----------------------------------- bugzpodder Wed Jul 02, 2003 11:21 pm POSSIBLE Massey CompSci Reform!! ----------------------------------- I have some news that you might be interested in. If and I mean IF all goes well the new teacher and I have rearranged the items that we will be teaching in the programming classes. We want to try VB at the grade 10 level - TIK. Turing at grade 11 - ICE and ICS, and either Java or C++ ( if it works) at the grade 12 level. Should this occur we will be able to enter the contests using the appropriate language. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ross B. Ferrara ----------------------------------- Asok Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:35 am ----------------------------------- cut out 4 languages and you have Metro Prep's curriculum! *looks for a guillotine* ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Thu Jul 03, 2003 6:59 am ----------------------------------- sounds sickening bugz.. ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Thu Jul 03, 2003 7:00 am ----------------------------------- i'm in favor of doing the java at the grade 12 level.. just my input.. ----------------------------------- krishon Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:49 am ----------------------------------- our school does java in grade 12 and c++ in grade 11 ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Thu Jul 03, 2003 9:00 am ----------------------------------- Im in favor of doing java or C++ in grade 12 also btw, who is our new teacher? ----------------------------------- Mazer Thu Jul 03, 2003 9:25 am ----------------------------------- that sounds good. it's still a bit disappointing though. it seems that ferrara will still be teaching gr 12? someone, say it ain't so. ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Jul 03, 2003 9:45 am ----------------------------------- who posted that message? mr. farerra or jack? ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Jul 03, 2003 10:01 am ----------------------------------- and asian_sensation if that happens we're screwed!!!! our game!!!! are we gonna start or not... ----------------------------------- bugzpodder Thu Jul 03, 2003 11:24 am ----------------------------------- it doesnt matter, c++ or java, JUST NOT TURING!!!!!!! yeah i copy and pasted this ----------------------------------- Mazer Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:01 pm ----------------------------------- well, if ferrara is teaching i just hope he doesn't make us go so slow with really basic and useless stuff. and if the other guy is teaching... i hope he's more like smyth and nothing like ferrara. ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:18 pm ----------------------------------- nooo i want java:( for grade 12... and waaaaaa mr. ferrara :( :( ----------------------------------- naoki Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:29 pm ----------------------------------- well i'm throwing out my turing training damn, what a shock. and still no real confirmation on the definite language or our teacher? man .... :evil: ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:33 pm ----------------------------------- nooo i want java:( for grade 12... and waaaaaa mr. ferrara :( :( arent you learning java in that toronto camp? you really want to learn java over again from scratch? but then again, you also know c++, so it will be learning from scratch over again. Oh well, I guess I better start doing some C++ then ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:42 pm ----------------------------------- cant you EVER NOT broadcast things to the world? sheesh dont you think i might have my reasons for wanting java.. what toronto camp what the hell are you talking about.. ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Jul 03, 2003 5:08 pm ----------------------------------- asian sensation what about our final project!!!! and ferarra is not teaching us nxt year ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Thu Jul 03, 2003 5:18 pm ----------------------------------- asian sensation what about our final project!!!! and ferarra is not teaching us nxt year he isnt!!! how do you know? ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Jul 03, 2003 5:25 pm ----------------------------------- he told me... he's the business department head so he had to teach a couple of business courses, plus the 5 gr 11 compscis he has no room ----------------------------------- Mazer Thu Jul 03, 2003 6:01 pm ----------------------------------- omg! tell me you aren't kidding! really?! wow! ----------------------------------- naoki Thu Jul 03, 2003 6:09 pm ----------------------------------- azn_s doesn't understand subtlety .... or deceit woot man i hope ferrera gets a lot of classes, just so he dun have to teach us :roll: woot! hope mr.ing teaches us! ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Jul 03, 2003 6:59 pm ----------------------------------- nope not ing either, he got some new guy... ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:45 pm ----------------------------------- well, if we are learning a new language, then we don't have to worry about the game now right? I mean wha's the point, just learn some basic syntax and be on your way. well, at least we are not doing the game in turing... would we be learning OpenGL then? If we have a game type final project then they should teach it to us. ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Thu Jul 03, 2003 9:46 pm ----------------------------------- i strongly doubt that.. but maybe ----------------------------------- Mazer Fri Jul 04, 2003 7:11 am ----------------------------------- yeah, they're probably not going to teach us any opengl. there are probably many simpler graphics libraries for c++ out there and there are probably even more stupid kids that are going to take grade 12 computer science. though i'm sure they won't stop us from using opengl for our final projects because that would just be gay with a capital 'gay' ----------------------------------- bugzpodder Fri Jul 04, 2003 11:20 am ----------------------------------- what makes you guys think the course is gonna be graphics oriented? in my opinion, the course is going to heavily focus on syntax and algoirithms and data structures rather than graphics! The grade 12 course Mr. Smyth taught was like that! stuff i would expect in the course: classes, linked lists/queues,recursion, sorting, searching, structs, optimization,... ----------------------------------- Mazer Fri Jul 04, 2003 11:28 am ----------------------------------- i wasn't trying to suggest/imply/assume that the course would be graphics oriented. but since the end of year projects tend to be games or at least slightly graphic dependant i figure people would need to know how to do graphics in c++ (or whatever we end up using). ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Fri Jul 04, 2003 12:31 pm ----------------------------------- yeah, I don't mind if we do algorithms and data structures and all that, but just like mazer said, unless we are doing some kind of programming challenge for final project, then it will most likely be a game, and what better than using OpenGL for the graphics for the game? ----------------------------------- bugzpodder Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:35 pm ----------------------------------- all will be revealed in due time......... oh btw dont go tumbling down OpenGL stuff just now (unless you are really interested -- to me that stuff isnt too much useful except in games of course, and i doubt that it will be taught in school -- it aint easy), b/c we might end up doing java or not doing either c++ or java. you never know... (i dont think turing and java supports OpenGl :D) ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:55 pm ----------------------------------- i want java! i want java! i want java! i want java! i want java! i want java! i want java! i want java! i want java! i want java! i want java! i want java! ----------------------------------- Mazer Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:58 pm ----------------------------------- hey guys, i think SilverSprite is trying to tell us something! what is it, boy? did timmy fall in the well? ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:59 pm ----------------------------------- haha yeah ok ----------------------------------- Crono Wed Jul 16, 2003 3:42 pm ----------------------------------- yea, street on the wordz is tat bugz will b teachin the 2 gr 12 comp sci's, it's gonna b kickin, start payin him money now so u can get good marx if it wuz me, i'd fail dodge, azn_s just fo bein ugly... i only got 2 gr9 enriched math, how comes bugz gets all the fun classes :( ----------------------------------- naoki Wed Jul 16, 2003 5:02 pm ----------------------------------- hmm ..... looks like another massey kid has joined the ranks but this crono .. seems older than us ....... how ... interesting :wink: altho i kinda doubt that they'd let bugsy here teach gr12 compsci. good he is ... but he's lacking quite a few things. like for example, a teacher's certificate, adequate training, and ... oh yeah ... years of training to become a teacher but other than that, he's more than qualified :lol: ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Wed Jul 16, 2003 5:13 pm ----------------------------------- I won't share give out real names here, but naoki, you can guess who he is, he is one of the only people who got perfect in the Open contest, and from what I've seen, a pretty good break dancer too :o ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:55 am ----------------------------------- ..if it wuz me, i'd fail dodge, azn_s just fo bein ugly... haha i agree completely.. hahahahaahaha its funny cuz its true ahhahaha(should i be laughing/talking?) I won't share give out real names here, but naoki, you can guess who he is, he is one of the only people who got perfect in the Open contest, and from what I've seen, a pretty good break dancer too wow sucking up so early?? school hasnt even started yet... can you wait a few months before you start to kiss ass again? ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:54 am ----------------------------------- heh heh, sucking up gives you advantages, many many advantages... you never know if you need help from Crono, might as well prepare early :D ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Thu Jul 17, 2003 2:43 pm ----------------------------------- okkkkk buddy.. you get much much more out of being nice.. plus nobody likes suckups.. their frickin annoying.. ----------------------------------- UBC_Wiskatos Thu Jul 17, 2003 4:37 pm ----------------------------------- heh heh, sucking up gives you advantages, many many advantages... you never know if you need help from Crono, might as well prepare early :D Man, if you're going to be a dork, at least act like you're not proud of it. Even geeks will shun you. ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Thu Jul 17, 2003 5:47 pm ----------------------------------- ugh...people don't understand sarcasm.... and there doesn't seem to be a emoticon that portrays sarcasm... and typing sarcasm afterward is just plain stupid.... ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Thu Jul 17, 2003 6:05 pm ----------------------------------- that was sarcastic? well your portrayal of yourself is pretty true