----------------------------------- cavetroll Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:17 am Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- I have an assignment for my careers class where I have to find 5 universities (or programs) that I would like to go. I know I want to go to Waterloo but I still need 4 others. I added U of T because I heard their program is good. My question is, besides Waterloo and U of T, what other schools are good for computer science? ----------------------------------- jernst Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:22 am Re: Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- Do you want canadiam / ontario schools or are you including american schools too? ----------------------------------- cavetroll Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:23 am RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- No, just Canadian schools. Sorry, I should have posted that. ----------------------------------- jernst Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:28 am Re: Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- MIT, UCLA, Carnegie Mellon are the ones I hear about in the states alot for comp sci. Actually I think Waterloo's nickname is MIT of the north. If your interested in anything else around here, I go to Guelph for Comp Sci and I've found it to be alot better than I expected. I also saw a talk on research out at Dalhousie University in Halifax and it seemed like a decent place also. ----------------------------------- Tony Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:48 am RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- @jernst, you've got it wrong. MIT is nicknamed Waterloo of the south :lol: Also, there are a few reviews on the /blog [url=http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Acompsci.ca%2Fblog+%22computer+science+at%22+%2B+university]found as such. It's still a work in progress. ----------------------------------- jernst Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:04 pm Re: RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- @jernst, you've got it wrong. MIT is nicknamed Waterloo of the south :lol: Also, there are a few reviews on the /blog haha thats right, thanks for the correcton :P ----------------------------------- cavetroll Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:38 pm RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- Thanks for the posts. This will really help. Still hope I get into Waterloo though. ----------------------------------- Dan Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:28 pm RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- Don't forget about lakehead, we might be small but we got lots of cool CS stuff like a VR lab, realy advaced class rooms and some supper computers! ----------------------------------- Tony Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:58 pm RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- Also, Lakehead's bears eat Waterloo's geese for breakfast! ----------------------------------- iluvchairs112 Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:40 pm RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- Windsor's got a pretty good CS program ----------------------------------- Nick Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:50 pm RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- on the topic of Lakehead, how much would a 4 year admission be to CS? if you can could you provide an estimate on campus, off campus, and no residental please? ----------------------------------- Robert Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:09 pm RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- I've heard MacMaster has pretty good computer science / software engineering departments. You might also want to look up the University of Calgary. There's a technology sector developing in Calgary, and I'm sure the Univeristy of Calgary has had some influence on that. I also have a few cousins going to UOIT, which is a fairly new school. I don't know much about it, though. ----------------------------------- Dan Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:23 pm Re: RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- on the topic of Lakehead, how much would a 4 year admission be to CS? if you can could you provide an estimate on campus, off campus, and no residental please? Including student union fees, and all the other fees unis tack on but noramly don't list in the amount on there website it cost $5,098.35 in tution for this year (note that tution goes up by a cerent % per year). So for 4 years at that rate it is $20,393.4 The best rez (the apartments) is about $5,000 per year. The other rez styles are cheaper but require you to buy a meal plan (other then the town house style). Books cost anywhere from $500 to $1000 per semester (tho it can be even cheaper if you get internation edtion text books and do not buy from the book store). For comparsion, waterloo's tution for 1st year computer sci none co-op is $7,468 a year (acording to there website and not including hidden fees) and comes out to $29,872 for 4 years. (about $33,664.32 with hidden fees i blive). ----------------------------------- Nick Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:03 pm RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- thanks Dan that's sounding like my best option so far since money is a problem, one more question though: on average how much would co-op take down the cost per year and how often would one work for co-op? ----------------------------------- Tony Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:16 pm RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- Co-op is not the same for everybody. First of all the expense -- at UW co-op comes with a ~$500 per term fee (but you get to use their job database and interview center). You work for 6 terms, 4 months each. Assuming a starting rate of $16/hour with 40 hour weeks, you make about $11,000 per term. Of course there are expenses like income tax and cost of living during the work terms, but it's quite reasonable to have co-op cover all your expenses by the time you graduate. ----------------------------------- rdrake Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:30 pm Re: RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- I also have a few cousins going to UOIT, which is a fairly new school. I don't know much about it, though.Ask away! ----------------------------------- Nick Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:39 pm RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- thanks Dan and Tony you both help in my decision of a school rdrake, how much is it costing you for UOIT? ----------------------------------- rdrake Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:53 pm Re: RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- rdrake, how much is it costing you for UOIT?$9000/year would be a generous estimate including tuition, the laptop, books, food, and whatever other hidden fees every school has. I'm not sure it's quite that high, but better safe than sorry I guess. ----------------------------------- A.J Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:39 pm Re: Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- for out-of-canada universities, i heard that UCBerkley is pretty amazing ----------------------------------- Noam Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:05 pm Re: RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- Co-op is not the same for everybody. First of all the expense -- at UW co-op comes with a ~$500 per term fee (but you get to use their job database and interview center). You work for 6 terms, 4 months each. Assuming a starting rate of $16/hour with 40 hour weeks, you make about $11,000 per term. Of course there are expenses like income tax and cost of living during the work terms, but it's quite reasonable to have co-op cover all your expenses by the time you graduate. $16 is a good starting rate to assume, but you might want to go with a lower rate of pay (some first term jobs pay as low as $10), just in case, so you can plan for the worst in your calculations. :) In any case, here are the [url=http://www.cecs.uwaterloo.ca/students/salary.php]salary surveys for the UW co-op program. Hope it helps. ----------------------------------- Tony Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:14 pm RE:Other than Waterloo? ----------------------------------- Obviously it's all over the place. Notice how the low range of students in their 4rd term make less that low range in 2nd or 3rd? Heh. I actually know someone who ended up working for less than $10/hour, but those cases are rare. Research the company, ask questions during the interview, negotiate for the rate, and ultimately don't be afraid to turn down a low paying job (although there's more to this, research the subject well).