----------------------------------- michaelp Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:16 pm processes at startup? ----------------------------------- On your computer, how many processes are running when you first turn on your computer, without running anything else? For me, it's 42, and I have 512MB of RAM. ----------------------------------- btiffin Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:56 pm Re: processes at startup? ----------------------------------- Win98, 48 meg; 13 exe's and 142 16-bit and 32-bit drivers (less whatever sysinfo may have loaded so I could check, but I excluded the msinfo32.exe from the count). Cheers ----------------------------------- md Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:21 pm RE:processes at startup? ----------------------------------- When I first turn it on? No idea. Right now (normal conditions)? 121, using 353MB of RAM ----------------------------------- michaelp Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:23 pm RE:processes at startup? ----------------------------------- 121! :O When I mean processes, I mean just open up taskmanager and look at the number beside processes. ----------------------------------- Clayton Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:22 pm RE:processes at startup? ----------------------------------- he's using Arch (correct me if I'm wrong), not Windows. The values will be a little off ;) ----------------------------------- Tony Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:43 pm RE:processes at startup? ----------------------------------- At startup, I've got 50 tasks taking up 150 MB of RAM. Maybe 10 of them are associated with my user, the rest obviously makeup the background system. ----------------------------------- md Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:01 pm RE:processes at startup? ----------------------------------- Indeed, Linux is significantly different then windows ;-) Output from ps -AFwH UID PID PPID C SZ RSS PSR STIME TTY TIME CMD root 2 0 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [kthreadd] root 3 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [migration/0] root 4 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [ksoftirqd/0] root 5 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [watchdog/0] root 6 2 0 0 0 1 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [migration/1] root 7 2 0 0 0 1 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [ksoftirqd/1] root 8 2 0 0 0 1 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [watchdog/1] root 9 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [events/0] root 10 2 0 0 0 1 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [events/1] root 11 2 0 0 0 1 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [khelper] root 12 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [kblockd/0] root 13 2 0 0 0 1 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [kblockd/1] root 14 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [kacpid] root 15 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [kacpi_notify] root 16 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [kseriod] root 17 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [pdflush] root 18 2 0 0 0 1 12:08 ? 00:00:02 [pdflush] root 19 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [kswapd0] root 20 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [aio/0] root 21 2 0 0 0 1 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [aio/1] root 22 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [rpciod/0] root 23 2 0 0 0 1 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [rpciod/1] root 542 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [ata/0] root 547 2 0 0 0 1 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [ata/1] root 552 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [ata_aux] root 566 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_0] root 572 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_1] root 663 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_2] root 667 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_3] root 758 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_4] root 761 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_5] root 767 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_6] root 771 2 0 0 0 0 12:08 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_7] root 1118 2 0 0 0 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 [reiserfs/0] root 1119 2 0 0 0 1 12:09 ? 00:00:00 [reiserfs/1] root 1169 2 0 0 0 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 [ksuspend_usbd] root 1175 2 0 0 0 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 [khubd] root 2598 2 0 0 0 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 [kpsmoused] root 3258 2 0 0 0 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 [cx88 tvaudio] root 4084 2 0 0 0 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 [btaddconn] root 4085 2 0 0 0 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 [btdelconn] root 4299 2 0 0 0 0 12:09 ? 00:00:05 [md0_raid5] root 4316 2 0 0 0 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 [md1_raid1] root 4384 2 0 0 0 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 [kjournald] root 1 0 0 414 556 1 12:08 ? 00:00:01 init [3] root 1199 1 0 616 1312 1 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon root 5009 1 0 574 784 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/syslog-ng root 5018 1 0 412 560 1 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/acpid root 5032 1 0 455 264 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/dhcpcd -t 30 -h saxifrage eth0 root 5049 1 0 1338 992 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd root 5069 1 0 422 580 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/crond bin 5085 1 0 441 484 1 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/portmap john 5088 1 0 875 868 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/famd -T 0 -c /etc/fam/fam.conf dbus 5097 1 0 529 868 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system root 5119 1 0 816 1120 0 12:09 ? 00:00:02 hald-addon-input: Listening on /dev/input/event6 /dev/input/event5 /dev/input/event7 /dev/input/event1 /dev/input/event2 root 5122 1 0 873 1500 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-hid-ups: listening on /dev/usb/hiddev0 hal 5125 1 0 500 840 1 12:09 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/acpid.socket root 5143 1 0 816 1028 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-storage: no polling because /dev/sr0 is locked via HAL root 5155 1 0 3444 1604 1 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/gdm-binary root 5156 5155 0 3538 2964 1 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/gdm-binary root 5162 5156 2 13837 49612 1 12:09 tty7 00:13:35 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth vt7 john 12080 5156 0 1183 1384 1 12:12 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc -- /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc john 12097 12080 0 1231 628 1 12:12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent -- startxfce4 john 12115 12080 0 6968 7224 1 12:12 ? 00:00:01 /usr/bin/xfce4-session john 12123 12115 0 4155 8376 1 12:12 ? 00:04:19 xfwm4 --sm-client-id 117f000001000120803188000000038610002 --display :0.0 john 12124 12115 0 17554 16260 0 12:12 ? 00:00:34 xfdesktop --sm-client-id 117f000001000120802883100000036680003 --display :0.0 john 12131 12115 0 7993 11676 1 12:12 ? 00:00:09 xfce4-panel --sm-client-id 117f000001000120803225600000038610004 --display :0.0 john 12133 12131 0 8748 15628 1 12:12 ? 00:00:26 /usr/lib/xfce4/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-menu-plugin socket_id 20971560 name xfce4-menu id 5 display_name Xfce Menu size 28 screen_position 11 john 12135 12131 0 7747 10204 1 12:12 ? 00:04:17 /usr/lib/xfce4/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-mixer-plugin socket_id 20971583 name xfce4-mixer id 12080288902 display_name Volume Control size 28 screen_position 11 john 12134 12115 0 12069 23852 1 12:12 ? 00:04:00 pidgin --session 117f000001000120802891700000036680004 --display :0.0 nobody 5188 1 0 991 1112 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/lighttpd -f /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf nobody 5217 5188 0 3279 4824 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/php-cgi nobody 5232 5217 0 3279 2732 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/php-cgi nobody 5222 5188 0 3279 4824 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/php-cgi nobody 5233 5222 0 3279 2732 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/php-cgi nobody 5223 5188 0 3279 4828 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/php-cgi nobody 5234 5223 0 3279 2736 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/php-cgi nobody 5224 5188 0 3279 4820 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/php-cgi nobody 5231 5224 0 3279 4164 0 12:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/php-cgi root 5191 1 0 605 1132 0 12:09 tty1 00:00:00 /bin/login -- root 5245 5191 0 1229 1820 0 12:09 tty1 00:00:00 -bash root 5192 1 0 414 496 1 12:09 tty2 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty -8 38400 vc/2 linux root 5193 1 0 414 500 0 12:09 tty3 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty -8 38400 vc/3 linux root 5194 1 0 414 500 0 12:09 tty4 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty -8 38400 vc/4 linux root 5195 1 0 414 496 1 12:09 tty5 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty -8 38400 vc/5 linux root 5196 1 0 414 496 1 12:09 tty6 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty -8 38400 vc/6 linux john 12110 1 0 726 676 1 12:12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session john 12112 1 0 1822 3788 0 12:12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/GConf/gconfd-2 6 john 12113 1 0 562 1020 1 12:12 ? 00:00:01 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 6 --print-address 9 --session john 12119 1 0 3924 5708 0 12:12 ? 00:00:10 gnome-screensaver john 12120 1 0 8944 6404 1 12:12 ? 00:00:01 xfce-mcs-manager john 12122 1 0 1680 1324 1 12:12 ? 00:00:00 gnome-keyring-daemon john 12126 1 0 19271 14972 0 12:12 ? 00:00:02 /usr/bin/Thunar --daemon john 12146 1 0 6782 12760 1 12:12 ? 00:00:02 python /usr/share/system-config-printer/applet.py john 12151 1 0 12233 18724 1 12:12 ? 00:02:19 xchat john 12308 1 0 1504 1984 0 12:14 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd john 12313 1 0 7246 1976 0 12:14 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gvfs//gvfs-fuse-daemon /home/john/.gvfs root 12413 1 0 4421 3120 1 12:15 ? 00:00:01 /usr/sbin/cupsd john 12420 1 0 1183 1388 0 12:15 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh /opt/mozilla/bin/firefox3 john 12432 12420 0 1216 1436 1 12:15 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh /opt/mozilla/lib/firefox-3.0b5/run-mozilla.sh /opt/mozilla/lib/firefox-3.0b5/firefox-bin john 12438 12432 3 81138 145868 0 12:15 ? 00:20:30 /opt/mozilla/lib/firefox-3.0b5/firefox-bin john 15529 1 0 914 1172 0 14:48 ? 00:00:01 /usr/bin/bip john 15885 1 4 22169 61460 0 18:49 ? 00:06:10 tvtime john 15890 1 0 7884 10244 0 18:49 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/xfrun4 --daemon john 15916 1 0 2787 3372 0 18:50 ? 00:00:29 conky john 16003 1 0 2602 3600 0 19:18 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/gnome-vfs-daemon john 16270 1 0 8623 14436 0 20:58 ? 00:00:01 /usr/bin/Terminal john 16271 16270 0 643 660 0 20:58 ? 00:00:00 gnome-pty-helper john 16272 16270 0 1293 1748 0 20:58 pts/0 00:00:00 bash john 16285 16272 0 1044 892 1 21:00 pts/0 00:00:00 ps -AFwH ----------------------------------- Dan Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:09 pm RE:processes at startup? ----------------------------------- For my windows side (vista not optimzed and full of crap) i have about 75 proccess taking up about 2.3GB of ram. I will update this post with my linux side when i get a chane to switch to it. ----------------------------------- HellblazerX Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:05 am RE:processes at startup? ----------------------------------- 2.3GB of ram?? Wow how much ram does you comp have? Btw, I have 54 processes using up 545 MB of ram (Vista) ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:23 am Re: RE:processes at startup? ----------------------------------- 2.3GB of ram?? Wow how much ram does you comp have? 4GB, and vista noramly uses up 1/2 your ram no matter what for cacheing things. ----------------------------------- jernst Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:27 am Re: processes at startup? ----------------------------------- 110 - ubuntu (right now not at startup) - 1gb ram ----------------------------------- md Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:48 am Re: processes at startup? ----------------------------------- 110 - ubuntu (right now not at startup) - 1gb ram 1GB used? That's a lot... I only break 1GB in use when I start stitching together large panoramas. Even then... it's rare. ----------------------------------- jernst Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:36 am Re: processes at startup? ----------------------------------- 110 - ubuntu (right now not at startup) - 1gb ram 1GB used? That's a lot... I only break 1GB in use when I start stitching together large panoramas. Even then... it's rare. oh no not 1gb used, thats how much i have lol, using 400mb ----------------------------------- Dragan Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:47 am RE:processes at startup? ----------------------------------- 28 - winxp, I have 512mb ram