----------------------------------- TokenHerbz Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:53 am Adding a HardDrive... and RAM ----------------------------------- Firstly, i would like only people who know what they are doing to answer me. Now, to explain my curiousity. Well as you all may, or may not know, i got a new computer which is why i can play WoW, and my old computer has my Turing, programming, and other various information on it of interest to me... So i took apart my old computer, I took out the Hard drive, and the ram (SDRAM), Now, i was to know if i can put this into my new computer.. I am lead to believe i can, though i think i remember somthing in school about a "code" you have to change to make the drive secondary, so its not as easy as hooking up the cables, and will old SDRAM work on my new mother board? most likely righT? Anyways, just want to know if i can hook up my OLD HD to my NEW COMP to access its information, but leaving my current HD as primary... If you know what i mean about a code, you'll know its at the back of the HD where the cables connect: my code is currently [:] : [:] : . [] being the white connectors in position: It's been a while since i took this class, so im not sure if it even matters, but i thought id make sure first, i do not want to mess things up... Also to install SDRAM, do i put it in STRAIGHT, or is this the one you put in on an angle?? i remeber installing ram's in school, but i forget everything, its been YEARS :S... I hope to get my HD up and working, to retreive my programming, and make a great game on my spear time. Thanks for reading, Bye. ----------------------------------- Mazer Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:49 am ----------------------------------- On the back of the hard drive above the jumpers (or on top, on the label) there should be a diagram telling you which ones choose between MASTER, SLAVE, and CABLE SELECT (is there another I'm forgetting?). You'll want to pick SLAVE. As for the RAM, depending on how old it is you may not be able to fit it into the motherboard. And as I remember if you have two sticks of RAM at different clock speeds, they'll all run as fast as the slowest stick. Is the extra RAM really necessary? ----------------------------------- r.3volved Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:01 pm ----------------------------------- If it's a brand new motherboard, then chances are 99% that sdram will not work with it. Even if it has slots for DDR and SDRAM, you can only use one type at a time. SD is old, slow and junky. What model motherboard is it?? ----------------------------------- TokenHerbz Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:04 pm ----------------------------------- Aws, well it appears the older Hard Drive is not compatible with the new computer.. ----------------------------------- Andy Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:39 pm ----------------------------------- ehh? what hard drive is it? is it ide? unless its ridiculously old, it will work with your new computer ----------------------------------- TokenHerbz Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:56 pm ----------------------------------- no the connecters on my comp arn't the same as the hard drive used in my old come, thus i think it really is "rediculusly" old... Anyways, and other ideas how i can get the 9GB off it onto this comp? ----------------------------------- Mazer Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:12 pm ----------------------------------- That doesn't seem right... can you show us pictures? If not of your motherboard, then pictures of a different motherboard that can show us your problem. I don't think there are any mobos that don't support IDE drives... ----------------------------------- timmytheturtle Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:48 pm ----------------------------------- no the connecters on my comp arn't the same as the hard drive used in my old come By that I think he means his hard drive uses SATA to connect to the motherboard. Unless this old hard drive is a SCSI drive Anyways, and other ideas how i can get the 9GB off it onto this comp? If you have a router. Connect both PC's to it and setup a network share and transfer them that way, or connecting them to a router and setting up an FTP server on the old one, and download them to your new one. ----------------------------------- TokenHerbz Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:32 pm ----------------------------------- Bah all your SDI CIBC Lingo of hardware. Simply put i can connect the old hard dribe to my new computer. Now, A router would be the same as a modem right? So how do i plug them both into the modem, and the access one comp from the other? I need a walk threw here please. I really needs this Hard drive info... ----------------------------------- timmytheturtle Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:44 pm ----------------------------------- Now, A router would be the same as a modem right? So how do i plug them both into the modem, and the access one comp from the other? I need a walk threw here please. Modems and to routers are different. [url=http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10022326&catid=]This and [url=http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/subclass.asp?logon=&langid=EN&catid=10495]these are what your looking for. A walkthrough is provided in the box, it is called a manual, and I suggest you RTFM if you decided to take this route. Connecting your old hard drive to your new computer would be cheaper, quicker, and easier (if you know how to that is). ----------------------------------- TokenHerbz Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:20 am ----------------------------------- The cables from my new comp dont fit in the hard drive of my old comp... ----------------------------------- r.3volved Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:00 am ----------------------------------- You clearly have no knowledge of hardware....so since you can't seem to use google properly, perhaps you should take it into a shop and pay someone to do it for you. I'd imagine it's a SCSI HDD, so do you have a SCSI controller in the old computer? Was it hooked right to the mobo? Maybe just cut your losses...it is only turing applications. http://www.techsupportalert.com/search/h0718.pdf http://savage.net.au/Ron/html/scsi-tutorial.html http://www.foxtec.com/support/scsi.asp -------------- To hook up a router you connect your ethernet cable from your card to the router. Same with the other tower and that's it. It is extremely simple and basic networking knowledge that can be found on google within minutes. http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Networking-Hardware/Router-Overview/ http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,68763,00.asp http://www.pctechtalk.com/?m=show&id=4044 http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-1035_11-5589161.html http://www.geekgirls.com/windowsxp_home_network.htm ----------------------------------- TokenHerbz Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:37 pm ----------------------------------- perhaps i wasn't clear when is said i dont have a fucking router... And was i not clear on the fact that my comp was REALLY OLD and the CABLES USED IN THE OLD COMP CAN"T CONNECT TO ANYTHING IN MY NEW COMP, LIkewise, the WIRES IN THE NEW COMP CAN'T CONNECT TO MY HARDDRIVE... I appriciate you spending minuets for the links you posted, but dont suggest to me that im an idiot... i dont appriciate that, im here for help not to say im stupid.. I AM telling you, there is NO WAY i can connect the new comp to the old hard drive... I asked, how may i connect the new comp, to the OLD COMP (not the hard drive), so that i can transfer the information, is there not a way to use a lan network or somthing? ----------------------------------- Mazer Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:17 pm ----------------------------------- Sure, as long as both computers can run and have network cards. Get a spare bit of network cable and look up how to make crossover cables. Or, see if you can find a crossover cable adapter. But really, you've piqued my curiousity, can I see any pictures of the old computer? ----------------------------------- timmytheturtle Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:38 pm ----------------------------------- But really, you've piqued my curiousity, can I see any pictures of the old computer? I wish to see some pictures of it too. Your computer can't be THAT old that the harddrive doesn't use IDE (unless it's SCSI). And your new computer would still come with an IDE controller allowing you to connect IDE drives to the motherboard. So pictures, make/model numbers, schematic diagrams. Anything that would show us what motherboard is in your old computer. And the harddrive make and model number as well. Also, using a crossover cable would work. But your going to need to make one (I suggest you look on [url=http://www.google.com]google for instructions on how to do that), or buy one. Most computer stores would have them. You could also you a parallel cable. If you had one that you can connect to both machines ----------------------------------- TokenHerbz Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:19 am ----------------------------------- ill see if i can get pics from the net: but its: upgaded ram: 127 223 mhz 9.4 GB HD ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:22 am ----------------------------------- IIRC, newer NICs dont need crossover cables, they can swap the connections upon detection of a direct link ----------------------------------- r.3volved Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:59 am ----------------------------------- And was i not clear on the fact that my comp was REALLY OLD and the CABLES USED IN THE OLD COMP CAN"T CONNECT TO ANYTHING IN MY NEW COMP, LIkewise, the WIRES IN THE NEW COMP CAN'T CONNECT TO MY HARDDRIVE... I appriciate you spending minuets for the links you posted, but dont suggest to me that im an idiot... i dont appriciate that, im here for help not to say im stupid.. I never said you were stupid... In fact, I asked you some questions about your old setup and you never answered them. This quote really proves your ignorance on it's own without any help from me, and I stand by the fact that you don't know shit about hardware. I AM telling you, there is NO WAY i can connect the new comp to the old hard drive... There is always a way. Why do you think I asked if you have a SCSI controller?? Instead of being a dumbass and taking offense to the links I posted, maybe you should read some of them and understand a little bit before you start crying about it. It doesn't even look like you know where to find the make and model of the hard drive, let alone do this yourself, so stick to writing useless Turing games and have a shop retrieve the data for you. ----------------------------------- TokenHerbz Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:00 pm ----------------------------------- well my comp looks to have the SCSI cables, but the harddrive cant use them. im telling you its really old hard drive... from like 1980's.. ----------------------------------- timmytheturtle Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:09 pm ----------------------------------- well my comp looks to have the SCSI cables, but the harddrive cant use them. SCSI cables and IDE cables look the same. SCSI cables just have 50 wires while IDE has 40. im telling you its really old hard drive... from like 1980's.. No it's not from the 1980's, but from the 1990's. Provide us with more information about the computer. Harddrive model numbers, motherboard model numbers. Info on all PCI/ISA cards in the computer too. ----------------------------------- TokenHerbz Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:13 pm ----------------------------------- ok well i cant seem to see information about the harddrive... But in the old computer it has a connector peice to the power box, which connects 4 holes... This is not what the new comp usess.. Also the information tranfer cable on the old computer differes from the new computer.. Some numbers on my HD :::: IBM Model: DTTA-371010 E182115 S RATED: 5V 300mA 12V 500mA DC MADE IN THAILAND BY IBM STORAGE PRODUCTS (THIALAND) LTD IM WARRENT VOID IF ANY LABLE/SCREW IS REMOVED OR BROKEN JUL 98 P/N: 03L5264 10.1GB MLC: F02611 CHS: 16383/16/63 LBA: 19.746.720 SECTORS Barcodes: 11S03L5264Z1M000075362 DP/N 00069007-12561-87H-0F3E A00 A221111 Also a white intigrated number in the HD itself: 846698L I dont know how your going to use what i posted to help me??? But yeah, i don't know what else you want... ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:54 pm ----------------------------------- the power cables should be the same as the ones that goes into the optical drives in the new computer., there should be adapters or extra ones. does the connector cable look like http://www.eutronix.com/IDE_cable2.jpg? if so, its IDE, and will for sure work with your new computer. look at the connectors of the optical drives ----------------------------------- timmytheturtle Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:18 am ----------------------------------- Do the connectors from your new PC look anything like ok well i cant seem to see information about the harddrive... After some quick googling, I found [url=http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/storage/69007/Specs.htm]this which tells me that your hard drive DOES use IDE. Therefore you can connect your old hard drive to your new PC. I'm not going to tell you how to connect another hard drive to a computer. But google can [url=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&q=Installing+a+second+hard+drive&btnG=Search]help you ----------------------------------- r.3volved Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:00 am ----------------------------------- IBM DTTA-351010 10GB IDE 3.5" 5400RPM HARD DRIVE :? :roll: ----------------------------------- TokenHerbz Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:17 am ----------------------------------- Yes Andy, my new computer use's those cables, and my OLD Hard drive uses the ones posted by timmy : http://timmytheturtle.googlepages.com/sata_00.gif : So then, How do i get the 2 together? must i purchade an adapter, and if so, whats it called, and whats it look like? If i don't, the please explain how to do this.. ----------------------------------- Andy Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:08 am ----------------------------------- does your cd drive use the same connector as your hard drive? if so, just unplug your cd drive for a couple of hours, and upload all the files you need from your old hard drive.