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Should Drugs and Prostitution Be Legal?

Author:	Maverick [ Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:21 pm ]
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In the spirit of intellegent spam I've decided to make an intelligent thread. I beleive that drugs should be kept illegal with the exception of pot, but prostituion should be made legal. It doesnt effect me if some guy wants to get blown off in BC. Drugs can effect people a whole lot more the prostitutes.

Author:	Amailer [ Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:34 pm ]
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illegal = Drugs

Author:	not_l33t [ Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:07 pm ]
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Prostitution is virtually legal. It is not like you get barred from having escorts. If you want, you can go and screw a prostitute right now, in any part of North America. So I think we should lift the ban Drugs, no way. This is one thing we should stand against. It is huge health risk, and its patients eat away at our health care budget.

Author:	Maverick [ Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:11 pm ]
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Ya prostitution only carries a fine nowadays and witht he ccash their makin its no biggie

Author:	Paul [ Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:31 pm ]
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geez, drugs, the health teachers made us watch the stupid tapes from BC, where ppl hallucinate from drugs, they see spiders coming out of their skin and scratch down to their bones... theres also this other case, where some 40 year old man injected some 15 year old girl with heroine, that girl became addicted for life and lived on the streets for 25 years, main goal being to get drugs, thats just disgusting... marijuanna leads into more serious drugs, studies have shown, it also makes blood flow be irregular to your brain, if it were up to me, I'd make it illegal too. Prositutes are ok, as long as their clean and don't spread some world wide epidemic that ends up killing 50% of the ppl in the world PS. saw that in a graphic novel lol..

Author:	jonos [ Sun Apr 04, 2004 7:31 pm ]
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drugs: absolutely no way. our healthcare system no matter what anyone says, is messed up and needs serious help, and the help that people will need with even marijuana problems in the future would just bash our healthcare system into the frickin roach covered ground. i think there should be stiffer penalities for drugs, and marijuana and it should be illegal even for medicinal use because there are other ways, or the people should have to smoke it in certain hospitals and not at home to prevent illegal selling of the drug. if you want to get high, read a fricking book, drink a lot of coffee, or get drunk, but doing it with marijuana a lot will just end up screwing you in teh future as well as our healthcare system and people paying taxes. prostitution: if it is state/province controlled. not federally controlled because the liberals would mess it up like they do a lot of things, but im not sure the conservatives would agree to it, so i shouldn't really have an opinion. if the brothels were not privately owned, then yes, becasue the provinces would be able to control it better, and make money, and keep the prostitutes cleaned. but still, if i knew of anyone using a brothel for purposes for just normal sex and not kinky shit and mass orgies with multiple people of the female persuasion, then I would say shame on you bitch, because anyuone can find sex for free somewhere - go watch jerry springer.

Author:	Homer_simpson [ Sun Apr 04, 2004 7:45 pm ]
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well there's already 2 destructive drugs that are legal(alchole,ciggaretes) for economic reasons or other... but as a pot user i dun think that it should be legalized cuz i'm happy with the way it is right now... if pot was legalized there would be sooooo many companies taking over the bussiness of production(just like ciggies and alchole), there'd be a sh\|tload of chemicals on what they'd sell people.. and i can think of thousands of more reasons why pot should not be legalized...

Author:	Maverick [ Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:18 pm ]
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Jonos your prostitution thing is just messed. I dont think the government wuld want to get into the sex trade(well maybe they do, but its bad publicity) If a guy wants some sex, and a girl wants to give it out and make a little cash on the side, who does it effect unless shes got an STD.

Author:	Dauntless [ Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:33 pm ]
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Well if you think that prostitution won't affect our healthcare...you must be joking. lol Come on, saying prostitution would be ok if all prostitutes were clean is like murder is ok if you feel like you did it for a good reason, and as long as you feel good about it.

Author:	jonos [ Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:46 pm ]
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to take a quote from a famous pimp (the ex-owner of the Mustang Ranch, mind you the quote is not exact) "what is wrong with an act between a man and a woman or a man and multiple women, if it is not hurting anyone else". if the prostitutes are clean, than how is it a burden on the healthcare system, unless maybe penix strains and over extension will cause problems, but i don't really think so. private prostitution could lead to abuse on the part of hte pimp and not treating hte whores really good, but if the governemtn did it then they would at least be well treated, or there would be a public outcry, if the outcry for no prostituion legalized is not done first.

Author:	Dauntless [ Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:49 pm ]
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It's just ridiculous to expect that given the amount of people prostitutes experience that they will not get a single disease. Once they have that disease, everyone else who uses them will get it too. STDs are common enough nowadays even in teenage girls...Expecting prostitutes to somehow be immune is not plausible.

Author:	jonos [ Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:50 pm ]
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yeah, but what i am saying may not be realistic, im saying that if it were to be legal, then that is how it hsould be... no dirty whores.

Author:	Maverick [ Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:00 pm ]
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Well the losers who pay for sex deserve the STD . j/k. Anyway heres wat this guy i know who lives in holland says where drugs and prostitution are legal "I'm from Holland and I have to say its a very safe and good country to live in. I think the crime rate in the U.S.A is much higher (partly becasue of all the drug dealers). Prostitution and drugs are legal here becasue this way we can supervise it: have a max amount of coffee shops, make sure the marijuana is of good quality (you never know what kind of stuff they put in the marijuana in the USA), you can make rules on how much marijuana one custumer can buy. The same goes for prostetution, the people who realy want to pay for sex can do it without bothering the rest of the counrty with illegal crap. The government can easily make rules on where the prostitues may work and at what times and make rules to protect the prostitues. When marijuana would be illegal all those drug addicts would have to get their drugs an other way, drug dealers would go underground and do it the dirty way (murdersetc, things that would harm the general dutch). And I personaly dont think marijuana is that bad, its not addictive (atleast not physicaly). Alcohol for example is much much worse and so are normal sigarettes. Because these things are legal we dont have any problems witth morrocan drug dealers. We do have problems with morrocons but that is a whole different story and it has nothing to do with laws or drugs or anything. And Ed i have no idea what you mean with unemploymnet rates... I think ours are a whole lot better then yours, and even if you cant get work you will still survive becasue of our social system." I think that this doesnt sound that bad. It seems to make sense

Author:	Dan [ Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:47 pm ]
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i think all durgs should be leagal or not be (as in alucahl and cigerrest too). also if they are leagal why not have the govement be the only seller of them. that way they could uses all the money they make (and it whould be billions) to fix health care. alougth i whould not uses them i think poleop should be alowed to messe over there lives if they whont to as long as they are not driving or somting that whould hurt others.

Author:	Maverick [ Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:15 pm ]
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Well i think legalizing pot should be done seeing as how the alcohol and tobacco industry is huge, and so would the pot industry if there was a legal one. Seeing as how alcohol and cigs are just as bad as pot then i see nothing wrong with it. Some of the other drugs are a little too far like coke and heroin. But with prostitution the gov't could make money off that as well, by regulating it and getting paid for it, as long as its not harming anyone else.

Author:	PaddyLong [ Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:43 pm ]
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I think y'all are missing one thing with the legalization of pot and the government getting involved and shit.... if the government fucks it up too much (cost too much, shitty shit, etc) everyone is just gonna keep doing it illegally any way but personally, I think it should be legalized, because we should be able to do to our bodies what we want... especially when it's a natural plant you're talking about, not some manufactured or treated whatever. a couple points on how stupid it is that alcohol is legalized and pot isn't... how many fatal accidents do you hear about from a stoned person driving? how many people have you seen hospitalized from alcohol compared to hospitalized from weed? (including from things you might do while stoned or drunk, not just the drug itself) how many stupid, regretable things have you said when you're drunk compared to when you're stoned? ever vomitted or had a hang over from smoking dope? (it's very difficult to smoke so much that you puke... you'd probably be too baked to want to smoke any more before that point any way .. and I'll tell you, you aren't gonna get a hang over from getting high, probly just get real hungry then tired ) ever become violent when you were high? probably not, you'd more likely get mad at someone and be like "man I'm too stoned and lazy to get up and hit you" the bottom line is that alcohol makes people lose control of their body and unable to function properly, can put you in a violent mood for no real reason, can make you sick and leave you with nasty hang overs. pot... puts you in a good mood, takes away some functionality, but different functionality than alcohol (makes you lazy/tired). pot is very difficult to od on and doesn't leave you feeling sick the next day. and you most likely aren't going to crash your car when you're high (you're more focused and some people tend to drive slower)... oh yeah, pot also makes you more creative as for prostetution I don't give a fuck, I'm not buying a hooker whether it's legal or not P.S. 600th post

Author:	Maverick [ Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:40 pm ]
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Heh, congrats Ya alcohol can make people violent like my one friend on fridau not just start punchin people and shitfor no reason. Most of the time alcohol makes people frisky and flirty in my experiance. But then theres the heavy drinker low lifes who beat there wives and drive drunk.

Author:	Paul [ Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:25 pm ]
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Fact: 80% of the people who commited sexual assault was under the influence of drugs/alchohol

Author:	PaddyLong [ Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:11 pm ]
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most likely alcohol or a different drug... something like E that actually does make you more "frisky" but E is pretty sketchy any way because it's manufactured, so you can't ever be 100% sure what's in it unless of course you made it yourself or watched the person make it as for people being more frisky when they're drunk... BEER GOGGLES!! hahahahahaahahahaha just appear to be more options when you're drunk

Author:	jonos [ Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:27 pm ]
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the thing about marijuana is that when/if a pot smoker finally get to the point that they realize that being stoned legally all the time is not the best thing for productivity in the work place, ensuring your kids are growing up with a half-decent set of morals, etc, then they will want the government to pay for their rehabilitation, and most likely they will sue the government for legalizing marijuana and transforming them into a sad and sorry person, like those people who smoke cigarattes are doing (ok this is just a small percentage, but...), and also the effects of pot are a lot worse than smoking (ask homer), so this will put a strain on our already screwed healthcare system. if health care became a mix between private and public, then maybe yes, as long as im personally not funding the pot head who needs help. also, the majority of the population is not smoking pot, so why not just keep it illegal and let the people who want to smoke it get it in their own way.

Author:	Maverick [ Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:48 pm ]
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Well panda the girls i was with were hot before i was drunk and even hotter after! Wat im thinkin is that legalizing pot may take all the fun out of smoking it for sum people. Many people do things for the exhilaration of doing it, but if its legal the who that fook cares.

Author:	jonos [ Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:58 pm ]
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sorry to spam , but i have to tell maverick this lest he believe im a four sided polygong with equal sides and equal angles, i dont' drink because alcoholism runs in my family on both sides, i have great uncles, unlces, greate aunts, aunts, grandparents who are alcoholics and its not funny to know about. baileys tastes awesome though.

Author:	Maverick [ Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:35 pm ]
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Bacardi

Author:	jonos [ Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:48 pm ]
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rum tastes like shite (is that even rum ). i hate the taste of almost every form of alcohol.

Author:	Maverick [ Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:55 pm ]
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Well its an aquired taste, like beer. But ya it is rum.

Author:	Paul [ Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:55 pm ]
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woot! go rice wine!!

Author:	jonos [ Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:57 pm ]
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and whisky!!! my dad gives me a glass when i have a cold (a realy small glass)

Author:	Maverick [ Tue Apr 06, 2004 9:38 pm ]
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small glass my ass.

Author:	jonos [ Tue Apr 06, 2004 9:45 pm ]
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no im serious, he's really serious about stuff like that

Author:	Catalyst [ Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:56 pm ]
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alcohol is fun

Author:	PaddyLong [ Tue Apr 06, 2004 11:27 pm ]
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the long term effects from cigs are far far worse than pot... you don't get cancer and shit from smoking pot and a question to those who are all anti-weed how many of you have actually tried it before? Catalyst... it sure is

Author:	jonos [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 5:54 am ]
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are you sure about the long term effects of cigarettes being worse than pot? im surprised so many people here are so eager to abuse their bodies.

Author:	jonos [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:23 am ]
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hey just htought id add this: being up for over 14 hours straight is like being drunk (not sure this is true, but i heard this, and i do notice that my decision making ability is questionalbe when i stay up too late (i usually wreak it on the spam sectiono))

Author:	Maverick [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:14 pm ]
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lol thats the funniest thing ive ever read. Man im up like at least 15 or 16 hours a day. 8am-12pm on weekdays. and if this was what being drunk was like i wuld never drink. When your drunk you feel happy and loosened up until you get to the point of barfing/passing out which is not fun. But when you get drink and dont pass out, its the best night of your life. Hahha 14 hours, good one jonos

Author:	Maverick [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:26 pm ]
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jonos wrote: im surprised so many people here are so eager to abuse their bodies. Man, its our teenage years. This is the best years of our lives we might as well enjoy then occasionally. But i agree some people enjoy too much, like the crack whoores always standing in front of my locker at school

Author:	papatya [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:11 pm ]
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it becomes pathetic when the only form of happiness/fun comes in a drug form. i mean there are better things to do with your time, natural highs are better, and cheaper than you can get in substance form.

Author:	Paul [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:13 pm ]
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yes yes, Im sure you enjoy those, how do you phrase it "crack whores". oh yes I forgot to mention tea... hehe. My whole extended family in china smokes and drinks tea

Author:	the_short1 [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:23 pm ]
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^ i like ur sig pic... FEAR ME!! poke..... hehehe u should have the gun emotes afta that.. . Prostitution...: hjmmm..... keep it like it is.... except provide more clenics to clean girls up and give them real jobs.... Pot: I am originaly from BC.... <<<interpret that as u may... . no gov controlled pot..... keep BC as pot capital.... but... making it 100% legal would make it no fun.... (it stoped being fun after i was easily able to get it myself....norkam... hahah... the dealers.... funny stuff..) having it decriminalized is PERFECT!!!!!!!! i wish cretien was able to do that... but he FAILED!...... only getting a fine is good... gives govt money... yet still 'exzilerating'... dealers get stiffer penalty.... pot is not bad for you at ALL!!! its social effects mite harm u if u like give up on school or something... ... larger more enforced fines for teenagers smoking cigs would be better... dam CANCER! and it ruins ur life... u spend enough money on cigs by the time ur 40 to buy a fricking house!!! a houSE!!!!!!!,.... now drunk drivers.. BAD!!! the awareness is out there..... ENFORCE IT MORE!!!! not just on newyears... have more road checks.... Question: Would it be cool if i made a 'Whats Ur Fav Drink Poll??? NOTE: Please Dont Steal Idea... !!!!!!!! ps: mines WISKEY!!!!! yea... Crown Royal and 5 star all the way..!!!!

Author:	the_short1 [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:29 pm ]
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i will never in my life touch my lips to a ciggerate... i would slit my own throught first.... ive seen it ruin lives...finnacialy and health wise... also i would not in my life do anything harder then Dope.... all other drugs are STUPID!!! and whoever uses them should die hehehehhe 12 hours.... jonos jonos jonos... everyone in my gr.7 classs though i was a stoner (even though i didn;t do it...) cuz i almost always came to school with red eye and stuff.... reason why??? cuz... everysecond night by dad went to his GF's house to get laid and he stayed over the nite.... PARTY AT MY HOUSE!!!... so i catered to the ppl... getting stuff for them.. drinking (not much)... but i didn;lt do drugs.... also then i would stay up late so i could play SC and dl mp3's (internet was free after 12..).... so i got 5 hours or lesss.... gr.7.... yea... lots of all nighters... anyways....... now days... 7:00am-(12:00-1:00)pm much later on weekends.....

Author:	Paul [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 5:09 pm ]
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lol BC, every drug/steroid story or video shown in my school seems to either involve BC or Vancouver (mostly chinatown). Its the fault of the Vancouver Government for attracting all druggies in North America to their legal drug use facilities. They failed horribly at trying to keep them off the streets...

Author:	jonos [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:07 pm ]
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actually pot is bad for you, its not the harmless herb many people feel it is. and what yo umay think is all natural actually could contain a lot of shit like basil and leaves and stuff like that.

Author:	Paul [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:10 pm ]
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hey you know, marijuanna is abundant in china, its just noone smokes it, the poor kids make strong ropes out of it and sells them to stores that buy ropes.

Author:	jonos [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:13 pm ]
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thats cause the "communists" wouldn't like that or something.

Author:	Paul [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:16 pm ]
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no communists smoke opium.

Author:	jonos [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:25 pm ]
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thats crazy. maybe the peasants don't believe in smoking marijuiana, or maybe htey don't know its effects.

Author:	Maverick [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:41 pm ]
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papatya wrote: it becomes pathetic when the only form of happiness/fun comes in a drug form. i mean there are better things to do with your time, natural highs are better, and cheaper than you can get in substance form. Natural high wats that? sex? lol jokin or am i?

Author:	PaddyLong [ Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:55 am ]
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jonos... I'm guessing you've never actually tried smoking pot? if not then please fuck off. thanks, have a nice night.

Author:	jonos [ Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:24 am ]
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Whether I have smoked marijuana is not the issue. You cannot justify telling me to fuck off just because of my opinion and my lack of smoking pot. I haven't smoked pot for fear of addiction and psychological reasons. I have the right to have an opinion on an illegal substance, so please don't act like an idiot. Even if I had smoked marijuana, I'm sure I would still have the same opinion about it. Think what society would be like if everybody smoked marijuana, and it wouldn't be good regardless of your thoughts on it. You expressed an opinion of prostitution in "I don't give a fuck". Have you ever bought a hooker or have you ever been a hooker? I'm sure many people who have replied to this haven't smoked pot, and this thread shouldn't be reserved to pot heads (or occasional pot smokers). Edit: This is pissing me off. I'm finding it hard to accept that there are people here who think that discussion of marijuana is reserved for those who have smoked it. Would those people then agree that discussing abortion is for those who have had an abortion? Or the discussion of politics for only those who are politicians? Pissing me off.

Author:	PaddyLong [ Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:35 am ]
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how can you have such a strong opinion against something you really know nothing about? personally... I think if we lived in a society where everyone smoked pot, everyone would be a lot kinder and open minded... but it's too late for a nice world for mankind... we blew that one a long long time ago

Author:	jonos [ Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:13 am ]
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I know enough about marijuana. Having knowledge of something does not necessarily mean that I have to have experienced it. Everyone may be a lot nicer if everyone was stoned indefinitely, but how would our factories or offices function, or how would we learn, or how would we be able to drive cars safely. If drugs were readily made available to us, our society could very well evolve into that society depicted in Brave New World, and I'm many of us don't want that.

Author:	PaddyLong [ Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:26 pm ]
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if you ask me, we'd be a lot better off without a lot of the advancements we've made in science and technology .. a simple way of life

Author:	Maverick [ Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:58 pm ]
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A society where everyone smoked pot? The earth wuld be a hot box I am an occasional pot smoker and it reall doesnt effect me except for the few hours while im stoned. Jonos its really not that bad if your not addicted and only do it sumtimes.

Author:	jonos [ Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:59 pm ]
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Of course we'd be better off, but now that we have it we just can't put it all in a time capsule, bury it, and then go on living like neanderthals. We need technology for when the aliens come and attack us.

Author:	Dauntless [ Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:32 pm ]
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Paddy, have you even read my philosphy? lol..I already said that we'd be better as cavemen. But saying that if everyone smoked pot, it would be better, thats just silly.. I bet racists say that about worlds where theres only one race, just to give you an extreme example.

Author:	templest [ Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:46 pm ]
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I have no problem with prostitution. Although I personally would not pay for a hummer. But you have to see it as a form of descrimination when a woman isn't allowed to sell her own body for the use which she obviously approves of. Unless that woman isn't get beat by a pimp for not realling in enough cash. There's no problem to it. What's wrong with a woman selling her body? If she has the looks, the skill/talent, and the ability to do so, let her do it. Why must society feel so offended and worried about prostitution? It's not like half of the people running the country haven't ordered one all ready. It's an honest job, and they would be doing their part in the economy. As well, if you don't agree with the above, you can kiss me @$$. Just kidding... but look at it thisa way: You're never going to get rid of prostitution, so why not make it legal so as to be able to have some control over the industry and: a) set safer guidlines (ie: minimum age required to sell your body) b) they would pay taxes on all the cash they make, and therefor help the country in that way, if not all the other ways they would is enough already. c) get rid of the pimps. d) create a better working environment. e) safer for the clients. ie: you would have to pass a government health test in order to be a prostitute and therefor clients would be guaranteed being safe from STD's. And vice-versa, clients could have a test themselves to make sure the actual girls don't get deseases themselves. I respect prostitutes. If a woman has the energy to suck 60 cocks a day to put food on the table and give their kids some financial stability, that takes balls (figure of speech). If I had a learning disability or just don't have the intelect to get any other job, and I looked like a calvin klein model, I wouldn't mind whoring myself for some $$$. That's just me.

Author:	the_short1 [ Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:35 pm ]
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dam straight templest... way to say it... 100% agree with your views,,,, except im not shure the hookers would pay the taxes,,,

Author:	jonos [ Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:39 pm ]
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Yeah, they'd be like carpenters and pawn shops, but if they worked in government owned brothels they would be forced to... Unless they did work on the side.

Author:	templest [ Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:28 pm ]
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But that would be expected. Everyone cheats on their taxes at some point. What was that whole sponsorship scandal again? If that much cash was spent on "National Unity". Id be making out with someone from ottawa right now.

Author:	the_short1 [ Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:41 pm ]
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what exactly is ur avatyar templest??? anways... yea.... that sponsership deal... ahah.... the liberals got fooked..... (probaly..) but i dont watch the politics that much... pretty boring..

Author:	templest [ Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:52 pm ]
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It's a "Space Angel". Some random, cool looking pic from DeviantArt [deviantart.com]

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