----------------------------------- Mazer Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:57 am Shall we file this under "Google is--" ah fuck it. ----------------------------------- http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/31/google_goes_desktop_linux/ I'm really not sure what to think of that. Can't say I care for the name much. Aside from that... I dunno. I like my Ubuntu the way it is. What changes will Google be making? ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:00 pm ----------------------------------- hopefully it'll work with my computer this time.. everytime i try to install it on dual boot, my comp dies :roll: ----------------------------------- Mazer Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:23 pm ----------------------------------- Care to elaborate? Did you mean the install fails, or that your computer gets fucked up as a result of installing it? ----------------------------------- timmytheturtle Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:41 pm ----------------------------------- I also like Ubuntu the way it is, and I also didn't like that name Goobuntu maybe gubuntu would work a little better, but either way I like ubuntu and I think all stick with it for a while longer. I like google, and think if they can pull this off it would be good for those "noobs" out there who can't use linux cause it's too "hard" to use ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:57 pm ----------------------------------- nick, here is what i did. i used partition magic to spin off 30 gigs of free space into unpartitioned area off my laptop, then formatted the 70 gigs thats left in to ntfs slow, installed windows xp over that 70 gigs, then without installing anything else, pop in the ubuntu cd, and then format the 30 gigs to ext-3, then install ubuntu onto it. everything works fine, computer restarts, and it gets stuck on installing grub... i leave it on over nite, next morning, still installing grub... then i turn off my comp, and pop in the windows xp cd so i can use fixmbr to restore my comp, and bam, the windows xp disk no longer boots.. so then i have to put the ubuntu disk back in, select format, format my ENTIRE drive, then the instant it finishes formatting, before any files are being coppied, i have to pull the plug on my comp, only then will the xp disk boot.. tried this 4-5 times.. yea.. it doesnt like me very much ----------------------------------- md Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:03 pm ----------------------------------- I don't suppose the ubuntu install CD will give you a promt eh? I haven't done anything with it for a long time, but I have done lots with gentoo; and really installing grub is super simple. ----------------------------------- timmytheturtle Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:06 pm ----------------------------------- I suggest breaking it Are you sure the cd you are installing ubuntu off of isn't scratched or anything like that? What version is it? (Horay, Breezy?) Have you tried installing ubuntu only just to see if it's grub that's messing everything up? And if it still wont work, either try a different distro, or smash the laptop and take it back ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:44 pm ----------------------------------- no way im smashing my super sexy asus laptop with geforce 6600 and 2 gigs of 533mhz ram... umm the version is slightly outdated, i'll image my hdd sometimes in feburary, and try again... and yea the cd's not scratched.. it was a printed one.. i ordered like 50 of them ----------------------------------- timmytheturtle Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:49 pm ----------------------------------- i ordered like 50 of them Why so many? you trying to bankrupt them? ahh crap im outta time...i want the internet back at home :cry: ----------------------------------- rizzix Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:55 pm ----------------------------------- i ordered like 50 of them Why so many? you trying to bankrupt them? ahh crap im outta time...i want the internet back at home :cry: bankrupt the multimillionaire.. you can try.. but who cares.. ----------------------------------- Martin Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:36 pm ----------------------------------- To turn this into a flame war. OSX really really really needs virtual terminals. ----------------------------------- Mazer Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:23 pm ----------------------------------- Omfg ban ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:25 pm ----------------------------------- Omfg ban ROFL ----------------------------------- Andy Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:15 am ----------------------------------- speaking of google... http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/060131/google_earns.html?.v=3 owned... ----------------------------------- md Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:38 am ----------------------------------- So... people who are not google predict how much money google will make... then when google fails to meet those predictions for a number of legitimate reasons their share prices fall... Anyone else think that maybe the market haas become too focused on speculation instead of fact? ----------------------------------- Boo-chan Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:48 am ----------------------------------- Well it leads to a rather easy way to earn money. All you have to do is predict how people are going to react to the news and plan accordingly. ----------------------------------- md Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:40 pm ----------------------------------- Exactly! Making money of speculation. That's gotta be one of the most; if not the most parasitic "jobs" there is. It's too bad that people can't get paid at least in part by how much they contribute to the well being of society. Lawyers, politicians, and stock brokers would certainly be less abundant. ----------------------------------- Andy Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:57 pm ----------------------------------- just look at amd stocks.. they went up 10% the instant dell planned to start using them in march.. 10%.. alot of people saw this coming, which means alot of people made quite a bit of money yesturday ----------------------------------- 1of42 Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:00 pm ----------------------------------- Exactly! Making money of speculation. That's gotta be one of the most; if not the most parasitic "jobs" there is. It's too bad that people can't get paid at least in part by how much they contribute to the well being of society. Lawyers, politicians, and stock brokers would certainly be less abundant. People make exactly what their value to society is, according to the market system we currently utilize. There are ways to Fudge with it a bit, but overall it tends to work (though maybe not in your opinion). ----------------------------------- Amailer Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:54 pm ----------------------------------- http://mail.google.com/mail/help/chat.html Check this out, File it under google, is, cool. Finally, I can chat with people, without downloading a msn client at school! (My school blocks MSN, eh, never tried gtalk) ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:15 pm ----------------------------------- yea i noticed that today... they're trying to bring down productivity in other companies.. those smart bas7ards... ----------------------------------- apomb Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:37 pm ----------------------------------- Exactly! Making money of speculation. That's gotta be one of the most; if not the most parasitic "jobs" there is. It's too bad that people can't get paid at least in part by how much they contribute to the well being of society. Lawyers, politicians, and stock brokers would certainly be less abundant. People make exactly what their value to society is, according to the market system we currently utilize. There are ways to Fudge with it a bit, but overall it tends to work (though maybe not in your opinion). doctors and other professionals, like teachers are earning less than say, musicians because musicians are more valuable to society?? personally, i think doctors and teachers get peanuts compared to their value in society. ----------------------------------- Boo-chan Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:45 pm ----------------------------------- Some people would say that the circuses are far more important than the bread. Whether or not they're right largely depends on your view of society. ----------------------------------- Andy Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:04 pm ----------------------------------- doctors and other professionals, like teachers are earning less than say, musicians because musicians are more valuable to society?? personally, i think doctors and teachers get peanuts compared to their value in society. Musicians become rich because they are able to entertain millions, if the doctor had the ability to treat millions of people in a captialistic country, then he/she would make much more than the musician ----------------------------------- md Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:23 pm ----------------------------------- Very few musicians become rich. VERY few. Those that do are generally deserving of that wealth. Generally speaking doctors make much more then your average musican. Teachers don't get paid enough for what they do, but again I would argue that they make about as much as a decent musican if not more. Where I work we pay for live (good) bands during the winters. IIRC the average price paid is between $500 and $700 for one evening. Assume 4 group members in the band, that's $125-$175 each. Assuming they work every day all year that's $45000-$65000 a year, and they certainly don't work that often. So let's assume an average income of $40k-$50k; that's a far cry from riches, or the average doctors salary of $100k+. ----------------------------------- wtd Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:26 pm ----------------------------------- Very few musicians become rich. VERY few. Those that do are generally deserving of that wealth. Generally speaking doctors make much more then your average musican. Teachers don't get paid enough for what they do, but again I would argue that they make about as much as a decent musican if not more. Where I work we pay for live (good) bands during the winters. IIRC the average price paid is between $500 and $700 for one evening. Assume 4 group members in the band, that's $125-$175 each. Assuming they work every day all year that's $45000-$65000 a year, and they certainly don't work that often. So let's assume an average income of $40k-$50k; that's a far cry from riches, or the average doctors salary of $100k+. Do the musicians you have perform live get to sell CDs as well? ----------------------------------- md Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:24 am ----------------------------------- They could theoretically sell CDs and a few actually do. However most perform music by others and don't sell many cds if any. Still, I'd argue that my total is a bit high to start with. That's a live performance every night at the low end. ----------------------------------- codemage Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:48 am ----------------------------------- Good luck finding available gigs for every night of the year. If you're not a household name, that'll involve travel - which'll increase your overhead. ----------------------------------- wtd Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:32 pm ----------------------------------- On the other hand, getting out and travelling is a pretty good way to get more people exposed to your music. You can't be in demand if no one knows you exist. ----------------------------------- Boo-chan Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:44 pm ----------------------------------- I thought that was what the internet was for. Isn't one of the great benefits of bittorrent is that it allowed small bands to get exposure to large numbers of people? Surely people use bittorrent to download things besides linux distros :roll: ----------------------------------- wtd Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:46 pm ----------------------------------- Yes, you can use P2P apps to get a wider sampling of an obscure band's music. However, that alone won't tell you that they exist in the first place, and it won't pique your interest. ----------------------------------- bugzpodder Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:02 pm ----------------------------------- http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/googlesnewestsearchtoolraisesprivacyconcerns excellent reason for me to uninstall google desktop which i hardly used at all. I'll also remove google earth and google talk, which again were used rarely. ----------------------------------- md Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:16 pm ----------------------------------- I dunno; I'm not sure why it's loading files onto the server, as that just seems to be a waste of space. Computer B is just as well off sending a search request to computer A through google and then downloading a copy of hte file. And perhaps then usign google to copy it back. I suppose there are some privacy concerns assuming google doesn't encrypt the files it uploads (which it really should). But it's a long way from being evil. Especially compared to recent happenings at yahoo. I don't know of anyone google has turned over to hte chinese censors... ----------------------------------- Amailer Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:13 pm ----------------------------------- Is there no option to just make it index the files, insted of making them get uploaded onto google servers? Thats pretty sad- huge privacy issue there. ----------------------------------- Boo-chan Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:25 pm ----------------------------------- From an article I read, the choice to have the files indexed on the google servers is an option you can choose if you want to be able to search through the files from another computer. If you don't want that to happen you just don't choose that option... ----------------------------------- codemage Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:01 am ----------------------------------- I can see it being a useful feature in some circumstances. If the hold time was maybe 3 days, and the US gov wasn't currently pressuring Google to give up search data, I'd probably use something like that occasionally. As it stands now... no. ----------------------------------- md Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:50 pm ----------------------------------- Cornflake's solution to working on multiple computers: ssh and ftp (or other assorted filesharing techniques). The only security issue is you.