----------------------------------- nate Tue May 27, 2003 3:47 pm Frames ----------------------------------- Well, I have a big exam in comp sci coming up. And all i am good at is Turing i forgot most of my html skils Could someone post a small - large tutorial on Frames? that would be great. *BLONDE BOUNCIES ARE THE BEST* ----------------------------------- JSBN Tue May 27, 2003 4:29 pm ----------------------------------- sure, just give me a sec ----------------------------------- Tony Tue May 27, 2003 5:08 pm ----------------------------------- well just to let you know... HTML is not a programming language, it shouldnt even be tought in compsci :? second, even if HTML is tough, FRAMES are old, outdated and noone is using them anymore... I truly dont see a point in having them... But yeah, JSBN and PHP God are our HTML experts at the moment... ask them ----------------------------------- octopi Sat May 31, 2003 8:53 pm ----------------------------------- Yes, html is not included under the ICS3M curriculum. But....... It should be included in my oppinion. Anyways, Frames = BAD They have a purpose, but they get annoying. Especially sites that use them just to put a banner at the top of the screen. IFRAMES can be useful if you need to include stuff in the middle of the page, but they are highly UNSUPPORTED. I find iframes useful for when I am developing something I know will only be used on systems with IE, and only when they are absolutly needed. ----------------------------------- JSBN Sun Jun 01, 2003 9:42 am ----------------------------------- usually it's taught in business tech. ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:35 pm ----------------------------------- well just to let you know... HTML is not a programming language, it shouldnt even be tought in compsci :? then why is it called Hypertext Markup Language? Is it just a fancy name or am i wrong? ----------------------------------- Catalyst Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:47 pm ----------------------------------- theres a difference between programming and markup languages ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:24 pm ----------------------------------- yeahyeah ----------------------------------- Tony Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:24 pm ----------------------------------- markup language is essensially tags that tell text how to display. Its really no different from a MS Word documen, its just that all the bold and italic and whatnot tags are not displayed. ----------------------------------- SilverSprite Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:25 pm ----------------------------------- i knew that :roll: its all the same difference ----------------------------------- PaddyLong Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:33 pm ----------------------------------- frames are nasty... they can sometimes be used and look OK if the person knows what they are doing (for layouts... tables and includes are your friend :D). iframes are a bad idea to use because only IE supports them :/ ----------------------------------- Homer_simpson Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:46 pm ----------------------------------- just give the man what he wants already :roll: :P and i dont see any reason for Frames being Bad... except that some old browsers don't support them...:? well i say ppl stupid enough to use those browsers can go screw themselves... here's a big ass tutorial on frames... http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/present/frames.html ----------------------------------- PaddyLong Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:56 pm ----------------------------------- just give the man what he wants already :roll: :P lol well considering this topic is from may I am going to assume he already found what he wanted or failed his test... ----------------------------------- krishon Thu Jul 10, 2003 10:28 am ----------------------------------- lol, frames are ok if u know how to use them...for example if ur whole page is made up of frames and u have a navigation bar in one of the frames, only that frame will change not the page...technically u have have tens of page on one page :D ----------------------------------- UBC_Wiskatos Thu Jul 10, 2003 1:36 pm ----------------------------------- frames are nasty... they can sometimes be used and look OK if the person knows what they are doing (for layouts... tables and includes are your friend :D). iframes are a bad idea to use because only IE supports them :/ Actually, in the new W3C standards, tables are depreciated for layout, and the use of CSS for layout is encouraged. Tables were only meant to be a way to format data, anyway. ----------------------------------- krishon Thu Jul 10, 2003 8:27 pm ----------------------------------- tables are much better...easier to lay out and stuff in my opinion ----------------------------------- rizzix Thu Jul 10, 2003 8:30 pm ----------------------------------- it's all a matter of opinion eh. :wink: the tikiwiki.sf.net site's front-page is done with out tables... heh .. that'z skillz.. not that hard tho ----------------------------------- PaddyLong Fri Jul 11, 2003 1:09 pm ----------------------------------- css maybe? you can do pixel positioning with css... it really is powerful... and combine it with javascript and you have whats known as dhtml (dynamic html...) edit: (lol just read page 1 and saw ubc's post after I did this one :P)