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[Possibility of harmful programs]
Author:  Tony [ Wed Jan 22, 2003 5:50 pm ]
Post subject:  [Possibility of harmful programs]
I'd like to bring your attention to the fact that .exe files might host viroses so it is recommended to scan the programs before running it.

If any viroses are to be found, please let me or Dan know about it ASAP.

Also it is known that turing has enough system access to delete files or to make garbage ones (creates random files that take up space). Be adviced of what you download.

You don't have to submit any source code and can just upload your files. We just ask not to add any harmful code. If such code is found, let us know ASAP.

The user submiting harmful code will be banned... and if we're really pissed, we gonna track you down and hack your computer Twisted Evil so please, no harmful programs.
Author:  Dauntless [ Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Hack the violators!
I should incur your wrath on a useless computer under a different name so the compsci world could revel in the story of how you totally trashed my Pentium 133 mhz snail mobile. Could you do cool things like make the CD tray go in and out and crazy sh*t like that? Cuz it might be worth it then....I'll tell you if I'm going to do it, so you don't destroy this comp if someone does upload viruses...
(Btw, this comp is a 355 mhz, not much faster...)

Also, wouldn't it be nice if everyone chipped in like 2 bucks, that way I could get a new computer? That would be nice.

Asok = Martin.
Author:  Andy [ Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:10 pm ]
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actually derek, it is possible... if you go to my computer, and right click your cd rom, you can select eject, and it'll open
Author:  Dauntless [ Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Poltergeist
I know that, I'm talking like....
I'll be sitting at the comp, and it goes all poltergeist on me, and the CD tray opens and closes repeatedly, and stuff like taht, you know, kick my dog and eat my babies at the same time, crazy hacker stuff.
Author:  Andy [ Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:14 pm ]
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just remote control the guy's comp, get the program off school
Author:  ArchAngel16 [ Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Malicious Programs
Hey I've been coming here for some time and ya I'm happy to say nobody has posted any malicious code that I've seen. This site has given me TONS of ideas for school stuff so THANK YOU!
Author:  Tony [ Tue Dec 16, 2003 11:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Malicious Programs
ArchAngel16 wrote:
THANK YOU!

I'm glad you found the site helpful Very Happy
Author:  icemaster [ Sat Jan 17, 2004 6:26 pm ]
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o yea btw i would like to say that any files that i submit will not harm your computer guaranteed Very Happy 8) 8) 8)
and hey
how about you beta test my chat program in the forum chat client advanced.....
Author:  shorthair [ Sat Jan 17, 2004 6:28 pm ]
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This thread is not 2 promote your programs , that is what spam is for ........ now that turing 5 is here your program is almost obselite and not file tranfering is alot easier, not to flame , but you guys should consider updating it , its not as great as you guys try to make it out to be.
Author:  white_dragon [ Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:57 pm ]
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why do ppl make programs like tat. ur just plain stupid
Author:  Cervantes [ Sat Jan 31, 2004 10:47 am ]
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shorthair says this isn't to promote programs... shorthair goes and promotes "Turing 5"

white_dragon, go check out the thread in general discussion called "Try 2 hack"

http://scifi.pages.at/hackits

hacking IS fun! but you shouldn't hack other people's boxes. (period)

However, posting programs that are harmful to other ppl's boxes is stupid, agreed.
Author:  Tony [ Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:30 pm ]
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i'd have to agree... It is one thing to play a little prank such as sticking a textfile "tony was here" into statup folder Laughing

it is compleatly another to just brudaly rape someone's HDD, flooding it with junk in places noone would look Rolling Eyes
Author:  Viper [ Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:51 pm ]
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it would be nice if there was a virius program that could catch and kill all virisus
Author:  MiX-MaztA-M8riX [ Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:48 am ]
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maybe... if you knew the .exe name, like "Apopup.exe" or sumthing, than delete that maybe....
Author:  Andy [ Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:22 am ]
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well there are.. some of the worms delete all the other viruses before doing damage to your comp.. its kinda like him sticking a pwnd sticker on ur box
Author:  barneyoncrack [ Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:23 pm ]
Post subject:  I have a program somewhere that opens up a CD-ROM!
I made a program called cd-tray opener. you just click on it then a window pops up and you press 2 buttons one either to open the Cd-Rom or to close it. If you want it, then I can send you...
Wink
No harmful code there... Exclamation
Author:  DIIST [ Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I have a program somewhere that opens up a CD-ROM!
barneyoncrack wrote:
I made a program called cd-tray opener. you just click on it then a window pops up and you press 2 buttons one either to open the Cd-Rom or to close it.

Is that even possible in Turing? Confused
Author:  [Gandalf] [ Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:51 pm ]
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I'm sure using the system() method you might be able to do something like that...
Author:  do_pete [ Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:54 pm ]
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I believe there is a program, eject.exe or something like that, in the WINDOWS folder that opens the CD drive
Author:  do_pete [ Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:57 pm ]
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I found it. On my computer it's in C:/SYSINFO/CDOPEN.exe
Author:  codemage [ Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:15 pm ]
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...and it wasn't written by barneyoncrack. Wink
Author:  Unisyst [ Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:16 pm ]
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Viper wrote:
it would be nice if there was a virius program that could catch and kill all virisus


You mean an antivirus program?

Online virus scanner
Author:  [Gandalf] [ Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:17 pm ]
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Unisyst wrote:
Viper wrote:
it would be nice if there was a virius program that could catch and kill all virisus


You mean an antivirus program?

Online virus scanner

No. All viruses.
Author:  Unisyst [ Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:22 pm ]
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That's sort of the point of a Virus Scanner. It updates for all new viruses.
Author:  [Gandalf] [ Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:27 pm ]
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I'm afraid you're sadly mistaken. A virus scanner only updates for and detects the most widely spread viruses that have been detected. This definately does not cover everything.
Author:  Unisyst [ Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:38 pm ]
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A virus scanner detects malicious code. If there is something dangerous is found, it is updated. This does not include exploits, however. If it is not dangerous it's not much of a 'virus'.
Author:  md [ Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:11 pm ]
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Virus scanners only detect the most common viruses; there are many many viruses which are not as wide spread which will not be detected; as well as many old viruses that are no longer checked for (by old I mean 10+ years old.
Author:  codemage [ Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:20 pm ]
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A lot of viruses are caught by checking for generic virus schemes. Many older viruses are nabbed by these schemes, so they don't need to be checked for individually.

Small-scale viruses (ie if you made one just to distrbute to 'friends') are too localized to catch.
Author:  MysticVegeta [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:36 pm ]
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If they are too localized to get caught, chances are they arent that harmful Wink
Author:  md [ Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:06 am ]
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Not nessessarily; a slow spreading virus could easily pass under the radar. At least for a while. The thing is that most virii these days are designed to spread as fast as possible, which makes them rather obvious. These are clearly not very well designed virii. A good virus would be slow and not affect system performance at all. Afterall if your virus is detected and deleted it can no longer work. If it goes unoticed for a year and then does whatever you want it's muc hmore effective.
Author:  codemage [ Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:58 am ]
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Back in the day, there were all sorts of sleeper viruses that did just that. Most of them would trigger on a certain date, like Halloween, or every Friday the 13th. Much more effective to spread through the ranks & then strike in a coordinated fashion, ninja-style.

Hardly any viruses are date-sensitive any more. They start their obvious corruption the moment they enter the system, pirate-style.
Author:  md [ Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:57 pm ]
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Virii would be the one place where ninjas do indeed beat pirates. Unless they are sneaky pirates.
Author:  Dan [ Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:55 pm ]
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To Codemage: I whould blame that in the increase of script kiddys that write up viruses in VB with litte work or thought. Hell there are scripts out there that will make a virus for you and put your name in it, lol.

I rember the days where peoleop where toald in the newspaper to turn there comps off on firday the 13th so there computer whould not been infected. Tho i was like 7 at the time.

It's probly for the best that the level of quality of virues writener has goen down or it could just be that the peoleop who know what they are doing just do not realses them past there zoo (network for testing a virues that is not lineked to a WAN or the public).
Author:  Mr. Gruntsworthy [ Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:10 pm ]
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I've tried many different things to finally rid my computer of all the spyware and invalid registry key values, but the stuff i have on my computer (first McAffee, then Norton) does not detect this stuff. Only free scans from anti-spyware programs and online scans seem to pick up on this stuff in my system.

Could someone please point me to a free (that means FREE, for the whole version, not some crappy scan-then-pay-for-removal version) antivirus/antispyware program that i can download? And note that i am not asking for something pirated, there has to be a free antivirus out there that works.
Author:  NikG [ Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:12 am ]
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I've been using AVG Anti-Virus Free for a long time and it's awesome!
http://free.grisoft.com

That site also has AVG Anti-Spyware Free, but I haven't tried that.
Author:  Mr. Gruntsworthy [ Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:41 pm ]
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okay, now will it detect everything it should AND get rid of it?
im tired of all these supposed things that are free, only to say you have to upgrade for it to remove the stuff from your computer
Author:  NikG [ Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:31 pm ]
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It should detect and remove everything.
There are updates for it almost daily, so I'm sure it's up-to-date in terms of the latest viruses and stuff.

That site also shows what's included in the retail version, so why don't you read that? From my use of it, it works very well.

On a related note, the other virus scanners you've used probably can't detect the viruses/spyware because they have the ability to hide from installed anti-virus progs (or so I've been told). That means that if you install avg, it'll work. But if you allow yourself to get infected again (by going to warez sites for example), avg may stop working too.

My point is it's YOU who has to be careful, because no program is absolutely perfect.
Author:  Mr. Gruntsworthy [ Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:38 pm ]
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i originally got infected from a Trojan masquerading as a BitTorrent file. anyways, i installed Norton while it was already on my comptuer, but ill try AVG. Thanks for the link.
Author:  wtd [ Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:25 pm ]
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Note: Norton and McAffee software is pretty much malware. Unfortunately, AVG also has a tendency to occasionally eat 100% CPU on my Windows system.

Currently having no problems with Avast.
Author:  [Gandalf] [ Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:28 pm ]
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wtd wrote:
Unfortunately, AVG also has a tendency to occasionally eat 100% CPU on my Windows system.

Currently having no problems with Avast.

Really? Personally I've noted the exact opposite, Avast eats up a whole lot of RAM and CPU power, while AVG runs quietly with a mere 4700K memory usage. Surprised

Guess you'll have to try 'em out yourself, and judge based on which works on your computer.
Author:  wtd [ Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:38 pm ]
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AVG runs fine about 99% of the time. And then every once in awhile... BOOM! Out of nowhere CPU usage spikes and it takes me ten minutes just to get to the Task Manager.
Author:  Mr. Gruntsworthy [ Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:16 pm ]
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it was like that constantly with Norton... which for some reason wont let me completely uninstall. AVG isn't doing what i need it to either... but at least it's not eating up my processing power.
Author:  wtd [ Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:19 pm ]
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Mr. Gruntsworthy wrote:
it was like that constantly with Norton... which for some reason wont let me completely uninstall.


Yes, lots of people have this problem with Norton and McAfee products. It's why no savvy individual can, with clear conscience, suggest those products.
Author:  Mr. Gruntsworthy [ Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:21 pm ]
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well.... could i enlist your help in helping me completely get rid of Norton? I had to open up msconfig to stop the firewall from booting up... Norton also seems to scan my system out of nowhere, completely eating up my computer. I can't even delete the processes.... Norton is gay.
Author:  wtd [ Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:38 pm ]
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Most such people I've encountered with these problems have resorted to formatting and reinstalling.
Author:  Mr. Gruntsworthy [ Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:02 am ]
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well, i used msconfig to stop Norton from coming up. Short of reinstalling like you said i think this is pretty much all i can do. but technically, Norton really is Malware
Author:  md [ Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:12 pm ]
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As much as I pitty you for running windows and it's associated craptacular anti-virus, this is not the thread to be discussing it. This thread is a warning about the possibility of someone posting a virus (*.exe) and claiming it is their program.

There are plenty of other windows related problem threads that anti-virus has and can continue to be discussed in.
Author:  Mr. Gruntsworthy [ Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:01 pm ]
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what kind of OS are you running? If i could take a guess, id say you were running a Mac.

as far as Turing goes, it can't be used to create a virus, can it? ( i know people will post viruses regardless of what computer programming language it is) but is it technically possible to write a virus with turing?
Author:  md [ Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:24 pm ]
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Mr. Gruntsworthy wrote:
what kind of OS are you running? If i could take a guess, id say you were running a Mac.

as far as Turing goes, it can't be used to create a virus, can it? ( i know people will post viruses regardless of what computer programming language it is) but is it technically possible to write a virus with turing?


Guess again, and yes. But since people have been known to post zipped exes there realy is no way of telling what was used to write the code; or even if they wrote it themselves. Even source code though can hide malicious code; obfuscation is an art that is rather well known and highly developed.
Author:  Mr. Gruntsworthy [ Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:09 am ]
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Okay, my final guess is that you're running on Linux.

What programming language is the majority of computer viruses written in?
Author:  Prince Pwn [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:14 pm ]
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For those who complain about Windows and it's insecurity: Wait a few months and get Vista, then turn on all the enhanced security features. But be warned, having too much security will drive you crazy. I ran the beta and it kept fading the screen and asked "Are you sure" when you went to modify a file (eg:rename,delete,move). I disabled that in the settings.

I'm pretty sure you can still File.Delete on Vista and the warning wont pop up though.
Author:  evildaddy911 [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:48 am ]
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[quote="it is compleatly another to just brudaly rape someone's HDD, flooding it with junk in places noone would look Rolling Eyes[/quote]
yeah, but i do it to my brother all the time Blowing up
Author:  TRUEAnonymous [ Tue May 01, 2012 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:  RE:[Possibility of harmful programs]
I agree to the post and just i case i have an antivirus protecting me
Author:  storm2713687 [ Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RE:[Possibility of harmful programs]
When I do get better and can make good programs, I'm probably just going to post the source Razz

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