woohoo! at last turing 4 is mine and i can finally see all thos great progs ppl post source code up for (such as all of Catalysts progs)
... hey, the editing window looks jus like Ready2Java (also by HoltSoft)Computer Science Canada Turing 4.1 |
| Author: | Homer_simpson [ Fri May 02, 2003 6:06 pm ] |
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this is a link to turing 4.0.1 for people from Thompson school and no one else is permitted to download this ,i think =Þ http://schools.tdsb.on.ca/dmthomson/CS/Turing/401/SETUP.EXE student of thompson can download the 4.0.4c patch from holt software website |
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| Author: | Prince [ Fri May 02, 2003 8:59 pm ] |
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woohoo! at last turing 4 is mine and i can finally see all thos great progs ppl post source code up for (such as all of Catalysts progs) ... hey, the editing window looks jus like Ready2Java (also by HoltSoft) |
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| Author: | Dan [ Fri May 02, 2003 10:00 pm ] |
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you better go to Thompson school or tom west will get you. P.S. in case you did not know tom west is the guy who yellls at poleop that got igale copeys of turing and runs the holth web page. |
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| Author: | void [ Wed May 28, 2003 7:33 pm ] |
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i..go...to..thomson summin or other.....**shifty eyes** |
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| Author: | JSBN [ Wed May 28, 2003 7:37 pm ] |
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i bought turing... can u say worst 80 bucks i wasted. (well actually, me and Asok split the cost, but dont tell any1)......  |
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| Author: | Homer_simpson [ Wed May 28, 2003 7:45 pm ] |
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wow i have never paid money for buying a software and the price is unbelievable i think a c++ cd would be the same price as this shitty programming language... i dont even consider turing a programming language =/ |
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| Author: | Catalyst [ Wed May 28, 2003 7:58 pm ] |
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c++ is free (dev c++) |
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| Author: | Homer_simpson [ Wed May 28, 2003 7:59 pm ] |
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i dont think the original one's free is it? |
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| Author: | Catalyst [ Wed May 28, 2003 8:01 pm ] |
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what original? dev-c++ is an ide and compiler (and is great) |
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| Author: | Tony [ Wed May 28, 2003 8:17 pm ] |
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I think he means the one by microsoft... VC++  |
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| Author: | Catalyst [ Wed May 28, 2003 8:19 pm ] |
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ya vc++ is expensive (600$) |
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| Author: | Homer_simpson [ Wed May 28, 2003 8:25 pm ] |
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 =O =O =O man i feel so smart =Þ
*bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*... |
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| Author: | Catalyst [ Wed May 28, 2003 8:28 pm ] |
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i know everything is free these days |
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| Author: | Tony [ Wed May 28, 2003 8:29 pm ] |
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you still probably paid for internet connection... sucker 
though VC++ is not that expencive... when you get into graphics apps (especially 3D)... Now THATs expensive. PhotoShop $1000 3DSMAX $3500 Maya Pro $7000 |
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| Author: | Catalyst [ Wed May 28, 2003 8:30 pm ] |
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i dont even want to touch those |
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| Author: | Homer_simpson [ Wed May 28, 2003 8:36 pm ] |
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bwahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrr.... now i feel like a super duper dexter genius =Þ... i have *bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep* and the internetconnection... well i'd have to pay for it anyways |
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| Author: | Catalyst [ Wed May 28, 2003 8:37 pm ] |
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ive got 3ds max but havent got around to getting pshop |
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| Author: | Dan [ Wed May 28, 2003 9:12 pm ] |
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i whould not say such things on a forum where any one can see it. i know tom west (turing nazi [guy who yells at poleop with illigal copy of turing]) looks at the fourms and he will go far enogth as to call you up and say they may have to sue you. turst me i know  |
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| Author: | Catalyst [ Wed May 28, 2003 9:13 pm ] |
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i never said i didnt pay for them, i did "pay" for them |
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| Author: | Homer_simpson [ Wed May 28, 2003 9:14 pm ] |
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=O i'd better delete the posts |
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| Author: | JSBN [ Wed May 28, 2003 9:19 pm ] |
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yeah it tookl me alot of money to "buy" pshop, 3ds, and maya 4.5 unlimited 
who is this tom west neways, and who is he to bitch at others for dling illegal turing? |
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| Author: | Asok [ Wed May 28, 2003 9:31 pm ] |
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yea Tom West called me and I was like "Yo dawg what's up?" he's like "did u pay for turing?" so said "what are you, the RCMP?" and then I hung up. (for those of you who are too slow to depict fact from fiction, Tom West didn't actually call me) |
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| Author: | Homer_simpson [ Wed May 28, 2003 9:38 pm ] |
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lol... |
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| Author: | Tony [ Wed May 28, 2003 11:11 pm ] |
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but Tom DID call Dan up... For real... he must have been bored... If I know Tom, I'd say he sit there at home, and searches the web for people who didnt pay for turing... then calls their parents
Seriosly though, if you expect a shitty program to pay up $80 a piece, he should have considered the fact that if files are copied on to a floppy... the program still works |
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| Author: | Martin [ Wed May 28, 2003 11:39 pm ] | ||||
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Tony, that was pretty low. Turing is not a bad programming language, in fact, in my opinion it is a really good programming language. I know it's not fast in the least and that it doesn't use your hardware, minus your processor but it does have a number of high points. Simplicity turing:
c:
The editor is beautiful, compared with c's (just a notepad file). I'm sure you'd argue that Microsoft Visual C++'s editor looks way better, and so does Visual Basic's, but Visual Studio costs $1000 US. Turing's help-files are amazing (for the most part). Turing allows a way for people who might otherwise be intimidated by c++'s syntax and visual basic's interface to try programming without having to worried about getting overwhelmed. And this lack of speed, if anything, teaches efficency. As a final point, in the end Turing is Tom West's creation, and I really don't think that charging $80 for a copy of it is unreasonable at all. In the end, stealing is stealing. I don't care that 3ds max costs $5000, it's discreet's software and they can do with it what they will. |
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| Author: | Tony [ Thu May 29, 2003 9:54 am ] |
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well yes, turing does have simplicity. Thats about it... I'm just saying that in comparence with that else you can get for $80... Turing is expencive. As for the help file, just one word - MSDN 8) |
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| Author: | Prince [ Thu May 29, 2003 10:30 am ] |
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$7000 for a graphics app ... good thing i aint goin into graphics  |
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| Author: | Homer_simpson [ Thu May 29, 2003 1:47 pm ] |
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you can download any program u want off the net no matter what the price... and turing...i'd say it's simplicity is what makes it suck.. cuz the more simple it is the less the functionality and the capabilities become... Holy shit i gotto a lotto spelling mistakes in this one |
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| Author: | Tony [ Thu May 29, 2003 4:38 pm ] |
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yeah... with the way internet works today, you can get lots of stuff... Matrix Reloaded was available through net (I saw posts some place) weeks before its releace date in theaters
hey, if something is stored on a computer with internet access, someone can get to it 8) |
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| Author: | PaddyLong [ Sat May 31, 2003 12:21 pm ] |
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I have heard if you throw handfulls of peanuts at developers they will give you copies of their programs for free as for the turing language... turing is actually a very very good language for just learning programming... it has all the main concepts and very easy syntax.. so then when you go to learn something like c++ or whatever, all you must do is learn the new syntax |
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| Author: | Tony [ Sat May 31, 2003 1:18 pm ] |
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I remember having a discussion with some guys, and we came to a conclusion that turing's syntax is too simple. yes, its easy to learn, but we had problems readjusting to new languages (such as C++) because syntax structure was soo much different. I'm not saying that its such as bad thing... I'm just saying that turing is good for basic consepts, but should not be used for more then 1 semester in schools. |
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| Author: | Homer_simpson [ Sat May 31, 2003 1:35 pm ] |
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agreed... right now i'm learning php(almost done) c++ (know the basics) java (know the basics) |
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| Author: | born130 [ Sun Jun 15, 2003 8:00 pm ] |
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They should just use one language at school and stick to it. whether is be turing or c++ better be pro at one then a jack of all trades |
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| Author: | Tony [ Sun Jun 15, 2003 8:28 pm ] |
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well not turing... I mean there're are limits. Catalyst is in grade 10 computers and is kicking @$$. The program should be: grade 10: turing grade 11 and 12 : C++ lots of kids dont get for loops as they are, you begin confusing them with C++ syntax, they gonna drop out first week. But no point in sticking to turing for more then a year. In C++, you should quickly review syntax for stuff already learned, and move on. |
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| Author: | void [ Sun Jun 15, 2003 8:56 pm ] |
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gr.9: turing + HTML (easiest lang to learn) gr.10: turing + VB gr.11+12: c++ thus resulting in a new breed of super programmers and for the record...i have the whole Adobe package (ps, premeir, after effects, etc.) and didnt pay shit for it...eat that TOM WEST...im pretty sure its worth about 10 grand tho...along with Swift 3D ...im prety sure im scamming alot of money |
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| Author: | Tony [ Sun Jun 15, 2003 10:17 pm ] |
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well I'm not surpriced in numbers... graphics softwares cost crazy amount of money... Maya Pro : $7000 |
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| Author: | krishon [ Mon Jun 16, 2003 9:15 am ] |
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our school does grade 10: turing grade 11: c++ (which i'm learnin rite now) grade 12: java seems purty good, plus ours is a none semestered school (we have the same class every other day) so it helps. Much easier to learn over a longer period of time. |
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| Author: | Andy [ Mon Jun 16, 2003 9:31 am ] |
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html isn't a programming language, why would learn that in compsci? |
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| Author: | krishon [ Mon Jun 16, 2003 9:51 am ] |
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its a language alright, but it isn't programming. well i think u'd learn it cuz at our school, the first year of compsci is like programming and application, which includes making web pages, so we'd learn html |
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| Author: | Tony [ Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:45 am ] |
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Kinda pointless... since building a webpage has nothing to do with programming application. Writing a working software is application
Besides, with things like Front Page, Adobe GoLive and even GeoCities Pagebuilder, webpages design is simplified to drag and drop. |
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| Author: | krishon [ Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:58 am ] |
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ye, u got a point there, maybe u should go tell my teachers i hated the applications part, so pointless, i mean whos gonna use all that stuff they teach us bout word |
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| Author: | Prince [ Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:58 am ] |
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isnt that kinda like VB (the drag and drop thing) and VB is still programming |
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| Author: | Martin [ Mon Jun 16, 2003 1:55 pm ] |
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VB is closer to MS Word than anything else. |
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| Author: | ShadowStorm [ Mon Jun 16, 2003 2:13 pm ] |
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our school is good.. Grade 9: html (just a little) & Turing Grade 10+11+12: JAVA |
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| Author: | JayLo [ Mon Jun 16, 2003 2:24 pm ] |
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what school do you go to? mine's is okay... 10: turing 11: c++ 12: java |
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| Author: | Andy [ Mon Jun 16, 2003 2:55 pm ] |
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hmmm there is grade 9 compsci? |
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| Author: | krishon [ Mon Jun 16, 2003 4:00 pm ] |
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lol, i dunno, we start at 10...... |
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| Author: | Andy [ Mon Jun 16, 2003 4:48 pm ] |
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ya but grade 10 coimpsci is for little girls (no offence Jay Lo) you learn nothing there, everything my friend learned there i learned in 3 days... so technically compsci starts at grade 11 but grade 9? that's outrageous |
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| Author: | JayLo [ Mon Jun 16, 2003 5:05 pm ] |
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yes. now i'm a little girl?? ... 8) score. |
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| Author: | Andy [ Mon Jun 16, 2003 5:15 pm ] |
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i was just playing Jay Lo, ur not a little girl, i was saying that garde 10 compsci was for little girls, but i was not making fun of the fact that u took grade 10 compsci |
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| Author: | azndragon [ Fri Aug 01, 2003 11:59 pm ] |
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Oh man, havn't been here in a LONG while. Anyways, my school is like this: 10: QBASIC 11: VB 12 : Java Yep, my school must really suck using QBASIC, cause our school's cheap 8) |
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| Author: | rizzix [ Sat Aug 02, 2003 7:34 pm ] |
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it think it is better than turing. not sure.. but i can tell onething ur school teaches u VB and Java .. thats fine. |
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| Author: | AsianSensation [ Sat Aug 02, 2003 9:04 pm ] |
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at least your school doesn't do this: grade 10: Turing grade 11: Turing grade 12: Turing |
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| Author: | rizzix [ Sun Aug 03, 2003 1:40 am ] |
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heh mine does =/ they were thinking of changing it to gr10: Turing gr11: Turing gr12: VB yea i know still sucks i wish they taught Java or C++ or something! |
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| Author: | AsianSensation [ Sun Aug 03, 2003 1:54 pm ] |
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ours might change too, we are getting a new teacher, so we don't know what they might want us to do when the year starts |
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| Author: | RaPsCaLLioN [ Tue Aug 05, 2003 11:41 pm ] |
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My school was all Turing too. From old school Turing to WinOOT. A little bit of VB thrown in here and there but all the same from 10-12 + OAC. What school everyone go to? |
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| Author: | vexd [ Tue Sep 30, 2003 8:15 pm ] |
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u my friend are a life saver :/ the other v4 i had, had no help file  |
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| Author: | vexd [ Tue Sep 30, 2003 8:16 pm ] |
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my school has a good line up: gr9 - vb gr10 - vb g11 - turing ^ should be switched gr12: Java |
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| Author: | Karam [ Wed Nov 12, 2003 6:58 pm ] |
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Good post for the people at Thomson highschool *cough* The update link is down at their site, right?  |
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| Author: | Bskll [ Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:25 pm ] |
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the link isn't working!! |
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| Author: | Dan [ Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:34 pm ] |
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Bskll wrote: the link isn't working!!
Do u even go to Thomson highschool? lol. |
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| Author: | Bskll [ Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:35 pm ] |
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i go to another TDSB high school(North Toronto) and they are teaching grade 10 com sci with turing, but our teacher is working out the kinks with the person who keeps track of the license and now i have to do my comsci hw at shool which is a hassle. I'm not specifically trying to invade copyright and steal money, its just that i can't wait that long for my copy of Turing from my teacher. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:08 pm ] |
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Ah ic, but with a disrobution linces u still need to get the right verson from your school. If u realy realy need it there my be a link to an UPGRADE for turing that legaly u need to all ready have turing 4.0.4 for but there is nothing stoping some one from lets say dling and instaing it even if they do not have it. Athougth of corse i do not endorse such actions but am just saying that hte 4.0.5 upgreaded dose nor serach for 4.0.4 to instal and just needs it for leagal reasons. So if u have turing 4.0.4 u could go look for that link and download it.... |
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| Author: | Bskll [ Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:40 pm ] |
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my school has 4.0.1 just like thompson. its just that its a pain in the ass* for me to do my comsci hw at school and if anyone is willing to help out, PM Please. http://ntci.on.ca/~compsci/ the department used to be headed by someone called hefferman, but now he's gone for the year, Mr. Small has a bit of a problem with the license. |
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| Author: | Andy [ Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:47 am ] |
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look in the ahem...  N  E W S S E C T I O N |
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| Author: | miracle [ Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:40 am ] |
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Bskll wrote: my school has 4.0.1 just like thompson.
its just that its a pain in the ass* for me to do my comsci hw at school and if anyone is willing to help out, PM Please. http://ntci.on.ca/~compsci/ the department used to be headed by someone called hefferman, but now he's gone for the year, Mr. Small has a bit of a problem with the license. i am in some what a similar case... except that i usually finish my program at school, but now i am at home, and probably 200 km away from my school... someone help ~_~ |
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| Author: | Dan [ Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:38 pm ] |
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miracle wrote: i am in some what a similar case... except that i usually finish my program at school, but now i am at home, and probably 200 km away from my school... someone help ~_~ Sigh, i don't think it is posable to drop any more hints in this topic with out just out right saying where you can download turing. No one can directly give you turing on this site b/c it whould mean that we could be sued for disturbing copy righted materals. Tho illegal verson (copys) of turing do exits and are out there..... Any how this topic gave me an idea, how likey whould we to be sued if we made an online turing editior and excuiter? If we did not even thouch the turing code but made our own progaming lang with an online editor that had the excat same comands and sintext? |
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| Author: | wtd [ Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:43 pm ] |
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Problem with that idea, Dan is that you don't know exactly how Turing is supposed to behave since there isn't an open standard. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:48 pm ] |
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Ture, but we know it used to just covert the turing code in to C++ and then complie it with the C++ complier. And the ideas is not to remake truing 100s but to make somting for students who dont have turing at home but need to test there code for home work. It whould not need to be 100% just enougth to get the right idea. Eeven if we could just replicate the non graficks part it whould still be better then nothing for them. |
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| Author: | wtd [ Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:06 pm ] |
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The only thing I'd be worried about is getting things wrong. Student tests his or her code sing this tool, and it works, then takes it to school and it doesn't. "But it worked in the unofficial online Turing simulator!" isn't going to engender much sympathy.
Better to write an open-source implementation of a Turing-like language and distribute it freely as a standalone application. Though, I should mention that I think the ideal solution for those who don't have access to Turing at home is to learn another simple programming language that is freely available. The concepts will almost certainly be (nearly) the same, and some languages will even employ similar syntax. The makers of Dev-C++, for instance, also make Dev-Pascal, which is free. Seeing as Turing was derived from Pascal, learning it might help Turing programmers. |
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| Author: | Dan [ Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:09 pm ] |
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True it whould be better for them in the long run but i mean just to make it so poleop will stop aksing this question. And hostly i realy do not whont another week lang floating around the net that poleop will be comapling about. I think that an unoffical turing simulator whould be better then nothing for them. And even if they knew another lang pefictealy it is still nice to have a way of debuging code since bugs and typeos just seem to hapen unless you are extreamly carefull. |
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| Author: | wtd [ Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:18 pm ] |
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Is there a Turing grammar around anywhere? |
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| Author: | Dan [ Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:42 pm ] |
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The only officeal docs from holth whould be the turing doc that is bulit in to turing wtich is more of a refecrence then a help of any kind. And the books that holth sells witch are more of a print out of the turing help. |
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| Author: | vicky_8 [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:36 pm ] |
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Link doesn't Work? |
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| Author: | Flikerator [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:34 pm ] |
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vicky_8 wrote: Link doesn't Work?
Look at the time. Oct 2004! That was a LOOOONG time ago... |
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| Author: | [Gandalf] [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:22 pm ] |
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Indeed... You shouldn't revive old topics, because (as I always say) they probably died for a reason. Anyways, while I'm at it, my school does this: Grade 10 : Turing Grade 11 : Turing and/or Java Grade 12 : Java That's a pretty good lineup if you ask me. Although I would prefer learning C or C++ instead of Java, but its all good. |
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| Author: | Carino [ Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:54 pm ] |
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[Gandalf] wrote: Grade 10 : Turing Grade 11 : Turing and/or Java Grade 12 : Java Mine: 10 : Turing 11 : Java 12 : Cancelled!! oh yea (not enough students) |
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| Author: | ssr [ Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:12 pm ] |
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[Gandalf] wrote: Grade 10 : Turing Grade 11 : Turing and/or Java Grade 12 : Java almost the same except grade 11, only java I love ur school's schedule 8) |
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| Author: | SeanWestdaleWarriors [ Thu May 05, 2005 5:49 pm ] |
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Westdale Computer Science: 11 - Visual Basic 6.0 12 - Visual Basic 6.0 (about a month) then YOUR CHOICE for the final project which takes up the rest of semester. The school lets the grade 12s install any language they want. Computer Engineering: 11 - Turing 12 - Turing I have no problem using Turing for Computer Engineering, as we use it to write programs to interface with a circuit connected via the parallel port, and parallelput() makes it very easy. |
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| Author: | tupac [ Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:18 pm ] |
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yo, u dont gota pay all dat $$ 4 3Ds max [mod:fd68327b00]Your link didn't seem to work, but that doesn't make it any better. No warez. And damn, at least try to write intelligently. k thx.[/mod:fd68327b00] |
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| Author: | jamonathin [ Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:51 pm ] |
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werd up, tupac  |
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