----------------------------------- bugzpodder Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:10 pm Turing and C++ ----------------------------------- a few things i could think of which Turing does better than C++ is base conversion, draw stars, and mapleleafs. ----------------------------------- Homer_simpson Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:16 pm ----------------------------------- no that's bulljizz!!! you can draw stars or maple leaf or whatever 10 times faster with c++!!! ----------------------------------- Tony Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:19 pm ----------------------------------- bugz... its the same damn function... Turing does convert to C++ and compile :? ----------------------------------- Homer_simpson Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:24 pm ----------------------------------- yes but it also compiles a lotta other shit that we dont want and slows are program down =/ ----------------------------------- Catalyst Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:28 pm ----------------------------------- the other stuff just makes the exe large ,that and the fact turing is hybrid interpreter, at least thats what the holt site says and the runtime debug and error checking slow turing down ----------------------------------- bugzpodder Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:03 pm ----------------------------------- you guys misunderstood me. there is no base convertion function, draw star function and draw maple leaf function in C++ ----------------------------------- PaddyLong Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:09 pm ----------------------------------- hehe that's what I was thinking bugz :P ----------------------------------- Tony Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:09 pm ----------------------------------- yeah... thats cuz tom west is pretending to be a nice guy and wrote one (or more likely found on) and included it in a custom library that is being attached to turing files. ----------------------------------- Martin Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:36 pm ----------------------------------- You also have to admit that turing does have a much nicer error checking system than c++ (at least microsoft visual c++). Also, umm...yeah. Better error checking. ----------------------------------- Homer_simpson Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:48 pm ----------------------------------- what do u mean by base convertion?! ----------------------------------- bugzpodder Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:55 pm ----------------------------------- yes that too, Darkness. base conversion is when you convert from one base to another (helpful, arent I) ----------------------------------- Mazer Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:57 pm ----------------------------------- he means 1000101(base 2) = 69 (base 10) which can be done easily in turing by: put strint ("1000101", 2) ----------------------------------- Homer_simpson Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:28 pm ----------------------------------- lol of course c++ does base changin!!! ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:50 pm ----------------------------------- not as easy as Turing. I rememeber that DWITE contest, question 5, with base changing, it was soooo easy to do with turing. I think it would been a lot harder with C++ ----------------------------------- Martin Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:51 pm ----------------------------------- Turing's a nice language to use for low level contests because of its easy syntax ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:29 pm ----------------------------------- ya plus the fact that the turing editor can practically teach the students so the teachers get off easy ----------------------------------- Dan Sat Jun 14, 2003 12:34 am ----------------------------------- ah, c++ can do base coversion in one line with the libarys my school has... ----------------------------------- Andy Sat Jun 14, 2003 3:50 pm ----------------------------------- ur school's cheap then ----------------------------------- Martin Sat Jun 14, 2003 8:52 pm ----------------------------------- One of the big things that I hate about people and C++/Turing is that there are so many people who say that their programs are crap because turing is crap. Here it is for you: If you're program's crappy, it's because you're a crappy programmer. Simple as that. Also, if you can't make anything half-decent in turing, there's no way that you're going to get c++. ----------------------------------- Mazer Sat Jun 14, 2003 8:54 pm ----------------------------------- hm... why did that last remark make me think of james? :wink: ----------------------------------- Andy Sun Jun 15, 2003 3:04 pm ----------------------------------- ya i agree with darkness, look at mazer, turing sux crap and he made a comercial quallity game... ----------------------------------- Crono Sun Jun 15, 2003 5:35 pm ----------------------------------- martin, dun b retarded, u know turin is sloppy on da 3d side n the higher level...it's nice at the low levelz n all...o wellz, wut do we know, we haven't even graduated hi skoo yet... ----------------------------------- Andy Sun Jun 15, 2003 6:55 pm ----------------------------------- crono are u john? ----------------------------------- Martin Sun Jun 15, 2003 7:18 pm ----------------------------------- That's not what I'm talking about. Yeah, c++ IS better than turing. I'm just annoyed with people who can't program worth shit in turing claiming that they could be awesome 'if only they knew c++'. ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Sun Jun 15, 2003 7:34 pm ----------------------------------- I agree completely Darkness!! I can think of soo many people who are like that.. ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Sun Jun 15, 2003 7:36 pm ----------------------------------- not as easy as Turing. I rememeber that DWITE contest, question 5, with base changing, it was soooo easy to do with turing. I think it would been a lot harder with C++ (first time using quotes, hehe, i'm not doing it right :S) Anywas thats what asian said, and i don't think that he has any right to say that considering YOU DONT KNOW ANY C++ :P ----------------------------------- Andy Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:13 am ----------------------------------- told meng... ----------------------------------- Crono Mon Jun 16, 2003 6:00 pm ----------------------------------- yea, tat's tru, lousy ppl'll alwayz make up excuses no matter wut, i even do it sumtimes...lol... :lol: hey martin, i am jon...should've figured it out by now... ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Mon Jun 16, 2003 6:32 pm ----------------------------------- blah blah blah.....turing. I think it would been a lot harder with C++ note the "I think" oh well, time to learn C++ so I can back up what I say.[/b] ----------------------------------- Andy Mon Jun 16, 2003 7:24 pm ----------------------------------- and now after your experience with c++? ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Mon Jun 16, 2003 7:45 pm ----------------------------------- experience with C++: acquiring the software: $100 (yeah right) finding a good tutorial site: 20 minutes (that's like what, $50?) finally learning to put ";" after everyline: priceless anyways, i always get like 10 errors when i compile, and all because i forget to put the colon. ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Mon Jun 16, 2003 8:31 pm ----------------------------------- It's a SEMI-colon LOSER :P, maybe thats why you have 10 errors. And since when do you think! ----------------------------------- AsianSensation Mon Jun 16, 2003 8:34 pm ----------------------------------- whatever, u know what i was talking about semi-colons ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Mon Jun 16, 2003 9:29 pm ----------------------------------- ahahahahahahahahahahahaha tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:16 am ----------------------------------- once again meng gets told by the compsci master ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Tue Jun 17, 2003 2:08 pm ----------------------------------- im not a comp sci master dodge.. if thats what you were saying.. go see bugz or darkness for comp sci masters... anyways im just kidding asian its all good