----------------------------------- Amailer Tue Jul 01, 2003 1:40 am B.NET IS (@!K#D! ----------------------------------- http://www.battle.net/forums/thread.aspx?FN=clanhall&T=9754&P=1&ReplyCount=53#post9754 !!!!!!!!!!OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----------------------------------- Asok Tue Jul 01, 2003 2:30 am ----------------------------------- I don't quite see what the fuss is about. 1.10 brought a whole shitload of clan related stuff ie. tournaments and an actual clan infrastructure. EDIT: Ah I see, d2 and SC clans got booted from their channels. Many of them complaining that they need to reorganize the entire clan now. What a bunch of whiners. They should all be on their knees thanking blizzard for giving them so many hours of entertainment. Oh well, I could care less. ----------------------------------- PaddyLong Tue Jul 01, 2003 10:55 am ----------------------------------- lol they need to reorganize their entire clans?? what do their entire clans sit in the channels 24/7 saying their rank over and over? ... well maybe they are running some bot or something, but I doubt they'd have to reorganize their entire clans hehe lol that first post the guy is just crying because he has to change his channel name LOL what an idiot ----------------------------------- Tony Tue Jul 01, 2003 1:57 pm ----------------------------------- I'm more pissed about how they keep on delaying D2x v1.10 patch :evil: heck, they gonna finish Ghost and WoW before that patch ----------------------------------- Amailer Tue Jul 01, 2003 2:22 pm ----------------------------------- people are complaining because 1) Bnet did not give a warning about what they were going to do. 2) Clan owners...well... its kinda stupid they are almost 40 years old and they have been playing on SC/D2 etc since they where well...16? 14? 13? IDK, and they don't want to leave their clans and etc. + leave SC/D2 and go to WW3. to make their clans there ----------------------------------- UBC_Wiskatos Tue Jul 01, 2003 2:50 pm Re: B.NET IS (@!K#D! ----------------------------------- http://www.battle.net/forums/thread.aspx?FN=clanhall&T=9754&P=1&ReplyCount=53#post9754 !!!!!!!!!!OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, we'll see, the top Blizzard founders have left the company just last week, and Microsoft is looking into buying Vivendi (the parent company), so Blizzard.net might become a part of the MSN Gaming Zone. I don't know, I never particularly got into the whole Blizzard gaming scene, StarCraft was OK, I don't like WarCraft III though. ----------------------------------- Amailer Tue Jul 01, 2003 2:56 pm ----------------------------------- Yes well i left SC onyl my friends play it....I USED to play WAR3 hehe, but now i don't cuz its not even installed, i only play BF 1942. And i never knew the thing about Blizzards top founders left hmm very odd, well i can't blame them. Looking at what is going on BNET...first of all SC/BW D/D2 ...IS SUCH an old game! And the servers are running for so long...its kinda blizzards fault that they did not put a dead line of when their servers are going to shut down, unline WestWood games, check generals ( boring game ) has a date of when their internet server will shutdown...since no one can keep their servers running for ever. If bnet shuts down the SC/BW server i guess people are going to get mad/crazy and maby sue them :) BTW, UBC_Wiskatos why are you always as a hidden user? ----------------------------------- Asok Tue Jul 01, 2003 3:36 pm ----------------------------------- 2) Clan owners...well... its kinda stupid they are almost 40 years old and they have been playing on SC/D2 etc since they where well...16? 14? 13? IDK, and they don't want to leave their clans and etc. + leave SC/D2 and go to WW3. to make their clans there wtf are you talking about? seriously this point makes no sense none of those games are more than 10 years old. Amailer please get your facts together. ----------------------------------- Amailer Tue Jul 01, 2003 3:38 pm ----------------------------------- hhee ok mistake, but i DID KNOW people who where 40 years old ( STUPID PEOPLE, S)T-TIGER!) ----------------------------------- Tony Tue Jul 01, 2003 3:46 pm ----------------------------------- Man, if b.net would become a part of MSN gaming zone... that would suck soo much. M$ should stay away from Blizzard. (Not like Blizzard has an option... its all about the money anyway... ownership of it changed soo many times). As for the servers, they are the same for SC/D2 and W3. Besides, a lot of people still play SC/BW and even more play D2X (will they ever finish the damn patch?!). They said they gonna have dedicated servers for WoW though. Whats messed is that they're taking something away from SC/D2 and giving it to W3 alone, though before "clan" type channels were available to all. Its not big of a change, just changes the name of channel for SC/D2... Its the fact that they did this without warning... meh, I'm not in any clans, I just want them to finish v1.10 patch for D2X already :evil: ----------------------------------- krishon Tue Jul 01, 2003 4:24 pm ----------------------------------- maybe blizzards bluffing so ppl would get rid of duped crap...but damn...with the patch, necros can do over 4000 with bone spear...that's nuts ----------------------------------- Tony Tue Jul 01, 2003 5:49 pm ----------------------------------- serious? Does that mean Bone Spirit can be maxed to 8000? that'd be sick ----------------------------------- Asok Tue Jul 01, 2003 6:44 pm ----------------------------------- heh necros are cool I played on my friends account (played/stole, same thing ;) ), he had a massive twinked lvl 99 necro, I had about 30+ revived cows, it was awesome, like I was in a slaughter house. :) oh btw 1.10 introduces an easter egg where the amazon, sorceress or assassin starts lap dancing. It's not official but I know people at Blizzard North so I'll take it for face value. ----------------------------------- Asok Tue Jul 01, 2003 7:12 pm ----------------------------------- In a statement, Blizzard Entertainment said Blizzard North co-founders Erich Schaefer, Max Schaefer and David Brevik, along with a fourth employee, Bill Roper, "resigned from the company to pursue other opportunities." The rest of the report can be found here: http://www.diabloii.net/pressdesk/030630.php ----------------------------------- Amailer Tue Jul 01, 2003 7:15 pm ----------------------------------- If i was working for blizzard for so long..i would do the same thing :) Just by thinking of the complains/phone calls/emails the company would be getting. ----------------------------------- Tony Tue Jul 01, 2003 11:31 pm ----------------------------------- grr... this sucks... if blizzard will go down in next couple of month, I'll be seriosly considering a bioinformatics degree instead of compsci... or physics... its always fun. ----------------------------------- rizzix Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:03 am ----------------------------------- i'll still try in for Apple or Sun. But i think i might forget compsci all together and land up as an engineer, hopefully IBM. ----------------------------------- Catalyst Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:22 am ----------------------------------- ah decisions,descisions compsci or physics or chem or medicine ----------------------------------- rizzix Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:24 am ----------------------------------- compsci: easy stuff physics & chem: fun stuff medicine: responsibility :x ----------------------------------- Tony Wed Jul 02, 2003 1:36 am ----------------------------------- would that make bioinformatics an easy responsibility? :? ----------------------------------- Amailer Wed Jul 02, 2003 1:39 am ----------------------------------- what really is bioinformating? ----------------------------------- Tony Wed Jul 02, 2003 3:03 am ----------------------------------- typo, it was suppost to be "bioinformatics" a split degree between biology and computer science. There's some crazy stuff to learn. I'd imagine its programming to work with bio data or what not... I suppost genome mapping would fall in this category, or some tech like cat-scans... Though I'm making this stuff up, dont know how much is true. But ether way you put it... once we know how to clone, I'll be the one programming machines that do that :lol: ----------------------------------- PaddyLong Wed Jul 02, 2003 8:43 am ----------------------------------- heh, if they allow you to clone... all the people are like no no we can't play god or whatever some bs like :roll: with the cloning and genetically modifying and so on... but really they are just idiots because they are not looking at the good things that can come from them... but really to not go into compsci just because blizzard shuts down is absurd ----------------------------------- Amailer Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:55 am ----------------------------------- what has bilzzard have to do with compsci? you wanna join them....? ----------------------------------- PaddyLong Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:24 am ----------------------------------- if blizzard will go down in next couple of month, I'll be seriosly considering a bioinformatics degree instead of compsci... or physics... its always fun. is what I was referring to... ----------------------------------- JayLo Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:39 am ----------------------------------- i have a friend who's going to 'biomedical computing' at Queens... probably the same thing as bioinformatics/ ----------------------------------- PaddyLong Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:48 am ----------------------------------- go cyborg! ----------------------------------- Tony Wed Jul 02, 2003 3:43 pm ----------------------------------- well this mess is clearing up a bit... Those guys were not treated good by their owners (the Vsomething company) and been trying to sell Blizzard for a while now... So they desided to resign and start a new company :D Heck, I would have probably done the same thing. With potential buyers as M$ or EA... Poor guys :( well I'll be interested in what those guys can come up with now... and whats going to happen to Blizzard :? And yes, for a while I did see Blizzard as the goal of programming career untill now... now I donno what to belive in anymore :? ----------------------------------- Amailer Wed Jul 02, 2003 3:57 pm ----------------------------------- Ah don't join billzzard....join EA :) ----------------------------------- PaddyLong Wed Jul 02, 2003 5:13 pm ----------------------------------- yeah man... there's plenty of opportunities out there fro programming.. I mean what would you have done had you gone into compsci and then didn't get a job at blizzard? you would most likely move on to a different company ----------------------------------- krishon Wed Jul 02, 2003 5:30 pm ----------------------------------- tho with his skillz tony has a good chance, i mean had sry ----------------------------------- Asok Wed Jul 02, 2003 5:40 pm ----------------------------------- well not currently, Blizzard only accepts applicants with at least 2 years experience in the gaming industry. ----------------------------------- PaddyLong Wed Jul 02, 2003 6:18 pm ----------------------------------- that's what it's like for most of the major ones... look for experience... that's why coop in college/university is so great, because you get hired on coop and if you do good they keep you and you can get the experience you need to get other jobs ----------------------------------- Tony Wed Jul 02, 2003 7:23 pm ----------------------------------- i think waterloo's coop is teaching compsci in local highschools or something... I sure hope that I'm wrong :wink: but ether way... Everything so far in my life (including taking up compsci and creating this site) was by random events that just "happen", so we'll see where I'll end up :lol: ----------------------------------- Amailer Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:46 pm ----------------------------------- http://www.battle.net/war3/ladder/war3-player-profile.aspx?Gateway=Azeroth&PlayerName= YOUR AZEROTH PLAY NAME HERE FOR WAR3 ----------------------------------- PaddyLong Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:52 pm ----------------------------------- i think waterloo's coop is teaching compsci in local highschools or something... I sure hope that I'm wrong :wink: as far as I know it's not... you know those fancy pdas.. the blackberries... those are made in waterloo and I think a lot of the staff there are waterloo coop students. and also, one of my teachers did coop in a compsci degree at waterloo and apparently he came out debt free... so I don't think you would make enough to come out of university dept free from teaching :/ of course, there probably is the option of teaching at local high schools... but almost definately not the only option ----------------------------------- Tony Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:05 pm ----------------------------------- awesome! As long as I dont get stuck trying to explain for-loops to some people who took compsci just to play in games on computers... I'm happy... ----------------------------------- Amailer Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:11 pm ----------------------------------- How much do the people (artists) get payed for a game? is it more then the people who do the scripting for the game? ----------------------------------- UBC_Wiskatos Thu Jul 03, 2003 10:34 pm ----------------------------------- GamaSutra.com has current salary amounts, I believe. ----------------------------------- krishon Fri Jul 04, 2003 11:01 am ----------------------------------- i'd guess ppl who script....its much harder than drawing...even though the art is purty hard ----------------------------------- Tony Fri Jul 04, 2003 12:24 pm ----------------------------------- really depends on what kind of drawing you doing... can range from doing props to add details to envirnment (say a book to be placed on table) to HQ cinematics (Blizzard's cinematics are CRAZY). Besides, there's quite some scripting to animate the stuff the way you want. You guys remember that huge fighting scene in LOTR: Two Towers? a 600,000 line program was writen to animate that (+ all the super detailed models... its crazy) ----------------------------------- Catalyst Fri Jul 04, 2003 12:44 pm ----------------------------------- i read an article about that scene, apprently in the next movie there will be a scene (using a similar engine) with more that 100 000 troops ----------------------------------- Asok Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:07 pm ----------------------------------- damn I have got to see that movie. :D ----------------------------------- krishon Fri Jul 04, 2003 5:21 pm ----------------------------------- lol, asok just wants to see the dead rotting bodies and the blood ----------------------------------- Asok Fri Jul 04, 2003 6:05 pm ----------------------------------- OMG DEAD BODIES TOO?!