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- If anyone wants to know, i got Bioinformatics and Computer Science, both at Waterloo. Applied with a gr.11 average of 90 and a first semester average of 89 ----------------------------------- napwressyrisp Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:09 pm Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Hi, I want to take admission in DCE. Can anybody please tell me where I can find out the relevant admission info. Also is there any prerequisites for taking this diploma course. ----------------------------------- bbi5291 Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:42 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Meh, this thread isn't depressing enough, so what the heck: Applications MIT Caltech Stanford Princeton Harvard Yale Waterloo co-op CS Waterloo co-op physical sciences UTSG physical sciences Accepted: the last three grade 11 averages: roughly 96 grade 12 averages: roughly 97 *waits to get verbally pwned by PR* ----------------------------------- UnknownID Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:26 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Seeing as everyone keeps posting high marks for crazy admissions, I figured it is time for someone to post something targeted towards people with lower-end marks. When I had 83 avg mid term (bad marks in compsci and calc) Accepted (compsci): Toronto, Ottawa, Carleton Waterloo redirected me towards geomatics (hell no). End of semester. compsci: 64 calc: 57 comp eng: 90 adv functions: 75 english: 80 business: 85 Went to Toronto with condition that I could only take 3 credits max in first year. You don't need a super amazing mark just to get somewhere, just do your best. Don't lax because I showed you bad marks that still got me into a university, you still want those scholarships because tuition is expensive ;_; btw, for those who are wondering... I landed right on the cut-off point with avg of 75. edit: woops, meant 3 credits, not 3 courses. ----------------------------------- hamid14 Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:01 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- i wanna apply to these, but can anyone tell me if i even have a chance of getting accepted to waterloo? waterloo university -for CS and comp eng university of toronto - for CS grade 11 first semester physics - 65% chemistry - 79% math functions - 86% computer programming - 94% grade 11 second semester english - 80% (anticipated mark) computer programming - 95% (anticipated mark) comp eng - 95% (anticipated mark) data management - 90% (anticipated mark) obviously this doesnt have calculus, or gr 12 functions, but say i was to apply to waterloo university with these marks for something in math or engineering, would i get accepted? and i also need to know when to apply, so that my grade 12 marks are the ONLY marks sent for uni application. really appreciate the info, thanks guys. ----------------------------------- mono-1-rulz Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:09 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Grd 11 marks don't matter except for early admissions. Keep your Grade 12 marks within the range of 75 up and you should be fine. Fill up the AIF too. But Waterloo requires you to have taken the Advanced Functions and Calculus courses. I am pretty sure you can't apply without them and don't see why you would want to anyway considering the Calc courses at Wloo assume knowledge of high-school courses. If you wanna get ahead, look into doing AP courses and maybe you can get transfer credits (I know many people who have done this). ----------------------------------- hamid14 Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:44 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- what are AP credits? will do some searching ----------------------------------- aimango Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:00 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- waterloo doesnt really like AP. 99% sure you dont get credits because i havent heard of anyone at all here that has gotten credits. also get involved with your own cs projects or participate in other contests (not just CCC) because thats important for admissions too. not just the marks. btw have you considered software eng at waterloo? ----------------------------------- hamid14 Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:45 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- if you're talking to me, lol, i did consider soft eng but now i dont. it requires physics and chemistry, and they are not my most favorite subjects. ----------------------------------- mono-1-rulz Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:47 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- @Aimango, I know quite a few people who used their AP credits for Economics, Calculus and even History. ----------------------------------- helLOHELlo Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:34 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- just wondering i took my calc, gr12 phy and gr12 chem in gr11 year does this affect anything? admission average means 1)average of gr12 courses? or 2)average of courses you took in gr12 year? ----------------------------------- Tony Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:54 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- grade 12 courses. Otherwise one could fill their electives with super-easy grade 9 level courses in their final year ;) ----------------------------------- Biotaki Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:35 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Do UW look at the marks that are not top 6 as well? (for CS) I'm getting 60s in physics right now.. However my top 6 is averaged to be around 87 (MHF4U, MCV4U, ENG4U, ICS4U, MDM4U, BAT4M). Thanks. ----------------------------------- Tony Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:07 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- They say they don't. Make sure that Physics is not a required course for admissions. And double-check if all top 6 need to be 4U courses or not ("BAT4M"). ----------------------------------- Biotaki Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:32 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- They say they don't. Make sure that Physics is not a required course for admissions. And double-check if all top 6 need to be 4U courses or not ("BAT4M"). It says 4 or 5 12U courses (includes ENG,MHF,MCV) are required and next-highest Grade 12U or M marks for a total of 6 courses. hm..good to know, but I'm still gotta work harder as mid-term is approaching. ----------------------------------- helLOHELlo Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:35 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Do I need biology for computer science or software engineer? I'm choosing my gr12 courses now and I'm having a hard time on deciding to choose bio or not... [I didn't even take gr11 bio since I hate it and I didn't do well first time(in my gr10 year) so I dropped it before it will show on my transcript...] ----------------------------------- apython1992 Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:24 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- No, you do not need biology. At Waterloo, the required courses are Advanced Functions, Calculus & Vectors, a --4U English and --4U/M Computer/Information Science. I'd imagine it's by and large similar across most universities. Of course, as with most Universities in Canada, your top six grade 12 marks are taken into account, so you need to fill in the rest with other courses. If you think biology might help your top six average, then by all means, take it. Otherwise, it wouldn't really do too much unless you plan on going into computational biology or something. ----------------------------------- Tony Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:44 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- and --4U/M Computer/Information Science Computer Science is not required, it's only "recommended". During high school, I found that it's much easier to get really high marks in hard sciences (such as math and biology) than in other courses. It's simply easier to demonstrate a fact or execute a procedure than getting your subjective essays to land on top of the stairs. ----------------------------------- apython1992 Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:50 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/navigation/Prospective/requirements_chart1.shtml#computer_science Maybe it's changed, I don't know, but it seems to be required, at least according to this. And I completely agree...I find it so hard to get high marks in subjective courses like english. Unfortunately, it's one of the courses that's always required. Understandable, but a bit frustrating. ----------------------------------- Tony Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:55 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I'm reading this as Grade 12 M Computer and Information Science _or_ one other Grade 12 U course That is to say, a 4M CS course can attribute to "top 6" instead of a 4U course. I suppose a bunch of schools list CS as 4M courses, and some don't even offer CS. It is very much not required, but I am not a UW admissions officer, so contact the school to make sure. Re: requirement of English. I didn't think much about its importance coming out of high school either, but it might be one of the most important courses. http://compsci.ca/v3/viewtopic.php?t=27517 ----------------------------------- apython1992 Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:08 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Yeah, I must have skipped over the "or one other Grade 12 U course". It makes sense that it shouldn't be required, because quite a number of schools don't offer it, and even if they did it isn't always well taught. As for the English, despite its importance in fields like math and science (thanks for that link Tony), it's something that so many intelligent math and science students struggle with. It's a struggle to care nearly as much, and it's a struggle then to achieve. I certainly wish I had a better attitude about it in high school. It should probably be the subject us folks put the most effort in during high school, because math and science comes out of natural ability and passion for the subject. ----------------------------------- ultimatebuster Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:55 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I'm currently in G11. I only know about uWaterloo's CS program. Is there any other universities i should consider? Current marks: Math 11 (U) - 98 Comm Tech 11 (M) - 97 Physics 11 (U) - 95 CS 11 (U) - 100 (projected) IB Chem HL (G11 U) - 88 (Projected, IB Level 5, Maybe able to get to a higher level) English 11 (U) - 83 (Low Projection) IB Bio SL (G11 U) - 80 (Low Projection, probably not gonna count, IB Level 5) I also take IB SL Math (12 Advanced Functions AND Calculus, counts as 2 credits and marks) - 98 (Projected, IB level 7) (Also there's no SL, or less I will take it) Not a lot of extracurricular. Since my school is not teaching that much, most of my time I've spent on learning stuff on my own (like programming, CCC Junior score of 75/75. Hoping for next year's senior to be >60s). I am leading our robotics club's programming section. I've done a couple of projects on my own in software, and will be doing more in the future, don't know if that counts, though. Also since I won't have math next year and a lot of free time in my schedule period, my current math teacher recommended me to study year one math on my own next year under his guidance, as I'm very good at self learning, especially when I can ask a teacher about stuff I don't understand. Though this won't count towards any credit or certificate of accomplishment (possibility to throw that onto the AIF?) Anyone know anything about scholarships with in uWaterloo and what else I'll need? ----------------------------------- Tony Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:34 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- @ultimatebuster -- downtown campus of UofToronto. UW and UofT undergrad CS is arguably on par, although the overall experience will be different in various ways. UofT is likely to give you better scholarships (although you might get to work (and thus paid) more via UW's co-op; Waterloo is cheap when it comes to scholarships). Apply to both, see what the offers are, and decide from there. ----------------------------------- apython1992 Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:18 am Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- @Ultimatebuster: What IB school are you at? ----------------------------------- ultimatebuster Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:40 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- What do you mean what ib school? Our school is pretty crappy in terms of course selection. ----------------------------------- apython1992 Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:28 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Well, you're taking IB classes, so I'd imagine you go to an IB school. The only IB school I know of in Waterloo region is Cameron Heights (the one I was at), so I'm wondering if you're going to school in Toronto or something. ----------------------------------- ultimatebuster Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:51 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Nah I'm 500 km away from Toronto. ----------------------------------- manwinder Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:53 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- MCR3U1 74 SCH3U1 75 SPH3U1 71 TGJ3M1 87 ENG3U1 70 ICS3U1 90 PPL3O1 93 TEJ3M1 92 ENG4UV 65(online) :( applied to: University of Waterloo Computer Science (Co-op and Regular) University of Toronto Computer Science Queen's University Computing McMaster University Computer Science I (Co-op) University of Guelph Computer Science York University YK:Computer Science (BSc) Wilfrid Laurier University BSc Honours Science Computer Science Guelph and Queens have not accepted me yet, but they have emailed me ----------------------------------- Snario Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:03 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Applied @ Waterloo to Math/CA Computer Science Computer Science and Business Double Degree Avg. 94 I'll let you know what happens ... // Also for the AIF form I'm wondering if anyone knows if they are snobby about your tone? For example, I want to write in it that I'm exceptionally good at Math and years ahead of my piers. That sounds cocky but really shouldn't I be allowed to be honest on an application for a mathematics program? I just don't want to see people who aren't as good as I am at Math and Computer Science getting in over me. Again, sounds cocky, but when the majority of the people at my school have been getting drunk every weekend, I've spent my time learning cool things and I think I deserve some recognition for that lol. /Nerd ----------------------------------- Sur_real Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:09 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I think you shouldn't talk about other people and how they're "bad" but rather just talk about yourself (imo, the key is to have confidence in your paragraphs but not too much as to become arrogant) If you really are better than your "piers" (lol), your grades, awards, etc will reflect that. AIF is to help them gauge what kind of person you are and how you will fit at waterloo ----------------------------------- RandomLetters Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:35 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- The AIF is about you, not your piers. After all, academia is a vast ocean of knowledge and people, your piers are barely a blip on the fractal coastline of university. What you should be talking about is not your piers, but the boat which shall sail away from the pier and across that endless ocean. Anyways, to ruin your cockiness... Avg: 90 High: adv functions 95 Low: english 85 Accepted to Waterloo computer science (co-op) ----------------------------------- Tony Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:12 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- @Snario -- it doesn't take much to do really well in high school, especially if you are competing against your own "platforms... used as a landing stage for boats" (as Sur_real pointed out -- peer vs pier). You'll likely get in. You'll also likely find yourself to no longer be top-of-the-class. Some find it shocking and stressful. Your long-term success depends (in part) on not taking it too personally. ----------------------------------- Velocity Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:02 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- 100 comp sci grade 11 100 physics grade 11 100 biology grade 11 99 grade 11 pre calculas (aim to get 100) 98 french grade 11 96 chemistry grade 11 86 fitness grade 12 55 grade 10 english (will i get accepted?) RE: I'm in grade 11 ----------------------------------- crossley7 Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:30 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Ok, how do you get 100 in all of those courses first of all and second, you probably need I significantly higher English mark to get in. Something in the 50's is really hard to cover up. ----------------------------------- Velocity Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:28 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- first of all those courses are really easy, and although it may seem easy to write the language you speak your whole life, to me, its not, its almost impossible i have no clue why. Even though that i think im very good with the english language, and the french language... I struggle in english. I have absolutely no clue. ----------------------------------- Velocity Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:30 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- im in grade 11. will i still get accepted into university? like lets say that my grade 12 marks are amazing all over 90's, will they ask me about grade 11? i want to get into waterloo, my second option is U of T and my third is Ryerson ----------------------------------- Velocity Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:35 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- next semester im recovering my grade 11 english that i missed, and i already have 2 extra credits and i only intend on taking 1 spare, and i will take band next semester, so i will graduate with 34 credits. i have great extra cirriculars and just over 200 community hours. ----------------------------------- Velocity Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:38 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- im just really worried, and i really want to see some of the great friends i met on this website at university, since i am applying for the computer science courses and the biology and chemistry courses (cause chemistry and biology are soo easy) ugh but english... i honestly cried (first time in my life) about how stupid i am with english. ----------------------------------- Tony Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:38 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- grade 11 marks are for conditional early admissions; the actual admission will rely on only grade 12 marks either way. ----------------------------------- crossley7 Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:59 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Also, from what I have heard Bio gets harder in grade 12. At least at our school, and even still, not making dumb mistakes at all in chem is really hard. I coasted through my grade 11 to a 95 and had 98-100 on all my tests and exam aside for 1. It is unusual not to lose at least 1% in high school courses just because you are having a bad day or something ----------------------------------- RandomLetters Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:20 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Those marks are amazing. However, be aware of individual minimums for prerequisite courses, which are usually 70 if they exist. That means you might have to get that English mark up for grade 12. ----------------------------------- Velocity Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:44 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- yea i'll make sure to. Looks like i'll have to resort to reading books (other than the computer books i read) ugh. ----------------------------------- Velocity Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:48 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- above post is @ RandomLetters @ tony thats exactly the answer i was looking for @crossley I am just good in math and chemistry and physics because i have very good memorization skills that i have acquired from plays that i have been in. It makes it much easier for me, hence i remember all of the required elements and every single thing that i study (even if i were to read just my notes over twice) _________________ RE: and yea, im sure it does get harder (thats what im excited for... a real challenge. For now the only thing that occupies my time with mathematical challenges is computer science. Which is another factor that i love computers for in all their glory :) And how the hell dont my programs run as i anticipate them... by the way i see it, the program should run perfectly... then again, if they were to program everyones thoughts into the IDE's that we use to program. Firstly, that is nearly impossible. Secondly, programming would be too easy. I just dont see how it doesnt comprehend what i am trying to tell the computer (even when i speak its lingo "language") ^^^^^^^^ OFF TOPIC ----------------------------------- Abubakr Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:00 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I have just finished up applying to universities. I have applied to the following (all computer science): Waterloo UofT St.George UofT Mississauga MacMaster Guelph UOIT The following 6 courses will be used to calculate my average, final grades have yet to be given out so I have labeled with my estimates: Advanced Functions - 73-75% (Currently only at 70% due to poor decision making, time management and stress while writing tests. Still 30% of course mark to come so I can raise it.) English - ~82% Computer Science ~95% Computer Engineering ~95% Chemistry ~82% Calculus ~87% (Not bad at math, MHF due to bad decisions) So this means my final average should be around 84-86%. Will my MHF mark affect the universities decisions a lot? Which universities are likely to accept me? Thanks! ----------------------------------- Velocity Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:06 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Well for waterloo they mostly look at ur top 6 but above all, your AIF, extra cirrculars including projects you have completed and your volunteering. But if it does end up around 85 then you have a good chance of getting into most of those colleges. ----------------------------------- RandomLetters Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:12 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Waterloo requires MHF4U for compsci, so it will matter. But they will not not accept you because of that one mark alone. ----------------------------------- Abubakr Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:04 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Ok thank you. ----------------------------------- apython1992 Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:09 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- My two cents: don't let bad decisions discourage you from pursuing something you consider challenging and interesting. If you don't end up getting accepted the program/school you want, don't settle for something you wouldn't be happy with (i.e. backup schools, easier programs). It's far better to defer your post-secondary studies a term or year to boost a grade if need be then settle for something that you won't be happy with. I'm not trying to say this is going to happen, but it's good to be prepared for! ----------------------------------- mirhagk Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:03 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Actually apython you bring up a good point. I was actually thinking to myself if I would actually go to my back-up schools if I was accepted, or if I would take a night or online course to upgrade my english mark (currently at a 67) and work for a year, then reapply. ----------------------------------- apython1992 Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:14 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Good call. I stayed an extra year before going to university, and I'm so glad I did. I boosted my Physics mark and took another computer science course, then took the next semester to work full time, and now I'm able to pay for a good chunk of my education. There's no rush! ----------------------------------- mirhagk Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:46 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Yeah, I have a job too that would be willing to give me a full time job at 30K a year. It'd pay for about half my tuition, meaning that I could actually come out of university with no debt (assuming I do co-op and maintain the job part-time) ----------------------------------- hannibal423 Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:43 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Hi im currently in grade 11 right now,stressed out over admission,want to get early admission into UofT or waterloo so i wont have to have all this stress all over again next year my first term grades math 12 enriched:94 english 11:83 chemistry 11:87 physics 11:96 social studies 11:97 which gives me an average of 91.4,and im aiming for a 94% this semister i got a few questions here 1.i didnt quite understand a project i had in advanced programming class this term and afriade i will get a bad mark in advanced programming,will that hurt my chances of going to waterloo that needs past excellence in programming? 2.so i need 6 courses which the 6th would be calculus and vectors which ill be taking next year,but since i dont have that yet,does it mean my early admission average will be based on those 5 courses? 3.just how competetive is early admission?is 92-93% good enough? THANKS! ----------------------------------- Raknarg Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:54 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I don't think schools actually really want computer science. I've heard of people attending Waterloo with no prior knowledge at all. ----------------------------------- Aange10 Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:02 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I don't think schools actually really want computer science. I've heard of people attending Waterloo with no prior knowledge at all. [Citation Needed] ----------------------------------- RandomLetters Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:21 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Comptuer science is merely recommended. I think they will only look at it if it is a high mark for top 6. ----------------------------------- hannibal423 Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:46 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- thanks!that made me feel better.but does anyone know how high of an average is needed for early admission into CS co op at UofT or Uofwaterloo? ----------------------------------- crossley7 Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:43 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- They take more than just average into account for admission. Waterloo uses Euclid and AIF responses as well as your marks for submission. Toronto I believe uses mostly marks but not sure where their cut off is early admission. Cut off for admission is in the mid 80's ----------------------------------- mirhagk Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:32 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- When do early admissions usually go out? And what if I have six U courses already (doing a victory lap right now)? ----------------------------------- apython1992 Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:00 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I got my admission to UWaterloo in December of my applying year, so I think that's when they do early admissions. ----------------------------------- crossley7 Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:14 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I believe early admission are as the applications come in. I'm pretty sure they will have another round in February or March. I know U of T says their admissions are sent out Feb - May. Not sure about Waterloo early admission. ----------------------------------- hannibal423 Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:14 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- early admission in Feburary/March of the grade 11 year???using term 1 grade 11 marks?? ----------------------------------- crossley7 Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:40 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- February/March of Grade 12 year. I don't think you can apply until your graduating year (Grade 12). They need your full grade 11 marks and midterm/final first semester grade 12 marks at least. Mid term second semester marks for the regular admission ----------------------------------- hannibal423 Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:25 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- so,early admission is just,a month or two earlier than regular?=.= ----------------------------------- crossley7 Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:18 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- yeah, pretty much. It isn't all that early but can still relieve a large amount of stress during second semester of grade 12 when you are busy doing just about everything including trying to get as man scholarships as you can. ----------------------------------- hannibal423 Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:30 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- wait lemme get this straight,early admission looks at grade 11 mark,regular admission does not,early admission is few months earlier than regular admission,am i understanding this right? ----------------------------------- crossley7 Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:59 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Yes. Early looks at grade 11 where necessary and first semester marks and regular looks primarily at first semester and mid term marks for second semester. The offers are typically conditional of maintaining x average. A scholarship I received recently is guaranteed conditional that I maintain a 92% admission average and attend that university for example. ----------------------------------- hannibal423 Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:03 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- lemme guess,university of toronto?and since UofT has one big scholarship of 2000$ for 92%,is that safe to say that 92% can get you admission?since they are making it sound like 92 is impressive and deserves something special ----------------------------------- RandomLetters Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:06 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- $2000 is not that much considering that first year costs over $20000 including cost of living. But yes, anything over 90 will pretty much guarantee acceptance. So stop worrying. ----------------------------------- hannibal423 Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:12 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- thanks that helped alot.im an asian,you know how that goes :/ ----------------------------------- crossley7 Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:00 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Yeah it was from one of the colleges at U of T. Anything over 90 is very likely regardless ----------------------------------- busterkomo Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:11 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Just got accepted to Waterloo CS :). ----------------------------------- crossley7 Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:05 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Nice, what kind of grade 11 marks did you have just so I have an idea of what early acceptance marks are like ----------------------------------- Velocity Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:07 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- haha ended grade 11 semester one avg of 95:6%. English mark ended up being 77, still horrible and disgusting to look at but its ok... (myy school rounds it so 96% :DDD) ----------------------------------- busterkomo Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:47 am Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Nice, what kind of grade 11 marks did you have just so I have an idea of what early acceptance marks are like I fast-tracked a bit, so the courses that were sent were: SPH4U1 (Physics): 95 SES4UQ (Earth & Space Science): 93 TEJ3M1 (Computer Engineering): 91 SPH3U1 (Physics): 96 SCH3U1 (Chemistry): 95 SBI3U1 (Biology): 81 MCR3U1 (Functions): 96 ENG3U1 (English): 78 CLU3M1 (Canadian Law): 86 ----------------------------------- Velocity Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:02 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- wow you beat me in english by one percent... lol ----------------------------------- busterkomo Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:55 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Thankfully my grade 12 English mark will be a fair amount higher. I'm going into the exam with an 86. ----------------------------------- Raknarg Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:10 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- So what you're all saying is that I'm totally screwed XD ----------------------------------- Evalon Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:11 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I find some of these marks hard to believe, but to each his own. I finished SPH4U with a 78%, course median was in the 60s. It was a pretty tough course. I don't know if the 90s in physics/english are due to correspondence, online or private schools or what, but if you're in the TDSB a 90 in physics is wishful thinking. ...unless you're pretty smart. ;) ----------------------------------- busterkomo Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:33 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- ...unless you're pretty smart. ;) Relevant anecdote: In elementary school, my grades were by no means amazing (70-80), whereas the "smart" kids all had 90+. Then, when I got to high school, my grades dramatically rose, while the grades of the same kids I once thought were smart dramatically fell. The amount of homework I do has been about the same (next to none), and the amount of homework the "smart" kids have done has been about the same (a fair amount, but not excessive). No idea why my grades changed so dramatically. The other day, I saw a few of the smart kids looking over for some old Waterloo contest problems (I think it was from the Euclid). They were all collaborating on the same question, but were unable to come up with the correct answer. Looking over their shoulders, I solved the question with the correct answer (they weren't happy about this). After that, I thought to myself, "Am I actually pretty smart?" I'm going to wait for the Euclid contest before I come to a decision. Realistically, I'm hoping to get a score in the 75-80, though it will probably come down to a lot of luck. I finished SPH4U with a 78%, course median was in the 60s. It was a pretty tough course. I don't know if the 90s in physics/english are due to correspondence, online or private schools or what, but if you're in the TDSB a 90 in physics is wishful thinking. For what it's worth, my TEJ3M1 course median was 50, and my physics and chemistry class averages are around 60. My advanced functions class average will be pretty high (I have ~99), but my class is really smart. My teacher said she's never had a class so smart. Since I fast-tracked so many classes, I can confirm what she's saying. At least, the class of the year above us, and the class of two years above us have literally no one smart in them. ----------------------------------- [Gandalf] Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:19 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- ...unless you're pretty smart. ;) Relevant anecdote: In elementary school, my grades were by no means amazing (70-80), whereas the "smart" kids all had 90+. Then, when I got to high school, my grades dramatically rose, while the grades of the same kids I once thought were smart dramatically fell. The amount of homework I do has been about the same (next to none), and the amount of homework the "smart" kids have done has been about the same (a fair amount, but not excessive). No idea why my grades changed so dramatically. The other day, I saw a few of the smart kids looking over for some old Waterloo contest problems (I think it was from the Euclid). They were all collaborating on the same question, but were unable to come up with the correct answer. Looking over their shoulders, I solved the question with the correct answer (they weren't happy about this). After that, I thought to myself, "Am I actually pretty smart?" I'm going to wait for the Euclid contest before I come to a decision. Realistically, I'm hoping to get a score in the 75-80, though it will probably come down to a lot of luck. And, in university sometimes it takes yet another style of learning to do well. That's life, you won't get away with the same thing for too long. ;) ----------------------------------- busterkomo Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:41 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Yeah, but most would expect a decrease in grades, not an increase, as they go higher in education. I wonder if I'll experience the same phenomenon when I go to Waterloo CS (almost set on there now). ----------------------------------- crossley7 Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:01 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Well, my grades have steadily risen as I go to higher grades and if you put the effort in (and have the skill set needed to do well) it is very realistic to have grades increase. Or at least that is the case in the courses that I have focussed in and worked hard to achieve my marks. Math dropped 1% a year until I started caring this year and brought it back up. (95-99% is really just how many times you miss little things such as a negative sign or formatting. Rarely logic errors) ----------------------------------- mirhagk Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:18 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- (95-99% is really just how many times you miss little things such as a negative sign or formatting. Rarely logic errors) This why I think there needs to be a new way of marking tests. I understand all the concepts in my calculus course, and can do every question, but I sometimes make stupid mistakes, and so I end up with a 90% but knowing all the course material. For data management I tutored 3 people in it before I took it, then I took it, and the only things I screwed up on where things like, forgetting to label the axis, the fact that the school has retarded definitions of terms (a sample bias is counted in everything, including census's) and other stupid mistakes, so I have a 90% there too. I wish there was a way to get 100% on the math, and have a separate mark for stupid mistakes. ----------------------------------- crossley7 Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:08 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I know I recently got a 95% on my advanced functions exam and one of my mistakes consisted of forgetting I had cancelled something to -1 (and even written it on the page) so I ended up with the positive value instead of negative in my answer. Dumb things like that are the reason I don't have 100 in the course and yet I do that less this year than last so my mark is higher. ----------------------------------- busterkomo Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:11 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Apparently I only got 96.4 on the advanced functions exam I just wrote (my excuse: she marked it wrong). I was entering the exam with a 99.7, so luckily I still finish the course with a 98.7 (rounded up to 99). The best way to stop yourself from making small mistakes is to just sub the answer back into the original equation and see if it satisfies the equation, though I realise you cannot do this for every question. ----------------------------------- crossley7 Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:22 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Yeah, well at a certain point that 2 marks doesn't make a huge difference so I don't bother with double and triple checking closely. A 98 to finish the course is good enough for Universities to understand that is a strength for me. ----------------------------------- RyanGDI Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:18 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- For anyone interested in Carleton, I found this interesting link: http://oirp.carleton.ca/hsgrades/average-without-degree-35.xl1 Basically, it's admissions statistics for First-Year CompSci students at Carleton coming in from HS. Of course it's butchered when looking at it from Firefox, but if you take the text and pitch it into Notepad and save it as a webpage, you'll get this: http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/RyanGDI/Admissions.png So basically if I've got this right, anyone with a 73-74% or better shouldn't have the faintest worry about getting accepted. Hope this helps! ^_^ ----------------------------------- mirhagk Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:43 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Apparently universities have a average modifier based on the high school you went to, and the marks that students from that high school received in first year (like if students from one school are entering in with 90's from high school, but failing first year, then that school likely marks too easily) I would like to see some document for this if anyone could find it (unlikely to find it, as it's probably all internal confidential infomation, so I'd be impressed if someone did) ----------------------------------- Night Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:34 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I'll post what I have so far: University: Carleton Program: Honours Bachelor of Computer Science (Computer Game Development), Co-op Grades: MHF4U - 75 SBI4U - 72 ICS4U - 94 TGJ4M - 90 + 2 grade 11 courses (I assume) Average: Considering I have no idea what 3U/M courses they used, 81-86% Application result: Accepted w/ scholarship + residence, mid-February. ----------------------------------- saltpro15 Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:29 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- May as well contribute: Applied to: McMaster Engineering Waterloo Software Engineering UofT Engineering Application average was 90 ish, wrote Euclid/CCC and did decently well, no mentionable extracurriculars, accepted to all 3 programs. (Although Waterloo took forever) Currently attending McMaster, although I hear our cutoff is supposed to spike this year due to overcrowding. I feel I should stress that a 90 average will get you in pretty much anywhere in Canada unless it's a really small first year class like UofT's EngSci. It's worth it to try and keep really high averages for the entrance scholarships though, as they are renewable! ----------------------------------- Velocity Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:52 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Advanced Functions - 98.4 Chemistry - 99.6 Gym - 91 (which is pretty strange cause im good at sports) Calculas and Vectors - 97.9 That was last semester. This semester i have computer science physics biology english physics is god kill me boring, it doesnt help that our teacher is asian and has a ph.d and strictest marker you will ever see... hopefully ill come out around computer science - 100 (garunteed) physics - 90 ish biology - 95 ish english 98 or higher ----------------------------------- trishume Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:29 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Advanced Functions - 98.4 Chemistry - 99.6 Gym - 91 (which is pretty strange cause im good at sports) Calculas and Vectors - 97.9 That was last semester. This semester i have computer science physics biology english physics is god kill me boring, it doesnt help that our teacher is asian and has a ph.d and strictest marker you will ever see... hopefully ill come out around computer science - 100 (garunteed) physics - 90 ish biology - 95 ish english 98 or higher Whoah! Hadn't you said in an earlier post that your last English mark was in the high 70s? How did you possibly get a 98 in English? In my school I'm pretty sure no-one has ever gotten a 98 in English. Is a typo, do you have an easy teacher, got way more pro at English, or I misinterpreted your previous posts and you were always amazing at English? ----------------------------------- crossley7 Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:02 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- 98 in English? I'm pretty sure that isn't even possible at our school. Also, how do you get 98 in english but can't spell guaranteed? ----------------------------------- Velocity Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:21 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- i said thats what i hope to get this semester. Typos on the internet mean nothing. I dont take time to revise what i type. I just post. ----------------------------------- QuantumPhysics Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:36 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I am currently going for my masters degree in QuantumPhysics - if anyone has any questions to ask about university / college, feel free to ask me :) ----------------------------------- mirhagk Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:24 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- how do you do a master's degree? ----------------------------------- Dan Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:23 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- how do you do a master's degree? Slowly and painfully. Prerequisites Application First Year (first 3 terms) Second Year (2-3 terms) Bonus term 1 Bonus term 2 Post Graduation Note: The above is some what satirical, and many unversities have slightly diffrent processes. Apply addtional "cry", "procrastinate", or "fail" steps as necessary. ----------------------------------- Sur_real Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:08 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Wow...the post graduation seems depressing... What are the chances of getting your thesis published (other than getting a bound copy from the uni)? like in a journal or something? ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:21 am Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- What are the chances of getting your thesis published (other than getting a bound copy from the uni)? like in a journal or something? It's not unheard of to rewrite a thesis into a book for non peer reivewed publishing but i am not sure how beneficial that is to any one. More likely you may publish a small part of it as one or more papers in a peer reviewed confernce or idealy a peer reviewed journal. I am hoping to rewrite at least a chapter of my thesis which i blive is novel as a paper, however, i am currently perparing for my defence so i will have to see how that goes. The idea of publishing in the academic world is some what diffrent then in the literary world most peoleop are used to. In acmadenia you very rarely make direct income from your published wroks (unless it is a textbook type deal) and in some case you pay the publisher. Publishing scientific literature is mostly about informing others in the comunity about the work you have been doing, advancments in the field and more vainly promting your reputation. This reputation (of both the authors and the work in the paper) is offten quantified by the number of citations your published papers receive from other published peer reviewed papers. When applying for a job, grant, etc. it is much easy to sell your self with an extensive publication record and a large number of citations. ----------------------------------- bscit Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:26 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Applied to: UTSC Computer Science UW Computer Science UOIT Computing Science Grade 12 - Final Computer Science 85 Advanced Functions 83 International Law 85 English 90 Grade 12 - Midterm (Estimated) Physics 90 Calc and Vectors 87 Data Management 95 Average So far 85.75 Estimated Avg 88.3 - 88.7 (Depending on uni) AIF 3-4 clubs Honour Roll Laptop Program (Unique to my school) Accepted So far UOIT Computing Science Im currently depressed because I think that the program may fill out before midterms, when the uni is actually able to see my higher marks. I want to go to Waterloo Cs and UOIT is my bottom choice. However, i would not ignore UOIT. The only thing wrong with it is the school's age. ----------------------------------- Dreadnought Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:35 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I think that the program may fill out before midterms I would expect them to send out a reasonable number of offers after midterms, I highly doubt the program would fill up so soon. (there's still like 2.5 months before you have to accept offers I think) Last year, many of my friends received offers from universities after midterm marks (a couple of them had lost hope and were really surprised). I wouldn't lose hope yet, your estimated average is high 80's and, like I said earlier, there's still over 2 months. ----------------------------------- Haxify Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:29 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- can I ask something? because i'm really confused right now. I'm hoping to go to UW CS.. and i thought i was sending them 6 grade 12 courses (including all required) so i wasn't trying as hard till now (in grade 11 atm), and my early term mark was pretty...bad especially english. but one of my friend said that i apply around october~november, so they put the most focus on the grade 11 marks.. the only grade 12 mark i got so far is advanced functions which i got 93 with final exam 97. I was about to put in adv func, calculus, english, music, computer science, and physics or chemistry for the application but.. i'm so confused. i'm screwed if they see grade 11 marks more than early grade 12 marks. is this true? and can someone explain the admission date and what marks they look? thank you T.T (+) i've been taking waterloo math contests and computing contests. for pascal, i scored 134 and went on the honour roll on the website. for cayley, didn't do as good but got a school champion medal. for fermat, i forgot and missed it :/ and for canadian computing contest, last year, i got 45/75 (3 questions correct perfectly out of 5) and this year, i think i got 64/75 (4 questions correct perfectly, and number 5... sort of.) would this help me at all to get in to UW CS? ----------------------------------- Manveer Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:08 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- can I ask something? because i'm really confused right now. I'm hoping to go to UW CS.. and i thought i was sending them 6 grade 12 courses (including all required) so i wasn't trying as hard till now (in grade 11 atm), and my early term mark was pretty...bad especially english. but one of my friend said that i apply around october~november, so they put the most focus on the grade 11 marks.. the only grade 12 mark i got so far is advanced functions which i got 93 with final exam 97. I was about to put in adv func, calculus, english, music, computer science, and physics or chemistry for the application but.. i'm so confused. i'm screwed if they see grade 11 marks more than early grade 12 marks. is this true? and can someone explain the admission date and what marks they look? thank you T.T (+) i've been taking waterloo math contests and computing contests. for pascal, i scored 134 and went on the honour roll on the website. for cayley, didn't do as good but got a school champion medal. for fermat, i forgot and missed it :/ and for canadian computing contest, last year, i got 45/75 (3 questions correct perfectly out of 5) and this year, i think i got 64/75 (4 questions correct perfectly, and number 5... sort of.) would this help me at all to get in to UW CS? They look at your Gr 11 marks more than your grade 12? Then im screwed too. I've been dealing with religious issues since late grade 10, and have only studied for about 4 tests total in highschool. My average is 76 (Not done gr 11 yet). Man.... ----------------------------------- Night Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:33 pm RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- They look at your Gr 11 marks more than your grade 12? Only for early-offers, I believe. Midterm update Schools Applied To: Waterloo - Computer Science Guelph - Software Engineering Carleton - Computer Science/Computer Game Development Carleton - Interactive Multimedia and Design (IMD) Application Average: 81.33% Schools Currently Accepted To: Carleton CS - (Mid-February) Carleton IMD - (Mid-Late March, I think) Guelph (Alternate Offer w/o Co-op) - (Last week of March) Additional Information: English midterm: 80% ICS4U - 94% (last year) ----------------------------------- Manveer Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:30 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I don't really need an early offer, i just want to get in next year. I plan on working like no tommorow next year, so hopefully they dont think im cheating or anything when my average goes up 15% Thanks for the info. ----------------------------------- Badsniper Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:05 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Okay, still no reply from Waterloo about Software, but I have been accepted to CS. Average 91.33 Grade 11 marks (that matter) Physics : 87 Math : 91 Computer Science : 98 English : 90 Chemistry : 89 Grade 12 marks (That matter) Physics : 92 Advanced Functions : 92 Calculus : 94* English : 91 Chemistry : 87 Computer Science: 92* * = mid term mark Computer science mark is low because I didn't understand some of the questions in the text... also there were questions on the history of computers on some of our tests... but now I am at (about) a 94. Programming experience: A fair amount. - I know how to use Turing, Java, and C++ and I can make my way through Python and Javascript. I've played with Android development and I've used some game engines to make small games. EC's: Reach for the Top, Senior Band, Percussion Ensemble, Computer Science "team" - boardwide winners of the ECOO, Math tutoring Contests: I did meh on most of the Waterloo contests that I have done to date; as in 37 on the senior and on the Euclid I expect a 55 or so. On the CCC I scored 58 on the Junior, but I was able to get through 3 of the senior questions. So yeah. That's it. ----------------------------------- bscit Wed May 02, 2012 6:09 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- They look at your Gr 11 marks more than your grade 12? Only for early-offers, I believe. Midterm update Schools Applied To: Waterloo - Computer Science Guelph - Software Engineering Carleton - Computer Science/Computer Game Development Carleton - Interactive Multimedia and Design (IMD) Application Average: 81.33% Schools Currently Accepted To: Carleton CS - (Mid-February) Carleton IMD - (Mid-Late March, I think) Guelph (Alternate Offer w/o Co-op) - (Last week of March) Additional Information: English midterm: 80% ICS4U - 94% (last year) Tbh, i dont think you have much of a chance for Waterloo CS unless you have a good AIF. Ive been checking around and people have like 90s and they are applying for computer science, not to mention that they are looking for mid 80s. Good luck anyway. If you do not get accepted to UW, I recommend Carleton. Pretty good for CS. Why didnt you apply for UofT? Okay, still no reply from Waterloo about Software, but I have been accepted to CS. Average 91.33 Grade 11 marks (that matter) Physics : 87 Math : 91 Computer Science : 98 English : 90 Chemistry : 89 Grade 12 marks (That matter) Physics : 92 Advanced Functions : 92 Calculus : 94* English : 91 Chemistry : 87 Computer Science: 92* * = mid term mark Computer science mark is low because I didn't understand some of the questions in the text... also there were questions on the history of computers on some of our tests... but now I am at (about) a 94. Programming experience: A fair amount. - I know how to use Turing, Java, and C++ and I can make my way through Python and Javascript. I've played with Android development and I've used some game engines to make small games. EC's: Reach for the Top, Senior Band, Percussion Ensemble, Computer Science "team" - boardwide winners of the ECOO, Math tutoring Contests: I did meh on most of the Waterloo contests that I have done to date; as in 37 on the senior and on the Euclid I expect a 55 or so. On the CCC I scored 58 on the Junior, but I was able to get through 3 of the senior questions. So yeah. That's it. Gz on your offer for CS. Youll probably make if for SE too. Currently waiting for CS UW but I dont think its going to come anymore. Anyway guys, if you didnt know, Waterloo is doing their Math (Possibly Engineering around if not on) May 10. This will probably be their last round for this year. Good luck to all. ----------------------------------- Night Wed May 02, 2012 7:19 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Tbh, i dont think you have much of a chance for Waterloo CS unless you have a good AIF. Ive been checking around and people have like 90s and they are applying for computer science, not to mention that they are looking for mid 80s. Good luck anyway. If you do not get accepted to UW, I recommend Carleton. Pretty good for CS. Why didnt you apply for UofT? I've been anticipating not receiving an offer from UW after I got my midterms, though on my AIF there's quite a few EC's, and I did "send them" (link/description) some side-projects, so you never know. I've been thinking about Carleton (especially if Guelph doesn't offer me co-op), but I'd just need to decide between CS and Interactive Multimedia for it. As for UofT: it has a nice campus, and apparently program, but when I applied I couldn't see myself going/enjoying it there (I suppose I could have applied anyways and decided later, but too late now). ----------------------------------- Night Sat May 12, 2012 12:13 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Midterm update Schools Applied To: Waterloo - Computer Science Guelph - Software Engineering Carleton - Computer Science/Computer Game Development Carleton - Interactive Multimedia and Design (IMD) Application Average: 81.33% Schools Currently Accepted To: Carleton CS - (Mid-February) Carleton IMD - (Mid-Late March, I think) Guelph (Alternate Offer w/o Co-op) - (Last week of March) Additional Information: English midterm: 80% ICS4U - 94% (last year) Ended up with an Alternate Offer to UW for Honours Geomatics (Co-op). ----------------------------------- Vaughan H. Sat May 12, 2012 11:17 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I'm baffled. I've had high marks (86%) and been rejected. Had a relatively decent AIF, and didn't even receive a secondary to geomatics. How insulting. ----------------------------------- fdwkid Sat May 12, 2012 11:58 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Midterm update Schools Applied To: Waterloo - Computer Science Guelph - Software Engineering Carleton - Computer Science/Computer Game Development Carleton - Interactive Multimedia and Design (IMD) Application Average: 81.33% Schools Currently Accepted To: Carleton CS - (Mid-February) Carleton IMD - (Mid-Late March, I think) Guelph (Alternate Offer w/o Co-op) - (Last week of March) Additional Information: English midterm: 80% ICS4U - 94% (last year) Ended up with an Alternate Offer to UW for Honours Geomatics (Co-op). Hey, do you know Mallika Trivedi? ----------------------------------- fdwkid Sat May 12, 2012 11:59 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I'm baffled. I've had high marks (86%) and been rejected. Had a relatively decent AIF, and didn't even receive a secondary to geomatics. How insulting. This year they said, has a competitive CS they said. ----------------------------------- D_homes Sun May 13, 2012 12:40 am Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Schools Applied To: Waterloo - Computer Science (Co-Op) Guelph - Computer Science (Co-Op) Carleton - Computer Science Honours: Computer Game Development (Co-Op) Ryerson- Computer Science Application Average: 81% Schools Currently Accepted To: Guelph (Alternate Offer w/o Co-op) Carleton -- ($4,000 Entrance Scholarship & Guaranteed Residence) After Midterm Waterloo (Alternate Offer Geomatics w/ Honours & Co-Op) -- After Midterm (Accepted today :D) Ryerson -- After Midterm Additional Information: English : 84% Advanced Functions midterm: 84% (Currently 87%) ICS4U midterm - 97% Calculus midterm: 65% (ouch :vi: -- Currently 70%) I'm planning on attending Carleton in September! ----------------------------------- crossley7 Sun May 13, 2012 6:45 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I've never posted this, but reference for those whom it may benefit Programs applied to: UWaterloo CS Co-op UWaterloo Software Engineering UofT St. George CS I got accepted to all 3 by the end of February Marks Completed ENG 4U - 87 (English) ADA 40 - 95 (Drama) MHF 4U - 98 (Advanced Functions) Midterms SPH 4U - 99 (Physics) SCH 4U - 97 (Chemistry) MCV 4U - 97 (Calculus/Vectors) ICS 4U - 100 (Computer Science) Top Grade 11 Marks SPH 3U - 98 (Physics) SCH 3U - 95 (Chemistry) M?? 3U - 96 (Functions) ICS 3U - 100 (Computer Science) ENG 3U - 88 (English) FSF 3U - 92 (French) [u]Extra Curriculars[u] Stage manager of school musical badminton team chess team programming/math contests Accepted my offer to Waterloo CS just recently. Other notes: CCC Round 2 qualifier (66/75) - results out after all acceptances Euclid (70/100) - written in April ----------------------------------- Night Mon May 14, 2012 6:54 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Hey, do you know Mallika Trivedi? Nope. ----------------------------------- Night Mon May 14, 2012 6:58 pm Re: RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Hey, do you know Mallika Trivedi? Nope. ----------------------------------- QuantumPhysics Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:05 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Wow crossley, you are a genius! Why does everyone want to go into CS? Thats the worst option (personally), seriously you guys all want to work cubicle jobs? Thats not fun. You probably think you will learn every single programming language. WRONG! You will barely learn any actually programming. CS is too general. You should have applied to a course thats more in depth and more fun. Meh, who am I to bargle. It's your life ----------------------------------- crossley7 Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:55 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Keep in mind that CS is flexible. Not general. Also, think of it this way. I could have gone into Software Engineering however my interests reach beyond the realm of computers and CS allows me the flexibility in my courses that SE does not. Anyone who seriously considers CS will know that programming is the means by which we have to do the work, but that is not the focus of the material. I would argue that you can go more in depth with CS than with other majors because of the flexibility in the program. Please inform yourself a bit better before making such a widespread generalization. I would rather choose where I focus my time and get into specifics rather than have them defined for me in my first year of University. There are many people with man different interests. You are asking why everyone wants to go into CS while I would ask why anyone would want to go into Electrical/Computer Engineering. However, I understand that everyone has different interests and so different programs they are looking to pursue. I actually am yet to hear of anyone that would attempt to get or actually get the degree I'm looking for to this point. (Bachelor CS with C&O and Drama minors). On the marks side, these were my final marks in the ones that just had midterms when I last posted. SPH 4U - 95 (Physics) SCH 4U - 94 (Chemistry) MCV 4U - 98 (Calculus/Vectors) ICS 4U - 100 (Computer Science) ----------------------------------- QuantumPhysics Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:47 am Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- School Applied To: York University - Computer Science Carleton University - Networks and Security honor roll Ryerson University - Networks and Security Schools Applied to and really want to get into: - University Of Ontario Institute of Technology - Networking and Information Technology Security - Arizona's Institute of Advanced Technology - Networking and Information Technology Security - University Of Berkeley - Networking and Information Technology Security Current grades (this and next semester) First_ Computer Science - 100 Chemistry - 73 Drama - 94 Advanced Functions - 56 Next_ Law Calculas Media Arts English Extra Admission Benefits CCC Provincials 2011 Recommendation letter from director of University Of BC Large github repository Lot's of experience in the InfoSec and Security/Ethical Hacking field to date UOIT says that the minimum grade average is 60. I think I can raise my math to a little bit above that. I am very worried. ----------------------------------- Dan Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:07 am Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- Well this probably will not be relevant or of interest to any one I thought I would put up my grad school admission averages for this year since I talked about grad school earlier in the thread: Schools Applied To: University of Western Ontario - PhD Computer Science (Theoretical Computer Science) Application Average: High School: No one cares anymore. Undergrad (HBSc CompSci): ~75% (overall average, last 20 credits and core courses average was much higher) Masters (MSc CompSci Thesis Route): ~96% Schools Accepted To: University of Western Ontario - Accepted with 4 years of funding (GTA, GRA, Western Scholarship). Grants: NSERC - Did not apply (missed deadline). OGS - Applied, nominated by faculty, haven't heard back yet on final decision. Additional Information: Had 2 conference papers publish as coauthor, with forthcoming fist authored journal paper. Had contacted a potential supervisor prior to applying. I believe I had strong letters of reference from two professors from the university at which i did my masters. Applied for the "Theoretical Computer Science" option as i was not sure which group the supervisor i wanted fit under, but it looks like I will be switching to "Distributed Systems". Not that it seems to matter much in terms of admissions or the program. ----------------------------------- SareBear Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:17 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- This post is based on my grade 11 average. I will be heading into Computer Science at University of Waterloo or University of Guelph by the end of grade 12. My marks each year in high school have been pretty consistent each year, so I will assume I can keep them the same. Here are my grade 11 marks. All were U level courses. Chemistry: 90% Computer Programming: 87% Physics: 86% English: 80% Religion: 80% Tech Design: 91% Functions: 95% Art: 88% Overall Average: 87% Additional Information: My AIF would turn out pretty bleak, and because of some family commitments I will end up missing the Euclid next year. Though I can try the CCC (I think it's called). Any advice on my odds of admission to uWaterloo would be amazing, thank you for the assistance! ----------------------------------- OhDatNerd Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:06 pm Re: Admission Averages ----------------------------------- This post is based on my grade 11 average. I will be heading into Computer Science at University of Waterloo or University of Guelph by the end of grade 12. My marks each year in high school have been pretty consistent each year, so I will assume I can keep them the same. Here are my grade 11 marks. All were U level courses. Chemistry: 90% Computer Programming: 87% Physics: 86% English: 80% Religion: 80% Tech Design: 91% Functions: 95% Art: 88% Overall Average: 87% Additional Information: My AIF would turn out pretty bleak, and because of some family commitments I will end up missing the Euclid next year. Though I can try the CCC (I think it's called). Any advice on my odds of admission to uWaterloo would be amazing, thank you for the assistance! Depends on if you want to go for co-op or not. If you are, then your chances are a tad slim. A lot of kids with low 90s (90-93) got rejected this past year based on what I've heard. If you're going for regular, then you may have a decent chance. I am, however, just another grade 12 student so my answer may not be that accurate. ----------------------------------- San17 Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:42 am RE:Admission Averages ----------------------------------- I am applying for computer science in waterloo as well. The thing is, I've read a lot about high cutoffs this year (fall 2015) but they're all in %. I've taken IB and I get a score out of 45, not percentage. Any idea how much I'll need in terms of IB score to get into waterloo?