----------------------------------- bugzpodder Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:53 pm new notebook ----------------------------------- since martin's emachine thing was crap (overheating, screen flickering, way too heavy, etc) im probably going to get this. [url=http://www.buy.com/retail/Product.asp?sku=202760622&SearchEngine=NexTag&SearchTerm=202760622&Type=PE&Category=Comp&Gad=0&dcaid=15894]link i dont really need anything spectacular at this moment. I think this well do, look like a good deal. besides i think its pointless to get anything high end at this moment. might as well wait for the intel's new chipset next year optimized for vista (no linux for me ^.^) ----------------------------------- Panopticon Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:57 am ----------------------------------- I should warn you about modern notebooks: they're not called "laptops" anymore for a reason. Unless the machine's equipped with a mobile CPU and video card, it's liable to make a whole bunch of noise when on, last the whole of one hour on batteries, and also sterilize you if you set it on your lap. ----------------------------------- Windsurfer Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:24 am ----------------------------------- ... and also sterilize you if you set it on your lap. Most of the time, that isn't permanent. But in the rare case... well, everyone knows about that exploding dell laptop. ----------------------------------- bugzpodder Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:00 am ----------------------------------- tell me about it... my current machine burns at least 50 degrees celsius... I think its time for me to take it apart aand clean the fan or something. but i guess that have to wait till my exams are over though. ----------------------------------- Andy Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:16 am ----------------------------------- err i dont think any notebooks can take "nonmobile" video cards, and most notebooks are sold with an mobile processor including the one bugz is looking at. ----------------------------------- Windsurfer Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:22 am ----------------------------------- err i dont think any notebooks can take "nonmobile" video cards, and most notebooks are sold with an mobile processor including the one bugz is looking at. Aha, yeah, there are some monsters that have PCI-E vid-cards, and some laptops that have desktop processors.... For instance, my dad's laptop has a 3.2 ghz 478 pin (intel) in his 12 pound monster. I don't know why he needs it, he only goes on ebay and checks his email. Also, look at some Alienware beasts with their desktop components: http://www.alienware.com/product_pages/notebook_all_default.aspx ----------------------------------- Andy Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:27 am ----------------------------------- err just because its pci-e interface doesnt mean its not a mobile videocard... an x1600 for notebook isnt the same as an x1600 for desktop, the desktop one uses a R530 VPU, while the notebook one uses M56. my notebook uses a geforce 6600 128mb pci-e videocard, and it doesnt get that hot at all ----------------------------------- we64 Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:14 pm ----------------------------------- I think for laptops, it is best to get a 1 gig memory right away, since the hard drive is slow, and the video card shares some. Personally, 512 mb is not good enough for me; takes so long to load stuff. ----------------------------------- Andy Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:41 pm ----------------------------------- I think for laptops, it is best to get a 1 gig memory right away, since the hard drive is slow, and the video card shares some. Personally, 512 mb is not good enough for me; takes so long to load stuff. slow as in 7200rpm sata? ----------------------------------- bugzpodder Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:57 pm ----------------------------------- dam this deal just gets better. $750 US for amd turion 64 1.6G dual core, 1GB RAM, 120GB disk with a free printer and router (well all after rebate i guess)... I am really tempted to get one now... mod edit: holy fucking URLs ----------------------------------- Andy Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:53 pm ----------------------------------- wow yeah that does seem like a pretty sweet deal. the hard drive is 5400rpm sata, so you'll be fine in terms of drive speed. my only concern with this model is that it uses a xpress 1100 igp.. it's fine if you dont plan on playing anygames more graphics intensive than CS ----------------------------------- we64 Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:11 pm ----------------------------------- I thought even SATA2 is not even fast enough compare to memory itself. ----------------------------------- Andy Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:41 pm ----------------------------------- no you're right, disk access will always be slower than memory acess (thats why i dont paging files). but my point was 7200 rpm is the standard speed for highend laptops now, notebook disk access speeds arent much slower than desktop ones ----------------------------------- we64 Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:06 pm ----------------------------------- yeah well, 7200 rmp will cost your battery life though. ----------------------------------- Andy Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:19 pm ----------------------------------- not by much. many benchmarks were done comparing 7.2k vs 5.4k hdd and the battery life are almost identical ----------------------------------- we64 Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:54 pm ----------------------------------- I always wonder about Asus and Acer's qualities for laptops. Asus is fairly new, and by looking at their other products qualities, I think the laptops should be just as good. However, I haven't actually seen anyone use them. Even though the benchmarks and tests have shown it is great, but the quality can't be easily tested. Acer's cheap price makes me think of poor quality, but I wonder what is the real experience with Acer. ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:59 pm ----------------------------------- I have an asus z71v and its running great! a couple of my friends have the z70v and never had any problems with it. the only problem i had with my laptop was with the battery not charging properly, but asus' waranty was amazing, they paid for both way 1 day shipping. ----------------------------------- we64 Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:12 pm ----------------------------------- where are the retailers? I dont' see anyone sell those, do you only buy them online? ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:33 pm ----------------------------------- yes, the whitebook (built on asus) versions are usually only available online, but you should be able to find asus ensemble laptops at canada computers.